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A Quiverfull Of Kids
babblebaby.com ^ | December 10, 2008 | Brett Singer

Posted on 12/10/2008 8:18:42 AM PST by Alex Murphy

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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
The idea of chicks who don't "want some" themselves is just completely at odds with my own experience.

You have not met my wife then.

She only seemed really interested when we were trying to have the children and after number two, her limit, she mostly closed up shop.

There are underlying reasons for this but it is not fun just the same.

21 posted on 12/10/2008 9:30:43 AM PST by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: Alex Murphy
Do people with tons of kids bother you? Or is it none of our business?

Doesn't bother me, none of anybodies business, as long as they're supporting themselves.

5 kids here, BTW.

22 posted on 12/10/2008 9:53:45 AM PST by Lee N. Field (Dispensational exegesis not supported by an a-, post- or historic pre-mil scholar will be ignored.)
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To: Texas_shutterbug
I have seven kids, and I think I could find the time for a couple of more (definitely not in the works, however), but eighteen? I've read of a couple of other large families like this one, and think you have to be a bit nuts to have that many kids.

Surely by now you've learned that most people think you are more than a bit nuts to think anyone has time to properly rear seven or nine children.

Nine is OK but 18 is a bit nuts seems a rather arbitrary distinction. What do you think the cutoff for "not nuts" is?

23 posted on 12/10/2008 10:23:35 AM PST by jabchae
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To: Alex Murphy
Or is it none of our business?

DING DING DING DING DING!

We have a winner!

24 posted on 12/10/2008 12:37:46 PM PST by ExGeeEye (COTUS 2A should be the USA's ONLY gun law.)
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To: jabchae
I think everyone is different. Some folks could handle four or seven or ten. It depends on one's energy level. However, with eighteen kids energy isn't the only factor anymore. There simply aren't enough hours in the day to have really personal relationships with that many kids!

Try spending the day with eighteen of your relatives or friends and ask yourself if you think you really had adequate time to nurture each relationship. Maybe my kids are needy, but there's no way they could get enough attention of they had eleven more siblings!

25 posted on 12/10/2008 2:45:00 PM PST by Texas_shutterbug
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To: Texas_shutterbug
There simply aren't enough hours in the day to have really personal relationships with that many kids!

Well, they won't be spoiled or smothered and they'll have plenty of time getting to know their brothers and sisters.
26 posted on 12/10/2008 2:50:38 PM PST by aruanan
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To: jabchae
I think everyone is different. Some folks could handle four or seven or ten. It depends on one's energy level. However, with eighteen kids energy isn't the only factor anymore. There simply aren't enough hours in the day to have really personal relationships with that many kids!

Try spending the day with eighteen of your relatives or friends and ask yourself if you think you really had adequate time to nurture each relationship. Maybe my kids are needy, but there's no way they could get enough attention of they had eleven more siblings!

27 posted on 12/10/2008 2:51:21 PM PST by Texas_shutterbug
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To: aruanan

Besides, large families represent the most efficient use of resources in raising the next generation. Think of all the duplication and waste if instead of one house with 18 children there were 9 houses with 2 children in each.


28 posted on 12/10/2008 2:53:12 PM PST by aruanan
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Kids are definitely a blessing. Yet, there is more to the meaning of having a quiver full of arrows. In today’s world, we would think that obtaining an arrow is a simple matter, just go to a sports store and buy it. Back then, archers were always working on making arrows. It’s very difficult to make an arrow that is well balanced, has a sharp head, and with feathers perfectly aligned. A good arrow will fly straight.

Thus, the meaning is that parents who take parenting seriously, spend time and effort on their kids, are blessed.


29 posted on 12/10/2008 2:55:07 PM PST by Stat-boy
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To: Alex Murphy

I come from a “quiverfull family” - only seven of us due to medical issues but my parents had that philosophy. Me, I’d like 4 or 5. We’ll see. I doubt I’d want seven kids myself. I’m twelve years older than my little brother, it’s a big distance and I’d like my kids to all be close in age.

That said, really big families who support themselves are nobody else’s business and I’ll defend them any time. Except I feel sorry for the oldest girls. All the other oldest girls of large families I knew were overly stressed as mother’s helpers. I managed to escape that but...


30 posted on 12/10/2008 3:01:35 PM PST by JenB
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To: Alex Murphy
Do people with tons of kids bother you? Or is it none of our business?

It is none of the author's multiple deleted expletives business. Just as it is none of my business to wonder if the writer even has any interest in the opposite sex at all, if one knows what I mean ...

P.s., I define the 40s as "youth" :-).

