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To: guitarplayer1953

You wrote:

“With Him (Wellum) trowing in the person of Augustine I have questions if he is protestant. Augustine was a believer in Mithra.”

Uh, no he wasn’t. He was a Christian. Late in his 20s he abandoned paganism (Manicheanism) and came to believe in Christ. He was baptized. He was never a believe in Mithradaism which was mostly a religion for soldiers.

As someone noted and documented:

Saint Augustine Tractatus in Joh. Evang. VII, 6. (Pileatus = a god wearing a phrygian cap; either Attis or Mithras).

Some counterfeit therefore the spirit which I speak has set up, as though he would fain redeem by blood his own image, since he knew that by precious blood the human race was redeemed. For evil spirits invent for themselves certain counterfeit representations of high degree, that by this means they may deceive the followers of Christ. To such an extent, my brethren, that these very foes of ours, who delude by their posturing and incantations and devices, mingle with their incantations the name of Christ. And because with poison alone they are unable to lead the Christians astray, they add a little honey, to conceal the bitter taste by the sweet, that the fatal draught may be taken; to such an extent that as I understand at one time the priest of that mitred god [Mithras] was accustomed to say, “the mitred god himself also was a Christian.” (DyingGod website)

And this is a great thing to see in the whole world, the lion vanquished by the blood of the Lamb: members of Christ delivered from the teeth of the lions, and joined to the body of Christ. Therefore some spirit or other contrived the counterfeit that His image should be bought for blood, because he knew that the human race was at some time to be redeemed by the precious blood. For evil spirits counterfeit certain shadows of honor to themselves, that they may deceive those who follow Christ. So much so, my brethren, that those who seduce by means of amulets, by incantations, by the devices of the enemy, mingle the name of Christ with their incantations: because they are not now able to seduce Christians, so as to give them poison they add some honey, that by means of the sweet the bitter may be concealed, and be drunk to ruin. So much so, that I know that the priest of that Pilleatus was sometimes in the habit of saying, Pilleatus himself also is a Christian. Why so, brethren, unless that they were not able otherwise to seduce Christians? (ANF)
http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf107.toc.html

St. Augustine was not only NOT a Mithra worshipper, but he warned Christians against Mithradaism.

Not ironically, the person who has helped fool so many poorly educated fundamentalists, anti-Catholics, conspiracy theorists and so on into believing Augustine may have been linked to Mithradaism is a feminist who looks at all of Christianity as largely a pagan thing: http://www.skepticfiles.org/mys3/christ.htm


9 posted on 08/19/2008 4:00:12 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: vladimir998

Augustine did more to corrupt true Christianity than any other person.Pro-Catholics have been spoon feed to many traditions and dink to much koolaid. You place Augustine on way to high a pedestal.


12 posted on 08/19/2008 5:34:37 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (1 Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; ....)
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To: vladimir998
Uh, no he wasn’t. He was a Christian. Late in his 20s he abandoned paganism (Manicheanism) and came to believe in Christ.

Neoplatonism is only "Christian" if you define "Christian" as pagan. Augustine was a hard-core Neoplatonist. The proof is not only his writings, but the fact that so many other Neoplatonists(Catholic and Protestant) revere him.
92 posted on 08/21/2008 4:01:20 AM PDT by safisoft
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