Posted on 03/10/2009 11:43:10 AM PDT by mainestategop
I got a friend of mine who is anti israel. He follows the teachings of a church based in Fort Collins Colorado run by a man named Pastor Peter J Peters. He runs two ministries, scriptures for america and a radio and internet talk show called another untold story. He tells me that everything wrong with this nation is God is punishing america for giving aid and money to israel and that is proof that Israel is not a holy nation. He says the Jews are antichrists, theives and money launderers and that Jewish Bankers caused the recession. He also denies the holocaust.
He also says that Jews are responsible for most marxism and liberal progresive ideology movements as further proof that they are not chossen. He also cites that Israel murders palestinians.
He denies being and anti semite or a racist, he claims to have black friends yet his pastor believes that europeans are the Israelite chosen.
My advice is find other friends, MSG. You can protect human beings from anything but themselves.
IMO, people that far gone aren’t worth trying to reason with. Time to reconsider the friendship!
Whoa, I don’t know if I can tell you this story if the masters allow it or not. The story would be entitled The Inadvertent Confession of a Jew. We did not say it and it’s not Hitler saying it. Now we know someone wants our guns, but who? Jews! So says a Jew, Aaron Zelman who is Jewish himself said it as the head of JPFO, Jews for the Preservation of Firearms. Did he say that? Did he confess that Jews want to disarm Americans, that there is a Jewish conspiracy against America? That Jews control America’s media, have a death grip on America’s government and are left wing liberal anti-gunners, that Jews use the cry of anti-Semitism as a weapon to suppress truth? Did he confess all that, did he say they tried to prevent a free press in America and are against freedom and want total people control? Whoa, did he say they are liars wanting to put Americans under tyranny and are the ones responsible for problems in America and more? You decide when you learn and hear this story called The Inadvertent Confession of a Jew but remember we did not say it. This is an interview with the head of the JPFO, Aaron Zelman who is Jewish. Jews for the Preservation of Firearms. Somebody wants your guns but who, he says you know who, but you aren’t supposed to say that.
Tell him to prove it with hard, fast evidence. If he doubts your researcher’s evidence, provide his own original research. Make him prove a negative instead of the other way around. That’s how science works.
IMAO: I used to listen to this Jewish guy who also said that we should give aid to right wing kahanists.
>>He says the Jews are antichrists, theives and money launderers and that Jewish Bankers caused the recession. He also denies the holocaust.<<
There is a great drug for Paranoid Schizophrenia called Prolixin Decantoate. One shot in the rear should help.
Seriously, I once asked SJackson to help me with a fight I was having with a stupid in-law cousin of mine. I received GREAT information. Good Luck
>>We have lost prayer in schools, we have abortion, we have homosexuality, we have recessions, we just elected hitlers black look alike and yet we give billions to Israel. Where’s the blessing?<<
No freakin’ way could your possibly believe that the two are connected.
We give money to the Palis too. Hellsbells we give money to everyone.
I like the poster above. Tell him to send you some proof or keep it to himself.
A guy we just hired told us he is a member of the Maki back home in Israel. Yikes.
pray that God touches his soul.....He is the only one that can make him a true believer.
Read the book Eye to Eye by Koenig
Why post such bilge?
Peters has hosted Scriptures for America Bible retreats, Family Bible Camp Conferences, and seminars that have attracted prominent Identity and other far-right figures. He hosts a Scriptures for America short-wave radio program and disseminates audiocassette tapes of his sermons and those of other Identity preachers.Peters has hosted Scriptures for America Bible retreats, Family Bible Camp Conferences, and seminars that have attracted prominent Identity and other far-right figures.
Although now avoiding the Identity label, Peters continues to warn of purported Jewish conspiracies. He has proclaimed on his Scriptures for America site:
The same wealthy, anti-Christ sect which categorizes evangelistic efforts of Baptists as ‘coercion, hatred and violence,’ has appointed itself a monitor of what it terms ‘hate groups.’ It spends vast sums writing propaganda against these groups and distributing its propaganda to law enforcement agencies across the land. The same sect is in control of the nation’s news and entertainment media, which it also uses to disseminate its propaganda.
To the same end, in a 2000 SFAW newsletter, Peters took note of the national conventions of the major political parties and warned, “Christians, Beware of the Esoteric Message by Hillary Rodham Clinton.” He stated: “In Hillary’s speech at the Democratic convention, she said of Al Gore and his Jewish running mate — ‘They have what it takes and they’ll do what it takes.’” He added: “Esoterically, this rod of Ham was telling her people that the man she was endorsing had what it takes to advance the Jewish, Communist dream of one world government....When she said ‘they’ll do what it takes’, she was telling her people, these men will not hesitate to implement any means to meet the desired end.”
(It should also be noted that Peters’s wife Cheri, who died of cancer in October 1998, was an active participant in the ministry, writing a column for Scriptures for America entitled “For Women Only.” Her writings merged hostility toward traditional feminism with anti-Semitism: in a 1989 column, for instance, she referred to abortion clinics as places where women are “abused and mutilated by Talmudic butchers.” Peters remarried in 1999.)
