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Wait! I Thought He Was The Messiah? (Rev. Wright compares Obama to the Virgin Mary)
CMR ^ | September 10, 2008 | Matthew Archbold

Posted on 09/10/2008 10:09:53 AM PDT by NYer

I know we've all had it a little up to here with the whole Messiah complex from Obama. From the pictures of him with halos, to the electric crosses burning brightly behind him, to the "Jesus was a community organizer" motif.

But now it seems they're changing things up a little bit. Obama, according to the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, is now just like...(drumroll please)...The Virgin Mary. This from The New York Times:

Twenty years ago,” he (Wright) told the crowd at Elmwood’s branch here on Clinton Avenue, “a scrawny little kid, pointed nose, big-eared, mama from Kansas, daddy from Kenya — the Lord told him, an ordinary black boy, ‘You can be a state senator and you can bring folk to the bargaining table who not only do not talk to one another, these folk don’t like one another.’

“He did what the Lord said,” Mr. Wright continued, “an ordinary black boy like Mary was an ordinary little girl.
I don't know why but this actually ticks me off even more than the Obamessiah thing.

I personally don't see the comparison. Maybe it would make a little more sense if it all went down like this as the angel Gabriel came to Galilee:

The angel Gabriel was sent from God to a town called Nazareth,to a virgin betrothed to a man named Joseph and the virgin's name was Mary. And coming to her, he said to her, "Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God. Behold, you will conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you shall name him Jesus. He will be great and will be called Son of the Most High, and the Lord God will give him the throne of David his father, and he will rule over the house of Jacob forever, and of his kingdom there will be no end."

But Mary said to the angel, "Uh...that's a little above my pay grade. And anyway, I don't want to be punished with a baby."

Yeah. Now it makes more sense.


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Evangelical Christian; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: blueturban; bvm; obama; obamabiden; wright

1 posted on 09/10/2008 10:09:54 AM PDT by NYer
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...

Shaking head ....


2 posted on 09/10/2008 10:11:14 AM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: NYer
Just 2 words:

Theology Matters.


3 posted on 09/10/2008 10:14:44 AM PDT by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: NYer

Obama and Mary both receive similar treatment from far too many FReepers.


4 posted on 09/10/2008 10:14:48 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: NYer

You see, Obama didn’t need a virgin birth. He, the ultimate metrosexual, birthed himself by his divine will. </disgusted sarcasm>


5 posted on 09/10/2008 10:14:55 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: NYer

Oh my... for the sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.


6 posted on 09/10/2008 10:15:25 AM PDT by djrakowski
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To: NYer

You see, Obama didn’t need a virgin birth. He, the ultimate metrosexual, birthed himself by his divine will. </disgusted sarcasm>


7 posted on 09/10/2008 10:16:03 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: NYer

Barack Obama wears a blue dress?


8 posted on 09/10/2008 10:16:53 AM PDT by weegee (Say no to the Marxist who "denounces" the 911 terrorist attacks and yet befriended a Pentagon bomber)
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To: SoothingDave
Obama and Mary both receive similar treatment from far too many FReepers.

Please explain this puzzling statement.

9 posted on 09/10/2008 10:18:29 AM PDT by frogjerk (MSM: We will not question Obama bin Biden...)
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To: NYer
I didn't realize the stories about the pregnant male wereabout Barack Obama...
10 posted on 09/10/2008 10:20:08 AM PDT by weegee (Say no to the Marxist who "denounces" the 911 terrorist attacks and yet befriended a Pentagon bomber)
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To: NYer

Rush just covered this...shaking head is right.


11 posted on 09/10/2008 10:20:30 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: NYer
Wait! I Thought He Was The Messiah?

Tossed under the bus (again)

12 posted on 09/10/2008 10:27:27 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Amazing how Obama, Rangel, Biden and Dodd all got killer mortgage rates and below cost property.)
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To: NYer

And this was taught in a Christian church?

I’m gonna have to sign up for the NYT’s one of these days (silly of them — everybody else puts their stuff out on the internet wide-open)


13 posted on 09/10/2008 10:30:30 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: NYer

14 posted on 09/10/2008 10:31:41 AM PDT by End_Clintonism_Now (SOON-TO-BE POLITICAL DISSIDENT.)
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To: NYer

15 posted on 09/10/2008 10:31:53 AM PDT by End_Clintonism_Now (SOON-TO-BE POLITICAL DISSIDENT.)
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To: Alouette; Salem; SJackson; 444Flyer; Esther Ruth; Cindy; blam; Travis McGee; null and void; ...

Rev. Wright’s “theology” on parade again


16 posted on 09/10/2008 10:34:26 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: weegee
Barack Obama wears a blue dress?

_______

Paging Larry Sinclair! Please pick up the white courtesy phone.

17 posted on 09/10/2008 10:37:09 AM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (NOBAMA!)
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To: NYer

The Lord said to Noah, there’s gonna be a floody floody
The Lord said to Noah, there’s gonna be a floody floody
Get. Yo. Chirren. Out the muddy muddy.
Chirdren of the Lord.


