Posted on 06/19/2009 3:54:08 PM PDT by alpha-8-25-02
Let’s not also forget how Henry VIII brought Huguenots to England in order to destroy the monasteries and hundreds of years worth of philosophical and theological works and priceless treasures because he knew no Englishman would willingly destroy his own heritage.
A BLESSED 500 YEAR CELEBRATION OF JOHN CALVIN’S BIRTH!
/Also remember how the pope had the knights executed. And how the church was selling crap to peasants and telling them the crap would guarantee them salvation.
I know your screen name is likely a reference to the sword of the Marines, but it’s also suitable, because your post reflects a philosophical version of the Mameluke’s barbarity.
You’re in for a real treat with that one.
I’m not going to get into a Catholic-vs-Protestant because it just devolves into silliness. “Your atrocity was worse than mine!” Blah blah blah. This stuff was hundreds of years ago in old Europe. We’re Americans and should be above that.
BTW, although the Huguenot experience in France certainly inspired the first three amendments, it also served to warn future generations that the entirity of the Bill of Rights is vital to the rights and privileges of any free people.
My Huguenot ancestors, the Sicards, escaped from La Rochelle to Ehgland and to the US in the 1680s...
About the time of the Revocation of the Edict of Nantes...
They smuggled out their precious Bible by baking it into a loaf of bread...
They lived in NYC and then founded New Rochelle, NY...
On the monument in Hudson Park of the 151 Huguenot names...
http://www.chadeayne.com/images/monument_names.jpg
Badeau, Du Bois, Mabille, Sicard,
are my direct ancestors..
Of the Walloons, Jesse De Forest is also my ancestor
His descendent, Simon De Forest, of Albany, NY, was a LOyalist killed in the American Revolution...
His daughter, Hannah (Ann) De Forest, born in Albany, NY married Stephen Secord (Sicard) born in New Rochelle, NY
Stephen’s mother was Madelaine Badeau, another Huguenot family..
My Huguenot forebears have been a source of inspiration and encouragement to me for most of my life..
Wow! I am impressed that you know for sure about the link to your Huguenot ancestors. I have heard that one of mine may have been from the Huguenots, but haven’t been able to link it.
I too am a Hutuenot and have a Huguenot cross which I find to be the most beautiful of all crosses.
Not a bad read
From my library:
“The Huguenots: their Settlements, Churches and Industries in England and Ireland.”
by Samuel Smiles
Genealogical Publishing Co, Inc.
Baltimore 1972
Originally published
New York 1868
BX9458.G7S5 1972
ISBN 0-8063—497-9
Welcome to FR!
Good post.
It may shock and startle some but protestantism always coincided with violence when it was implemented by the protestants. Those parts are rarely mentioned.
Protestantism arose with the support of State and immediately, where it began, siezed lands, plundered churches and monestaries, and persecuted Catholics.
This is a fact of historical record whether one believes protestants were right or wrong.
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“Official” Huguenots arrived here by about 1787 before the promulgation of the Edict of Toleration on 28 November 1787.
Louis XVI said that any descendant of Huguenots could return to France, worship how they pleased and be full French citizens...
Few took him up on his offer...
Without the Huguenot army, Louis was alone...
and Madame Guillotine was sharp...
http://www.huguenot.netnation.com/ancestor/default.htm
Thank you!
This is not the first time that a French King and a Pope chose to persecute a group.
King Philip “the Fair” and Pope Clement V did something similar in France beginning on Friday October 13, 1307. There are those who still remember those outrages.
How long would it have taken and what would the outcome have been to colonize the U.S. had it not been for religious persecution in Europe?
Are those stains the reason our founders cautioned against any involvement (tangling alliances) with Europe?
Is that still good advice?
The Cross of Languedoc ???
Yes it is...
The Huguenot Cross
History
The Cross shown here which has been adopted as the insignia of The National Huguenot Society is both beautiful and symbolic. It is not, however, exclusive to the Society. It is being used more and more throughout the world as a sign among the descendants of the Huguenots. Many designs of the Cross have been worn by Huguenots throughout the years. This particular design was discovered by the Reverend Andrew Mailhet in the province of Languedoc, France, and dates from at least the eighteenth century. It has, therefore, become known as the Cross of Languedoc.
It is impossible to know exactly when the Huguenots adopted the Huguenot Cross as a symbol and confirmation of their faith. However, it is believed to have been a sign of recognition among the French Protestants as early as the 17th century. It was patterned after the Order of the Holy Spirit insignia worn by Henry IV of Navarre, who issued the Edict of Nantes in 1598 to protect Protestant freedoms. The Huguenot Society of South Africa provides the following information as to its history:
“The Huguenot cross was designed and first manufactured by a certain Mystre of Nîmes in 1688. It has as its predecessor the badge of the Hospitaler Knights of St John of Jerusalem also known as the Knights of Malta, a religious and Crusader order founded in Jerusalem in the 7th century AD. In 1308 they occupied the island of Rhodes after the collapse of the Crusader states, and in 1530 formed the order of the Knights of Malta after Rhodes was surrendered to the Ottoman Turks. They lived for 4 centuries on the island of Malta, hence the name Maltese Cross for the central part. (The Maltese Cross is generally associated with fire and is the symbol of protection of fire fighters in many countries).”
“Other predecessors of the Huguenot Cross include the so-called Languedoc Cross, and the order decoration of the Order of the Holy Spirit which Henry III established on December 31st, 1578.”
Significance and Meaning
The gold Cross of Languedoc, with the official ribbon of the Society which is white, edged with stripes of French blue and gold has become the official insignia of The National Huguenot Society worn by members.
The Cross of Languedoc consists of four elements:
The insignia consists of an open four-petal Lily of France — reminiscent of the Mother Country of France — in which each petal radiates outward in the shape of a “V” to form a Maltese Cross.
The four petals signify the Four Gospels. Each petal, or arm, has at its outside periphery two rounded points at the corners. These rounded points are regarded as signifying the Eight Beatitudes.
The four petals are joined together by four fleur-de-lis, also reminiscent of the Mother Country of France. Each fleur-de-lis has has three petals. The twelve petals of the four fleur-de-lis signify the Twelve Apostles.
An open space in the shape of heart is formed between each fleur-de-lis and the arms of the two petals with which it is joined. This shape — a symbol of loyalty — suggests the seal of the great French Reformer, John Calvin.
A descending dove pendant representing the Saint Esprit or “Sainted Spirit” — the guide and counselor of the Church — is suspended from a ring of gold attached to the lower central petal.
http://www.huguenot.netnation.com/general/cross.htm
What was your family name ???
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