Posted on 01/27/2009 11:06:53 AM PST by NYer
Niuhuru: Are you sure?
Take a look at what's left of Europe. The Italians, French, British ... and others, reduced their birthrates through contraception. With a scaled down workforce, they looked to the Middle East for cheap laborers. The Muslims have settled in nicely, reproducing like rabbits. Do the math ... how long before they outnumber the natives?
Which brings us to the next phase of Europe. The following is a description (slightly modified) from Dr. Peter Hammond's book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat. www.frontline.org.za/books_videos/sti.htm
As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness.
At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs [Europe, Australia, USA and Japan]. Six percent of US prison inmates are Muslim. Like any other minority, they won’t integrate, but work to build their own separate community.
From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. South Africa's Muslim population is 2%, but they control 35% of the businesses, a large percentage of the banks and have five Cabinet seats while Christians (77% of the population) have none.
They will push for the introduction of halaal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves (along with threats for failure to comply).
At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia; Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world, but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.
When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. (Ei: car-burnings in France last October.) Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats.
After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning (India, Mindanao, Philippines).
At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare [Indonesia].
From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya (infidel tax). (Sudan, Kosovo, Lebanon and Egypt).
After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide [Western Papua (New Guinea), Iran, Biafra, Turkey and North Nigeria].
100% will usher in the peace of "Dar-es-Salaam" - House of Peace - as in Saudi Arabia, Libya and Yemen.
http://www.census.gov/main/www/popclock.html
Is the U.S.A. not “the West”?
Log on and watch the U.S. population, as well as the world population, CLIMB.
This “can’t afford children” is often an illusion, especially since you mention the tax rate that improves with more dependents. I am in California too and I see 6-8-kid families filling entire pews in church. They are single provider families that often struggle to pay bills, but they are not on welfare. It is a choice: you drive an older car, the kids learn to go without expensive clothes, take care of the little siblings, and share rooms, and are better off for it.
“So, what ‘cost cutting’ measure will save taxpayer dollars when I’m 85?”
Simply put: Forced Euthanasia. That’s what will very likely come to the fore as a result of this global aging problem.
When you’re 85, and most likely long before then, you’ll simply be too much of a financial burden on those paying for your food, medicine, etc., and you’ll have to check out. That’s about as basic a “cost cutting measure” as you can get.
I was just making the point that the article statement tends to imply that today all we have are planned and wanted pregnancies. ;)
We haven’t paid into anything. It’s an unsustainable, income tax based welfare program. Current tax revenue goes to pay current retirees. The rest get blown by the government and replaced by promises to tax future generations.
Being almost 45, I’ll never see a dime of it. Welcome to my boat - save or work until you die.
The money to pay projected retirees won’t come from trimming the budget here and there. The amounts are in the tens of Trillions of dollars, although in today’s economy that magnitude doesn’t seem to mean much anymore.
We are lucky we have predominantly Christian Latino immigration, and not Muslim like in Europe, but as a nation we are best maintaining our own ethnic stock, just like for Mexico it is best to maintain Hispanic ethnic stock. It is not a matter of chauvinism or racism, — I am myself an immigrant in the US, — it is simply that nations have a collective talent that is reduced when nationalities mix indiscriminately. Some mixing is fine (just look at my children), mixing to the point of erasing the ethnic characteristic is not good.
But the point of the article is not even about that; having a healthy ratio of worker to elderly is a matter of economic survival. It is best to have indigenous population procreate in robust numbers, but failing that, immigration has to fill the need, at the cost of the loss of national identity.
Everyone I know who “can’t afford more children” has a more expensive house than my family’s. It’s simply a matter of prioritizing.
Unfortunately, that's no longer the case in today's nanny-state society.
When parents lose their rights to raise their children as they see fit (ie. to discipline them without fear of being accused of 'abuse' by overbearing government agencies with police powers), then they are merely the means by which government creates future taxpayers. When you couple that with 'deadbeat dad' child-support laws that are predicated on assumption that all non-custodial fathers are potential criminals, then it's not hard to imagine why more and more people are choosing to remain childless.
Yeah, exactly. And 1.2 kids in it, with $200 sneakers.
If you were 85 now, you could come live with us, as long as you like reptiles and bluegrass music. Unfortunately (for such a scenario), we’re almost as old as you are.
I expect to work until I die, unless Tom becomes a TV star, Elen marries rich, or Pat invents cold fusion and ftl travel.
Definition of the Rich. Anyone who has more money than me.
(Its why the Democrats can always get away with raising Taxes on the Rich, because most folks think they are not rich.)
You actually have a good point there. To be frank, if not for the terrorist scum and the others, it would actually provide a breather for dear old Mother Earth if our population went down for a while.
But unfortunately the Mud-slimes are busy reproducing like crazy and not bothering to educate them except for their demented religion.
The world will fall apart, but not because of pollution, but because there won’t be enough smart, non self destructive people to maintain everything that we have now.
And a pool ;-). But seriesly, paying half what most people of similar income spend on the house leaves us plenty for nine children, pets, a car, a truck, a van, music, wine, charity, education, etc., etc.
I realize that many people live in places with horrific housing costs, compared to ours, but many others don’t.
However having the human race die off solves a host of “problems”. No humans no global warming, no Social Security problem and no one to tear down Lord Obama’s effigies.
First of all, that’s not true. Second, why would you come to a conservative web site, if you believe all the leftwing garbage you hear?
Strangler Figs or kudzu would get the effigies, eventually.
Many times when people say they can’t afford to bring more children in the world, what they actually mean is that they can’t afford a 2nd new car, or trips to Disneyworld. When you have a lot of kids, there are sacrifices to be made, but children are a gift, not a commodity. Right now, the Muslims, who do not contracept, are outnumbering non-Muslims in Europe. Soon, this will be the case in the U.S.
Read the book “Caliphate” - it’s a pretty scary (and demographically accurate) story of what’s in the cards for the near future of Europe.
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