18 posted on 09/10/2008 10:45:04 AM PDT by ichabod1 (It's all fun and games until Russia starts invading Eastern Europe (pete))
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To: NYer; xsmommy; tioga

Great, now he’s the “Blessed Virgin Barry”

(forgive me for that one)


19 posted on 09/10/2008 10:51:10 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (Annoy the media, end the Obamanation, vote maverick, McCain/Palin '08 and Free Laz)
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To: NYer

Young Barry spent lots of time hanging out drinking tea and reading poetry with his communist mentor, a pedophile by the name of Frank Davis. I seriously doubt Obama is a “virgin”.


20 posted on 09/10/2008 10:52:45 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Blood of Tyrants

He is Cain to his inner Abel.


21 posted on 09/10/2008 10:54:10 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: NYer

Maybe what really happened was that Rev. Wright said that Obama was toast, and someone misunderstood and thought the good reverend had seen Obama’s face in a piece of charred whole wheat.


22 posted on 09/10/2008 10:54:16 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (The cosmos is about the smallest hole a man can stick his head in. - Chesterton)
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To: weegee

I look at him with disdain..


23 posted on 09/10/2008 10:54:41 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: NYer

This jives with Donna Brazille’s “Jesus Christ, Like Obama, was a Community Organizer, and Pontias Pilote was a Governor, like Palin” Remark from a few days ago...

These people have COMPLETELY LOST IT!!!


24 posted on 09/10/2008 10:56:07 AM PDT by tcrlaf (SARAH PALIN-The American Everywoman (Yes, You Really CAN!))
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To: NYer

I wonder what Larry thinks about this?


25 posted on 09/10/2008 10:58:23 AM PDT by indylindy
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To: NeoCaveman

what would the Rev Wright know about the Virgin Mary? that male pig.........I heard his remarks.......he’s nuts...


26 posted on 09/10/2008 11:03:16 AM PDT by tioga (McPalin - 2008)
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To: NYer

I don’t think his former boyfriend Larry... would agree, he’s like the Virgin-Mary!

STE=Q


27 posted on 09/10/2008 11:12:17 AM PDT by STE=Q ("These are the times that try men's souls." -- Thomas Paine)
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To: NYer
Big difference. Can you imagine Obama praying like this?

The Prayer of the Virgin Mary
The Magnificat - The Canticle of Mary

Annunciation Fra Angelico - fresco from San Marco, Florence (detail)
 

About the Magnificat

The Magnificat [Latin: magnifies], also called the Canticle of Mary, is recorded in the Gospel of Luke (1:46-55). It is the Virgin Mary's joyous prayer in response to her cousin Elizabeth's greeting (Luke 1: 41-45). This great hymn forms part of the Church's prayer in the Divine Office (Liturgy of the Hours). When it is recited as part of the Divine Office, it is followed by the Gloria Patri ("Glory be"). The traditional sung Magnificat is Latin plainchant. One of the hymn's most glorious musical renditions is the version of the Magnificat by J.S. Bach.

The Catechism of the Catholic Church describes the Magnificat as "the song both of the Mother of God and of the Church" [CCC 2619], and explains this prayer's significance:

Mary's prayer is revealed to us at the dawning of the fullness of time. Before the Incarnation of the Son of God, and before the outpouring of the Holy Spirit, her prayer cooperates in a unique way with the Father's plan of loving kindness: at the Annunciation, for Christ's conception; at Pentecost, for the formation of the Church, His Body. In the faith of His humble handmaid, the Gift of God found the acceptance He had awaited from the beginning of time. She whom the Almighty made "full of grace" responds by offering her whole being: "Behold I am the handmaid of the Lord; let it be [done] to me according to Thy word". "Fiat": this is Christian prayer: to be wholly Gods' because He is wholly ours. [CCC 2617]

The Magnificat appears below both in English and in Latin.

My soul magnifies the Lord,
And my spirit rejoices in God my Savior.
For He has regarded the low estate of His handmaiden,
For behold, henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
For He who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is His name. And His mercy is on those who fear Him from generation to generation.
He has shown strength with His arm:
He has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts.
He has put down the mighty from their thrones,
and exalted those of low degree.
He has filled the hungry with good things;
and the rich He has sent empty away.
He has helped His servant Israel, in remembrance of His mercy;
As He spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and to His posterity forever.

Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit.
As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be, world without end. Amen

Scripture text: Revised Standard Version - Catholic Edition


Magníficat ánima mea Dóminum,
et exsultávit spíritus meus
in Deo salvatóre meo,
quia respéxit humilitátem
ancíllæ suæ.