31 posted on 12/10/2008 4:23:35 PM PST by Tax-chick (If I can't go to Heaven right now, can I just go to Missouri?)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Completely self-supporting? They sure are sucking down a large amount of child tax credits. Maybe those ought to be limited to the first three or four children.


32 posted on 12/10/2008 4:31:06 PM PST by hunter112 (We seem to be on an excrement river in a Native American watercraft without a propulsion device.)
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To: hunter112
Maybe [child tax credits] ought to be limited to the first three or four children.

Maybe they should, but I'm not going to bump off half my children just because the Congress hasn't decided to do this. I didn't make the law.

33 posted on 12/10/2008 6:19:18 PM PST by Tax-chick (If I can't go to Heaven right now, can I just go to Missouri?)
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To: Alex Murphy; Frank Sheed; HKMk23; hunter112
I guess this is as good a place as any to post this rant (no offense, Alex Murphy).

Brett Singer, you are an Islamo-fascist Jihadist useful-idiot tool. What do you think this is, you blithering fairy, a garden party? THIS IS WAR. People win wars. People who have the courage to take chances, the courage to think of something beyond today's tv show or tonight's hookup, the courage to die. I've got five sons and three daughters. (Oh, darn we must be tax-suckers; better off the one who refused to do the dishes after lunch, and the one who listens to that Scandinavian thrash metal music ... just to be good citizens.)

They're being brought up to face the enemy with swords and guns and a bad joke, because the Scots-Irish know how to die, when there's no other choice. Black Jack Pershing is our ancestor, and Stonewall Jackson is our patron saint, and we crib our best lines from Jack O'Neill. Morgen rot, and it's a good day to die. If God is for us, who can be against us?

You're worried about the Duggars having too many children? The Duggars are going to save your pansy *ss. They know how to work, how to sacrifice, how to save, and how to live. They know what matters and what's trash. So do you, Brett Singer, and you can't stand it, because in your heart you know you're building your life on trash. The Duggars (and Anoreth, and Bill, and block-headed James) will save you anyway, because the people that are worth it always save those who aren't ... but you'll still hate them, and being you is its own punishment.

I'd offer you a Guinness, but you wouldn't appreciate it. Have a latte, you Morfordite.

34 posted on 12/10/2008 7:31:48 PM PST by Tax-chick (If I can't go to Heaven right now, can I just go to Missouri?)
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To: Tax-chick

Dearest Mrs. Tax,

And may the Good Lord bless your marvelous family! My nephew currently has 4 children, his youngest sister is pregnant with her first, and my niece has 4 herself (two adopted). I would have to “mega-ditto” your rant as I am incapable of putting it into finer words.

I too emulate Stonewall Jackson, “Black Jack” Pershing is a personal hero, and whenever Mel Gibson cries “FREEDOM” in “Braveheart” a tear comes to me eye.

Potato eaters like me can only hug our Scottish bretheren. You do make better whiskey, but we brew better beer ;-0). And all of our kids will be those who enlist in the Military, pray to the Holy Trinity and love this Country as the beacon it is. Not a bad way to go!

Your clan can join my clan anytime in a foxhole...or two! We’ll let the “useful idiots” assume the position (as they say...).

Hugs,
Frank, himself


35 posted on 12/10/2008 8:02:42 PM PST by Frank Sheed (Fr. V. R. Capodanno, Lt, USN, Catholic Chaplain. 3rd/5th, 1st Marine Div., FMF. MOH, posthumously.)
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To: hunter112; Tax-chick

Get stuffed, government-worshiping, IRS Code moron! The number of kids I have is MY business (and God’s).

Sincerely,
Frank
USMC retired


36 posted on 12/10/2008 8:06:29 PM PST by Frank Sheed (Fr. V. R. Capodanno, Lt, USN, Catholic Chaplain. 3rd/5th, 1st Marine Div., FMF. MOH, posthumously.)
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To: Tax-chick

Great post! I agree completely. Three Cheers for the Scots-Irish!!!


37 posted on 12/10/2008 8:15:16 PM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: Frank Sheed

Semper Fi!


38 posted on 12/10/2008 8:16:26 PM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: Tax-chick
I'd offer you a Guinness, but you wouldn't appreciate it. Have a latte, you Morfordite.

Awesome rant. One of the best I've heard in a long time, TC.
39 posted on 12/10/2008 8:17:59 PM PST by Antoninus (America didn't turn away from conservatism, they turned away from many who faked it. - Mark Sanford)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

I know some families from my former homeschool group who are quiverfull and they are NOT self supporting. They receive WIC, food stamps and medicaid.
One mother in particular mentioned watering down the milk toward the end of the month to stretch it for her family of 11 kids and 2 adults.


40 posted on 12/10/2008 8:22:00 PM PST by kalee
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