In January 2001, Scriptures for America’s Web site began publication of Identity leader Jack Mohr’s writings and indicated that printed copies of his work could be obtained from the group. Included in Mohr’s materials on the site was a “Fall Intelligence Report — 2000” which charged: “Today, we see a planned, vicious attack against White society. This is all part of the plan by International Zionism, as outlined in their Holy Book, the Talmud, to destroy White Christian Civilization. In spite of all denials to the contrary, it is there to see, for those who are willing to look.”
There are commies everywhere.
The first part of your statement is why we could lose God's blessing. It has nothing to do with giving cash to Israel, but it has everything to do with turning our backs on Israel and God in all other ways.
Peter J. Peters is a major nutcase.
Pastor Peter Peters? LOL! Hooboy!
This might help, too - FR thread from 2004:
British Israelism - an expose
I agree with you.
What is good for you is not always easy. Like having a splinter in your finger. It hurts to pull it out but it feels so much better.
The fruits of this guy’s ministry seem a tad on the....fermented side.
Ask him toprove what the Pastor’s claiming. he will probably come back with something like “The science is settled!”
sound familiar?
You can’t convince your friend that he’s wrong, but perhaps you can give him a couple of books to read. Otherwise, it’s best to ignore people like him or, if you must remain friends, just never talk about Israel. Unless you’re Jewish, it really shouldn’t be front and center in your life anyway.
With the exception of Jericho and the Druz villages, every other arab town greeted me with extreme hostility.
When they found out I was not Jewish, they quickly changed their story but it was EASY to tell it was just an act.
netmilsmom: There is a great drug for Paranoid Schizophrenia called Prolixin Decantoate. One shot in the rear should help.Seriously, I once asked SJackson to help me with a fight I was having with a stupid in-law cousin of mine. I received GREAT information. Good Luck
mainestategop: He says the Jews are antichrists, theives and money launderers and that Jewish Bankers caused the recession. He also denies the holocaust....He also says that Jews are responsible for most marxism and liberal progresive ideology movements as further proof that they are not chossen. He also cites that Israel murders palestinians...He denies being and anti semite or a racist, he claims to have black friends yet his pastor believes that europeans are the Israelite chosen.
I don't remember the circumstances of netmilsmom's question, but I suspect it was factually based.
Pastor Peter J Peters is a Christian Identity preacher, your friend likely practices a faith as toxic as jihadists or Reverend Wright. You can't convince true believers that Jews don't run the world any more than you can convince the they don't drink Christian children's blood or, as your friend likely believes, that Jews are the agent of the devil. I wouldn't waste my time.
BTW, I'm not at all surprised that he has black friends, despite practicing a racist ideology. If you read the Nuremburg transcripts you'll be struck by the number of highere ups who really liked Jews, had a Jewish friend, or accountant, or Doctor. Didn't stop them from killing them in furtherance of their pagan belief.
What’s his name? Let me come visit him.
Thank you, my FRiend.
You are gracious as always.
Wikipedia on Laporte Church of Christ. "who proclaims that Europeans comprise the ten lost tribes of Israel and that contemporary Jews are satanic impostors, the descendants of the Biblical Esau -- the brother and nemesis of Jacob (Israel). "
Sounds like Christian Identity.
I'd suggest you be looking into that belief system.
More like a titmouse.
LOL! His parents don’t seem to have been the brightest bulbs, either.
Me, personally I have no problem with any group... unless it’s the Islamists who are trying to take over the world, (but for the sake of argument, following his twisted line of thought) hmm let’s see:
I doubt his sincerity in his argument, Does he blame the Italians for bringing in the under world crime into corporations? is AIG’s head not Irish? Is he blaming the Arab oil OPEC that started this whole economical slow down long before 2009 (as Donald Trump and Walid Phares stated)? this term “jewish banker” today has no validity, it stems from the Nazi 1930s propaganda, today’s bankers are mostly non-Jewish.
As to be the “real Israelites chosen” that’s most Halloween “argument” I have ever heard.
After so many years Jewish suffering from Europeans and being told that they should GO BACK to their roots - where they came from - AKA Israel / “palestine’... now it’s too late for the “disciples’ of that bigotry to change its version and rewrite history just because it’s the new convenient anti Jewish thing to do...
“Thanks” to the never stopped-hatred chain in history (since the Spanish inquisition that blamed THEM for Jesus’ death) where the same Jews were targeted, this truth (of oly THESE JEWS BEING THE REAL ISRAELITES) is known to all.
Haters can’t have it both ways... blaming Jews for being Israelites at the time of Jesus then “deny” their historic claims to their very original homeland...
Question: What does he think the Arab Muslim “Palestinians” have in store for ANY Non Muslims after they get more comfortable towards their vision of Islamic Caliphate suppressing all infidels beneath them?
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