Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Small university, founded on Catholic tradition, unleashes against ND critics (Lib Catholic Alert!)
cna ^ | May 18, 2009

Posted on 05/18/2009 11:31:36 AM PDT by NYer

Washington D.C., May 18, 2009 / 07:30 am (CNA).- Patricia McGuire, President of Trinity University in Washington D.C., accused pro-lifers protesting Obama's speech at Notre Dame of being "Catholic vigilantes" that are turning back the clock to pre-Vatican II times, when supposedly the Church had no respect for academic freedom.

Speaking on Trinity's campus in Northeast Washington, McGuire devoted almost all of her speech to the controversy surrounding the decision of Fr. John Jenkins, President of Notre Dame, to honor President Barack Obama despite having the strongest pro-abortion record of any previous President.

"A half-century of progress for Catholic higher education is at risk of slipping back into those insular, parochial pre-Vatican II days," when, according to McGuire, "academic freedom was not valued within the Catholic Church."

"The real scandal at Notre Dame today is not that the president of the United States is speaking at commencement," McGuire said. "The real scandal is the misappropriation of sacred teachings for political ends. The real scandal is the spectacle of ostensibly Catholic mobs camping out at Notre Dame for the specific purpose of disrupting the commencement address of the nation's first African American president."

"This ugly spectacle -McGuire continued- is an embarrassment to all Catholics. The face that Catholicism shows to our new president should be one marked with the sign of peace, not distorted in the snarl of hatred."

McGuire continued, "The religious vigilantism apparent in the Notre Dame controversy arises from organizations that have no official standing with the church, but who are successful in gaining media coverage as if they were speaking for Catholicism. . . . They have established themselves as uber-guardians of a belief system we can hardly recognize. Theirs is a narrow faith devoted almost exclusively to one issue. They defend the rights of the unborn but have no charity toward the living. They mock social justice as a liberal mythology."

This is not the first time McGuire has taken a stand against pro-life Catholics and has said to be "proud of having a plaque hanging in my office that says: 'Well Behaved Women Don't Make History'."

After the nomination of Trinity alumna Kathleen Sebelius as Secretary of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, McGuire was requested by several alumni to distance the university from Sebelius' strongly pro-abortion views.

McGuire responded in her blog saying that "the tactics of vilification, condemnation and excommunication will only serve to distance politicians from any faith expression, and to make the general electorate even more wary of any candidate who is Catholic. We need to return this discussion to the high moral ground of teaching persuasively, not lobbing hate mail."

"Trinity," she continued, "is, indeed, proud of the achievements of Nancy Pelosi and Kathleen Sebelius (both alumni at Trinity.) Our pride in their achievements in reaching some of the highest public offices in our nation's history does not mean that we agree with all of their political positions. We obviously disagree on the matter of abortion policy where we affirm the Church's teachings. But there are many other policy positions where their political decisions and Church teachings align quite well."

Trinity University was originally founded in 1897 as "Trinity College" by the Sisters of Notre Dame de Namur.

Currently, Trinity enrolls some 1,700 students in degree programs.


TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholic; trinity; university

1 posted on 05/18/2009 11:31:36 AM PDT by NYer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...

President Patricia McGuire - Trinity University
2 posted on 05/18/2009 11:32:58 AM PDT by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer
Sisters of Notre Dame de Namur.

A formerly good order that went completely bonkers. Proud of Pelosi and Sebelius - words fail me.

3 posted on 05/18/2009 11:33:25 AM PDT by livius
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

Guttony is a deadly sin.


4 posted on 05/18/2009 11:33:49 AM PDT by frogjerk (C-NJ)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

Dyke?


5 posted on 05/18/2009 11:35:54 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: NYer

Gack!

So ‘Academic Freedom,” is the new name for immorality.


6 posted on 05/18/2009 11:38:18 AM PDT by TFMcGuire (Life is tough. It is even tougher if you are stupid--John Wayne)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: NYer

OMG! She’s a LESBIAN...CLEARLY!!


7 posted on 05/18/2009 11:38:19 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: NYer

Is Trinity Latin for three chins?


8 posted on 05/18/2009 11:39:33 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: NYer

Oh, tell me she’s not a Patrick!


9 posted on 05/18/2009 11:41:21 AM PDT by b4its2late (There is always one more imbecile than you counted on.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: NYer
pre-Vatican II times, when supposedly the Church had no respect for academic freedom

Without those pre-Vatican II times in the Church there would be no universities of any kind.

10 posted on 05/18/2009 11:41:36 AM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Ann Archy

Yup, she worked for SAGE.


