Pope JPII bestowing pallium on Archbishop Burke
Posted on 06/24/2008 1:31:10 PM PDT by NYer
.- The Office of Liturgical Celebrations of the Supreme Pontiff announced that on June 29, the Solemnity of the Holy Apostles Peter and Paul, Pope Benedict XVI will celebrate the Eucharist at 9:30 a.m. in the Vatican Basilica. The Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew I is also scheduled to participate in the ceremony.
Bartholomew I and the Holy Father will deliver the homily, recite the profession of faith and impart the final blessing. The Pontiff will concelebrate with the new Catholic metropolitan archbishops, upon whom he will impose the pallium.
Among the 43 archbishops receiving palliums are: Most Rev. Frederick Edwin O'Brien, archbishop of Baltimore; Most Rev. Thomas John Rhodes, archbishop of Mobile; Most Rev. John Clayton Nienstedt, archbishop of Saint Paul and Minneapolis; Most Rev. Anthony Mancini, archbishop of Halifax, Canada; Most Rev. William Martin Currie, archbishop of Saint John's, Newfoundland, Canada.
Receiving the pallium is a 1,700 year old tradition reserved for the Pope and archbishops. When the archbishop receives the strip of cloth made of lamb’s wool, it signifies the archbishop’s role as shepherd over his respective archdiocese.
Just the day before, the Pope will have inaugurated the Pauline Year by celebrating Vespers at the Roman basilica of St. Paul's Outside-the-Walls.
HOLY MASS AND IMPOSITION OF THE PALLIUM
EWTN - LIVE 2 1/2 hrs.
Pope Benedict XVI celebrates the Solemn Mass and imposition of the pallium on Metropolitan Archbishops, live from Rome.
Sun 6/29/08 3:30 AM ET & 12:30 AM PT
Sun 6/29/08 9:00 PM ET & 6 PM PT
Huh?
Huh?"
Ελλα, βραι! The Creed.
I know. Hence the “huh”: are we getting 1054 in reverse?
What's the line in Vegas?
My bet is, the filioque will be omitted as it is not universal even in Catholic Church. The Eastern Catholic Churches do not say it, and it was a Latin innovation. It fails, therefore, the vincentian formula: “by all at all times”.
O’Brien is getting one!
I am stunned, however, that such a fundamental expression of unity is undertaken so soon.
“Filoque? Yea or nay?
What’s the line in Vegas? “
Alex is right. No filioque; absolutely no chance of such a thing from the EP.
I’m not sure what all of this means. Reciting the Creed together, even in the context of a Mass doesn’t necessarily mean anything more than that neither the Pope nor the EP views the other as a heretic. We are still in schism over some very serious matters. On the other hand, as I noted on another thread, the EP and the MP didn’t get together to recite the Creed during their schism in the 1990s and no hierarch of the Ecumenical Throne ever attended an Liturgy celebrated by a ROCOR hierarch and “participated” by reciting the Creed with that hierarch. One thing is for sure, beyond the fact that the Creed will be recited without the Latin innovation, and that is that the EP is not concelebrating...just participating...whatever that means.
It looks like the Latin order of Mass will be concelebrated by the Pope and the new bishops, with the Ecumenical Patriarch participating at the altar witht eh homily, the Creed, and the dismissal rite.
Note that were we in complete, full and over-the-top union, the picture would be exactly the same, as the consecration is done differently. The only theoretically remaining step woul dbe for the Holt Father to say the Institution and the Patriarch to say the Epiclesis, but that would be composing a new hybrid rite rather than concelebrating.
The common recitation of the Creed -- if our hunches are right about the omission of the Filioque -- is nevertheless an unmistakable gesture of closure on that 10-century period. It is absolutely stunning.
The filioque will be eliminated just as it was in 2004, when the Patriarch and Pope JPII celebrated the Feast of Sts. Peter and Paul at the Vatican.
Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew and Pope John Paul II sat side by side beneath a canopy before thousands of onlookers, the sight recalling a time when the Church was whole, East and West together. A Greek choir joined the Vatican's, while the epistle and gospel were read in both Greek and Italian. Of great symbolic significance was the reciting together of the Nicean-Constantinopolitan Creed in Greek without the filioque clause. Only at the time of the Eucharist, when Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew withdraw from the altar, were those of us present reminded of the unfinished nature of our common journey toward reconciliation.
Continuing the Dialogue of Love: Orthodox-Catholic Relations in 2004
JPII set the standard that Benedict XVI will follow.
Great pairing of that photo with the icon.
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I did not know that, thank you.
