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Patriarch Kirill hopes for broader dialogue with Catholics (updated)
interfax.com ^ | 03 February 2009

Posted on 02/03/2009 7:41:21 AM PST by GonzoII

2009-02-03 12:23:00

Patriarch Kirill hopes for broader dialogue with Catholics (updated)

Moscow, February 3, Interfax - Patriarch Kirill of Moscow and All Russia said he hoped relations between the Russian Orthodox Church and the Roman Catholic Church would further develop.

The Russian Patriarch met with an official delegation of the Holy See, which attended his enthronement, at his working residence in Moscow on Monday.

Patriarch Kirill "expressed the hope that relations between the two churches would further develop in an atmosphere of mutual trust and cooperation, primarily in defending and asserting the traditional Christian values in Europe and in the world as a whole," the Moscow Patriarchate reported on its website on Tuesday.

Coincidence of the Orthodox and Catholic believers' positions on many aspects of the life of present-day society could provide the groundwork for such interaction, the Patriarch said.

The Catholic delegation was led by Walter Cardinal Kasper, the head of the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity. Council Secretary, Bishop Brian Farrell, and the Vatican envoy in Russia, Archbishop Antonio Mennini, were among the delegates.

Pope Benedict XVI, on his part, congratulated Patriarch Kirill of Moscow and All Russia on his enthronement and reaffirmed his "esteem and spiritual closeness."

In a message to the head of the Russian Orthodox Church, made available to Interfax-Religion on Tuesday, the pope said that Patriarch Kirill was now the successor of Alexy II, who "worked assiduously for the unity of the Russian Orthodox Church and for communion with the other Orthodox Churches."

"He likewise maintained a spirit of openness and cooperation with other Christians, and with the Catholic Church in particular, for the defense of Christian values in Europe and in the world. I am certain that Your Holiness will continue to build on this solid foundation, for the good of your people and for the benefit of Christians everywhere," Pope Benedict said.

"I readily recall the good will which characterized our meetings at the time of your service as President of the Department of External Church Relations," the Pope writes.

"It is my earnest hope that we will continue to cooperate in finding ways to foster and strengthen communion in the Body of Christ," he said.

Pope Benedict's message was handed to the Russian patriarch on Monday by Walter Cardinal Kasper. He also passed to the Russian Patriarch a gift from the Pope - a communion cup as the token of the desire to reach complete communication soon.


TOPICS: Catholic; Ecumenism; Orthodox Christian; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: bishops; kirill; russia; vatican
"Patriarch Kirill "expressed the hope that relations between the two churches would further develop in an atmosphere of mutual trust and cooperation, primarily in defending and asserting the traditional Christian values in Europe and in the world as a whole," the Moscow Patriarchate reported on its website on Tuesday."

Your Holiness, I hereby propose a "Moral Absolutes" ecumenical council, we can find some agreement there for sure.

1 posted on 02/03/2009 7:41:22 AM PST by GonzoII
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To: GonzoII; crazykatz; JosephW; lambo; MoJoWork_n; newberger; The_Reader_David; jb6; ...

Orthodox ping


2 posted on 02/03/2009 7:49:05 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: GonzoII

That this could someday happen is my fervent prayer. That it will happen in my life is doubtful. But at least they are talking.


3 posted on 02/03/2009 7:59:08 AM PST by festus (Politics makes for strange bedfellows)
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To: festus
It would be a significant step forward to develop the kind of trust and good will relationship the Pope and the Ecumenical Patriarch enjoy, which is good for the Church spiritually. Pat. Kirill I, on the other hand, commands over 80% of the world's Orthodox and must be a factor to be reckoned with. He is a tried realist and a career diplomat, so this may be a win-win combination for all.
4 posted on 02/03/2009 9:56:56 AM PST by kosta50 (Don't look up, the truth is all around you)
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Indeed Patriach Kirill is key and quit influential, not just within Russian Orthodox but certainly to the autocephalas entities since, OCA among others.

I’ve followed the Eastern and Western teachings for a while now. The divides are not as simple as often perceived.

But at least they are talking now. Thats more than was happening not so long ago.

In time God may grant the schism to heal. But it will require humility on the part of both east and west.


5 posted on 02/03/2009 12:18:14 PM PST by festus (Politics makes for strange bedfellows)
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To: festus
Our divides are not simple at all. But most of them are a result of separate outgrowth based on language, culture and history. The Church has for all practical purposes been linguistically divided since the 5th century onward. The legalistic Roman mindset was alien to Greeks, and closer to Judaism. The influence of Franks was politically and otherwise inimical to the East.

Much of it has to do with the way we see things culturally, such as looking someone in the eye djuring an interview. In the Anglo-Saxon West it is a sign of an open encounter, but in many if not most cultures it is considered highly disrespectful, even a challenge and highly offensive.

In Latin, the words and concepts do not correspond to Greek counterparts. Consequently, such issues as "nature" and "persons" of the Triune God are understood and experienced to the point of nonrecognition.

The historical concept of primus inter pares, the jurisdictional extent of the papal ministry, which can be discerned from conciliar texts show the evolution of the concept of papacy as a divergent process between the east and the west.

The few theological differences that do exist are of dogmatic in nature and therefore reach to the very core of each Church.

It will certainly require more than just humility on both sides to come to any kind of understanding. But a joint statement of faith would be a good start. One would have to turn back the clock of time at least one thousand years and start form scratch. The east is ready (because it hasn't changed). but the west? I doubt it.

6 posted on 02/03/2009 3:54:57 PM PST by kosta50 (Don't look up, the truth is all around you)
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It will certainly require more than just humility on both sides to come to any kind of understanding. But a joint statement of faith would be a good start. One would have to turn back the clock of time at least one thousand years and start form scratch. The east is ready (because it hasn't changed). but the west? I doubt it.

I agree. But for the time while dogmatic unity isn't possible, the both Churches could work together in promoting Christian values, social work in charity in today's secular society.

7 posted on 02/04/2009 4:30:27 AM PST by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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But for the time while dogmatic unity isn't possible, the both Churches could work together in promoting Christian values, social work in charity in today's secular society
8 posted on 02/04/2009 5:11:47 AM PST by kosta50 (Don't look up, the truth is all around you)
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To: festus
"That this could someday happen is my fervent prayer. That it will happen in my life is doubtful. But at least they are talking."

Your prayer and mine.

9 posted on 02/04/2009 7:43:53 AM PST by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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