11 posted on 05/18/2009 11:43:03 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: NYer
"A half-century of progress for Catholic higher education is at risk of slipping back into those insular, parochial pre-Vatican II days," when, according to McGuire, "academic freedom was not valued within the Catholic Church."

Obama used the term "parochial" pejoratively in his speech at ND. Sounds like talking points from a conference call. Liberal meme. The anti-Catholic slurs continue.

12 posted on 05/18/2009 11:47:27 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

You mean Lesbian University of DC (trinity just means a lesbian menage a trois, you know)? They unleashed on prolife people?

((yawn))

Wake me up when there’s news.


13 posted on 05/18/2009 11:48:25 AM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: massgopguy

What is SAGE?


14 posted on 05/18/2009 11:49:24 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: massgopguy

What is SAGE?


15 posted on 05/18/2009 11:49:24 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: markomalley; NYer
What could be more "parochial" than a university held hostage by the fringe subculture of gender-bender bullies? And why does this continue to go on and on and on...
Two commencements, two abnormal weirdos dissing the Church and the Catholic faith.
16 posted on 05/18/2009 11:50:53 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity; NYer
What could be more "parochial" than a university held hostage by the fringe subculture of gender-bender bullies? And why does this continue to go on and on and on...

Two commencements, two abnormal weirdos dissing the Church and the Catholic faith.

Raymond:  … Talk for a moment about the New Springtime.  The Pope has talked a great deal about the New Springtime and you, yourself have laid out your own ideas.  Your vision is a little different from some.  Some see the numbers growing and everybody believing and dancing hand-in-hand (the Cardinal chuckles) into the millennium.  You see a different picture.  Tell us what that picture involves.  How do you see this Springtime evolving?

Cardinal: As I do not exclude even this dancing hand-in-hand, but this is only one moment.  And my idea is that really the springtime of the Church will not say that we will have in a near time buses of conversions, that all peoples of the world will be converted to Catholicism.  This is not the way of God.  The essential things in history begin always with the small, more convinced communities.  So, the Church begins with the 12 Apostles.  And even the Church of St. Paul diffused in the Mediterranean are little communities, but this community in itself is the future of the world, because we have the truth and the force of conviction.  So, I think also today it should be an error to think now or in 10 years with the new springtime, all people will be Catholic.  This is not our future, nor our expectation.  But we will have really convinced communities with élan of the faith, no?  This is springtime — a new life in very convinced persons with joy of the faith.

Raymond: But, smaller numbers?  In the macro?

Cardinal: Smaller numbers, I think.  But from these small numbers we will have a radiation of joy in the world.  And so, it’s an attraction, as it was in the old Church.  Even when Constantine made Christianity the public religion, there were a small number of percentage at this time; but it was clear, this is the future.  So we can live in the future, just give us a way in a different future.  And so, I would say, if we have young people really with the joy of the faith and this radiation of this joy of the faith, this will show to the world, “Even if I cannot share it, even if I cannot convert it at this moment, here is the way to live for tomorrow.”

And I can see right now the apostate many separating themselves from the remnant few.

17 posted on 05/18/2009 11:55:39 AM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: NYer
Hmmm....

1981-83 Working member, National Organization for Women, Hampshire County Chapter, Massachusetts. Chapter President (1982). Delegate to National NOW Conference, 1982.

She is a member of the Women's Advisory Board of the Girl Scouts of the Nation's Capital.

In 2000, President McGuire was appointed by D.C. Mayor Anthony Williams and the D.C. Financial Control Board to a special term on the Education Advisory Committee overseeing the D.C. Public Schools.

In June 1998, Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin appointed President McGuire to serve as a member of the first-ever citizens' advisory panel on coinage, the 8-member Dollar Coin Design Advisory Committee, which recommended the image of Sacagawea for the dollar coin.

http://peabody.vanderbilt.edu/documents/pdf/tccpr/Maguire.pdf

Questions remain...
18 posted on 05/18/2009 12:01:44 PM PDT by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: markomalley
Something from Hogarth comes to mind...

Grotesque

One error at Notre Dame emboldens others to act up and so on.

19 posted on 05/18/2009 12:02:01 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

Shes obviously well connected with NOW and the Democrats. Why on Earth (more like Hell) would she be entrusted with a university that has a Catholic Charter.


20 posted on 05/18/2009 12:03:44 PM PDT by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
She's a dolt.


21 posted on 05/18/2009 12:06:46 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: NYer

Patricia McGuire, how the fih-kah-yah?

Well, I guess we’ve been told?

Incidentally, President McGuire, “Well behaved men don’t make history either.”

God, what a dilettante.


22 posted on 05/18/2009 12:07:40 PM PDT by RexBeach ("Do your duty in all things." Robert E. Lee)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: markomalley

Is this an extract from Raymond Arroyo’s interview with (then) Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger? I distinctly recall him speaking about the church shrinking but could not remember when he had said it.