Ecce enim ex hoc beátam
me dicent omnes generatiónes,
quia fecit mihi magna,
qui potens est,
et sanctum nomen eius,
et misericórdia eius in progénies
et progénies timéntibus eum.
Fecit poténtiam in bráchio suo,
dispérsit supérbos mente cordis sui;
depósuit poténtes de sede
et exaltávit húmiles.
Esuriéntes implévit bonis
et dívites dimísit inánes.
Suscépit Ísrael púerum suum,
recordátus misericórdiæ,
sicut locútus est ad patres nostros,
Ábraham et sémini eius in sæcula.

Glória Patri et Fílio
et Spirítui Sancto.
Sicut erat in princípio,
et nunc et semper,
et in sæcula sæculórum.

Amen.



28 posted on 09/10/2008 11:30:34 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: frogjerk

I’m guessing you’ve never read any Mary-centered thread on the religion forum.


29 posted on 09/10/2008 11:39:29 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: NYer

Obama Muslim on You tube

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=obama+muslim&search_type=&aq=f

Obama Admits Muslim Faith
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQqIpdBOg6I


30 posted on 09/10/2008 12:04:15 PM PDT by Coleus (Abortion and Physician-assisted Murder (aka-Euthanasia), Don't Democrats just kill ya?)
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To: End_Clintonism_Now; tioga
To quote another slogan from that era --

"In your guts, you know he's nuts."

31 posted on 09/10/2008 12:22:51 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse - TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother

that’s a new one for me, I like it................”in your guts, you know he’s nuts....”


32 posted on 09/10/2008 12:25:24 PM PDT by tioga (Obama has jumped the PIG....................vote McPalin in 2008)
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To: NYer

Well, large crowds do show up to admire his apparition.


33 posted on 09/10/2008 12:36:58 PM PDT by Zechariah_8_13 ("If we give the bureaucrats our children, we may as well give them everything else." - J. G. Machen)
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To: Salvation
My soul doth magnify the Lord,
And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.
For he hath regarded the lowliness of his handmaiden.
Lo, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
For he that is mighty hath magnified me, and holy is his name.
And his mercy is on them that fear him, throughout all generations.
He hath shewed strength with his arm;
He hath scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts;
He hath put down the mighty from their seat, and hath exalted the humble and meek.
He hath filled the hungry with good things,
And the rich he hath sent empty away.
He remembering his mercy, hath holpen his servant Israel
As he promised to our forefathers, Abraham and his seed, forever.

Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Ghost.
As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be,
World without end. AMEN.

- Cranmer's Book of Common Prayer.

34 posted on 09/10/2008 12:49:24 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse - TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: All

Please. For the love of God. No photoshops of Obama on the body of the Virgin Mary.


35 posted on 09/10/2008 4:12:40 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: NYer
But Mary said to the angel, "Uh...that's a little above my pay grade. And anyway, I don't want to be punished with a baby."

I put the little scenario up on my blog with the title "If Mary had been a Democrat like Obama."

Thank GOD she wasn't.

36 posted on 09/10/2008 4:46:11 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (The Number of the Beast:"six hundred threescore six." Barack Hussein Obama can translate:"Lucifer.")
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To: NYer
By now everybody who's anybody has watched the Obama deal where he's calling Sarah a pig and a stinky fish.

Now, think back to the Reverend Wright "goddamn America" video of earlier in the campaign cycle.

Remember the guy who leaps out to "touch" Rev. Wright? He just jumps up and comes out and touches the Rev. and the hall erupts in applause.

It's like he's some sort of Mr. Interlocutor.

Well, in the Obama calling Sarah a pig deal, you'll see a guy who looks like the same interlocutor doing the same thing ~ leaping up (here he rises up a bit from his bench), he reaches out toward Obama. He doesn't quite touch him, but the crowd erupts in applause and laughter.

So what is this guy's job? Why is he working for Wright and for Obama? I thought Obama walked away from Trinity UCC, yet, a major figure from the TUCC video world is right there directing the audience and touching Obama.

Anyone know any more than that on this shadowy figure? Anyone even know who he is?

37 posted on 09/10/2008 7:27:15 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: HighlyOpinionated
I put the little scenario up on my blog with the title "If Mary had been a Democrat like Obama."

Chortle ... ;-)

38 posted on 09/11/2008 6:04:15 AM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: NYer

Let the word go forth, to Democrat foes alike, “Speak on idiot Dems, speak on!”


39 posted on 09/11/2008 11:38:30 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: muawiyah
Remember the guy who leaps out to "touch" Rev. Wright? He just jumps up and comes out and touches the Rev. and the hall erupts in applause.

I loved those guys! But no one else seems to talk about them. I guess because the touching thing is so "out there" that no one knows how to process it. I know I don't. But I still think it's great. It's bleepin hilarious.

40 posted on 09/11/2008 11:42:14 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg

To 3


41 posted on 09/11/2008 1:35:33 PM PDT by Gamecock
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To: Gamecock; Dr. Eckleburg

LOL! Indeed it does. ;O)


42 posted on 09/11/2008 2:30:22 PM PDT by HarleyD
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