That's what it is all about :-)
Who can forget their meeting in Turkey?!! They both want to be rejoined, believe in this unity in their hearts, but must address the obstacles. A thousand years of separation are not easily overcome. Meanwhile, they have each moved beyond those to embrace their brotherly mission, and demonstrated their mutual affection to all the world. Just look at the joy in their faces.
Good catch, NYer. This participation then has likely little new significance. I must say I would have been surprised if this up coming “participation” really meant a great deal as the EP would seem to be very, very far out in front of the other Patriarchs if it did and that is not really the way orthodoxy works.
Call me eccentric but when EWTN provides live coverage of these events, I tune in, watch and observe, even at 3:30 in the morning. I recall this joint recitation of the Creed. I also recall the camera focusing on the great cupola over the main altar at St. Peter's. The words of the Creed are written there - sans the filioque clause. If not there, then on some wall in the Vatican. But that event remained with me for its beautiful exchange of mutual respect between JPII and Bartholomew I. It was on that date that the relics of St. John Chrysostom and (I forget the other saint) were handed over to the Patriarch and his entourage. This was more than a meaningful gesture. The relics were presented in crystal cases, wrapped with red and gold ribbons and sealed with wax. They became part of the recessional from the Basilica that night. The return to Greece included several Vatican officials. Upon their restoration to the Patriarch's Church (?), a major welcoming ceremony greeted their arrival and the faithful were allowed to come forward to reverence them.
Full coverage of this story was posted and discussed here in the FR Religion Forum. This was a huge gesture on the part of the Vatican and Holy Father. In fact, he also gave them a Church in Rome!
See my comments to Annalex in the previous post. You know, K, the grey cells are beginning to atrophy ;-) but some events stand out in my mind and that joint celebration in 2004 is right up there - unshakable. You were part of the discussion here in the forum. Alas, the event might not have held as great a significance for you as it did for me.
It was 'awesome' to behold and I will again rise at 3:30AM this Sunday to watch this liturgical celebration - LIVE - from the Vatican. I can always take a nap in the afternoon, following liturgy.
“Alas, the event might not have held as great a significance for you as it did for me.”
You are without a doubt correct. To me these meetings are pretty much all show and the real meat of the matter is found in the comments of +BXVI, +Batholomew, +John of Pergamum and +Kasper on the theological dialogs.
But it is nice to see the EP and the Pope together.
At least the seeds of unity have been planted and the seeds will grow.
May we soon be one. We need you, probably more than you need us.
I am not sure I agree, at least knowing the Russian mentality. The union will be achieved when the faithful know the sisterhood of our Churches in their bones. This means watching one another pray for the coming of the Kingdom together. The theoretical aspects of faith are important, of course, but in themselves and not for the purpose of unity. A couple of generations from today -- this is, I think, the realistic timeframe -- a Russian faithful will wander into a Catholic Mass and say, ah, OK, I know what this connects to, I know how it works. I could switch rites if I wanted to; not that I want to but it doesn't scare me. We are not there now, of course, and for a good reason, but we can get there. On the other hand, whether a catechetical formula is found that bridges the questions of Original Sin, or paschalia calculations, or procession of the Holy Spirit -- nothing happens to Ivan Viacheslavov's liturgical instinct at all; Catholicism remains for the Italians and the Poles.
“...a Russian faithful will wander into a Catholic Mass and say, ah, OK, I know what this connects to, I know how it works. I could switch rites if I wanted to; not that I want to but it doesn’t scare me.”
Ah, well I guess I sort of feel the way the Russian may someday. I recognize everything in a Latin Mass and I know, in fact I have absolutely no doubt, its all “valid” and “licit”, but I couldn’t change rites because aspects of the Latin theology do indeed scare me. That, Alex, is why the theological aspects of all of this are so important, at least to some of us. They were important enough to put an end to the False Union of Florence once upon a time so rushing ahead symbolically can be a prescription for trouble.
Right, -- the union will not happen when they are brought to harmony intellectually, it will happen when Ivan Vyacheslavov doesn't feel threatened. It could be that the secular West, the enemy of all authentic Christianity, will scare him more than the shaved chins; it could be that familiarity of ecumentical contact dispels the fear.
This is not to minimize the theological fractures that do exist, as you and I know. The issue is nevertheless, I maintain, chiefly visceral. Is the dark mass a bush, a brother, or a bear? It is, every time, only one of the three, however, the behavioral outcome depends on the presumption you make before you examine the dark mass, not after.
See above.
The Russian...the Serb...the Greek...the Romanian...the Bulgar...the Antiochian...the Orthodox faithful in Jerusalem...etc.
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