23 posted on 05/18/2009 12:17:34 PM PDT by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: NYer
Dyke detector on full alarm!!

Interesting that this ...uh....person, has jumped to Jenkins' defense. I've long had a hunch that Jenkins is a member of the lavender mafia and this outburst by McGuire strengthens my suspicions.

24 posted on 05/18/2009 12:21:45 PM PDT by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Dominick

Yes, why, indeed...

The order which founded, owns, and supposedly runs Trinity College (now "Trinity University") in Washington did indeed go "bonkers" in the 1960s. The way of Kumbaya, Enneagrams, Jonathan Livingtson Seagull theology and beyond. It is entirely possible there is no one in the chain of command sane enough to direct these types to counseling and the therapist's office to work through their issues. The bishop who should do something is the same one who does nothing to rein in Pelosi, Biden, Kerry, Kennedy, et al.

I tried to explain this dilemma with the Notre Dame controversy on the other thread posted: Notre Dame's Kabuki Dance with Obama and the Culture of Death

But it seems doubtful anything will be done about it.
They just wring their hands and talk about "prayer" and "dialogue" while the madness continues. Two commencements, two abnormal weirdos dissing the Catholic faith, and bishops twiddling their thumbs.

25 posted on 05/18/2009 12:22:44 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: NYer

When liberals come into power, “speaking truth to power” suddenly becomes “growling in hatred.”


26 posted on 05/18/2009 12:23:11 PM PDT by dangus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: dangus

If real academic freedom existed, Rush Limbaugh would be speaking at some of these commencements.


27 posted on 05/18/2009 12:27:05 PM PDT by aimhigh
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: netmilsmom

Home run! This woman has no idea what she’s talking about. Does anyone have a list of the Board of Trustees of this university?


28 posted on 05/18/2009 12:28:32 PM PDT by Steelfish
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: NYer

If the Church doesn’t get control of these people, there wont be a Church.

How can the Church be the sponsor of catholic Colleges that dont conform to Catholic teachings? This wo—ma— thing needs to be removed from her position as does Jenkins.

Life aint easy
when you are big fat and greasy.


29 posted on 05/18/2009 12:34:58 PM PDT by Venturer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer
The religious vigilantism apparent in the Notre Dame controversy arises from organizations that have no official standing with the church, but who are successful in gaining media coverage as if they were speaking for Catholicism. . . . They have established themselves as uber-guardians of a belief system we can hardly recognize. Theirs is a narrow faith devoted almost exclusively to one issue. They defend the rights of the unborn but have no charity toward the living. They mock social justice as a liberal mythology.

Tell that to Bishop Burke

30 posted on 05/18/2009 12:36:41 PM PDT by ALPAPilot
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: antceecee

Funny. I was wondering the same thing.


31 posted on 05/18/2009 12:40:08 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: All

The only hatred I have my dear lady is hatred for abortion...that is what was protested. Not the person of Obama but his stance on abortion.
They say the same thing about those who oppose gay marriage. We’re called homo-phobes and bigots. They use these blanket statements to incite guilt and shame. Doesn’t work with me.


32 posted on 05/18/2009 12:46:00 PM PDT by prayerfullywaiting
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: NYer
'Well Behaved Women Don't Make History'

Mary did.

Obstinate prideful sinners don't make heaven.

33 posted on 05/18/2009 12:49:49 PM PDT by Nihil Obstat (God bless)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: dangus

When liberals come into power, “speaking truth to power” suddenly becomes “growling in hatred.”

More like “growling in terror that the bishops are starting to wake the hell up”.

Freegards


34 posted on 05/18/2009 12:56:44 PM PDT by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed Says Keep the Faith!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: NYer

This bull dyke needs to be yanked. This carpet munching clam bumper has no business being President of a Catholic University. What a disgrace.


35 posted on 05/18/2009 1:10:15 PM PDT by bdeaner (The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ? (1 Cor. 10:16))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer
...disrupting the commencement address of the nation's first African American president."

There it is in a nutshell....Black Man deserves a pass. Black Man ain't as good as White Man so he needs a special dispensation. Liberals make me sick. They should be called out on their filthy elitist racism.

36 posted on 05/18/2009 1:10:52 PM PDT by mick (Central Banker Capitalism is NOT Free Enterprise)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Nihil Obstat

Excellent!


37 posted on 05/18/2009 1:15:18 PM PDT by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: NYer
Is this an extract from Raymond Arroyo’s interview with (then) Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger?

Yup

38 posted on 05/18/2009 1:50:04 PM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson