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What Is Life/Non-life in Nature?
self | June 23, 2008 | Vanity

Posted on 06/23/2008 3:05:46 PM PDT by betty boop

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I'm putting this up just in case anybody out there is as sick of politics as I am these days, and is looking for a bit of a break, a change of pace.... :^)
1 posted on 06/23/2008 3:05:47 PM PDT by betty boop
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To: betty boop
Joe Biden’s hair plugs and Donald Trump's comb overs are definitely “non life”.
2 posted on 06/23/2008 3:07:40 PM PDT by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islam. TWP VRWC)
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To: betty boop

RNA cannot be synthesized? That must come as a surprise to the enzyme RNA polymerase. Perhaps they mean that COMMERCIAL synthetic RNA synthesis is not as available as commercial synthetic DNA synthesis.

Also nothing in evolution says that a species must by necessity evolve into a more complex species.


3 posted on 06/23/2008 3:09:35 PM PDT by allmendream (Life begins at the moment of contraception. ;))
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To: betty boop

“It’s just resting”


4 posted on 06/23/2008 3:10:14 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: betty boop
As to the topical question, Jean Drew flails about helplessly where greater minds have already already made great strides.

Check out Erwin Schrodinger’s book “What is Life?”

5 posted on 06/23/2008 3:11:52 PM PDT by allmendream (Life begins at the moment of contraception. ;))
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To: Alamo-Girl; xzins; marron; hosepipe; metmom; TXnMA; tiki; YHAOS; MHGinTN; Coyoteman; Soliton; ...

PING, Just in case you might have an interest in this....


6 posted on 06/23/2008 3:13:43 PM PDT by betty boop (This country was founded on religious principles. Without God, there is no America. -- Ben Stein)
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To: allmendream
Check out Erwin Schrodinger’s book “What is Life?”

Check our Bohr's "Light and Life" (1932).

7 posted on 06/23/2008 3:15:12 PM PDT by betty boop (This country was founded on religious principles. Without God, there is no America. -- Ben Stein)
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To: betty boop
“Wimmer began with the information sequence of RNA which he synthesized to DNA (because RNA cannot be synthesized”

http://biosyn.avxtrk.net/RNA_overview.aspx

These guys must be surprised to find out RNA cannot by synthesized! They are MAKING A LIVING selling synthetic RNA.

Why should we take anything this person has to say seriously when they do not even get the basics correct?

8 posted on 06/23/2008 3:17:52 PM PDT by allmendream (Life begins at the moment of contraception. ;))
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To: betty boop
"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

Albert Einstein

9 posted on 06/23/2008 3:23:47 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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The “fans of random” speak and act as if they think the problem of symmetry is irrelevant to their concerns.

In science, order comes from greater order. The atheist has to explain how symmetry can arise from randomness and chaos.The deeper one looks at the natural material world there is more symmetry and order not less.

10 posted on 06/23/2008 3:45:58 PM PDT by mjp (Live & let live. I don't want to live in Mexico, Marxico, or Muslimico. Statism & high taxes suck)
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To: betty boop

It is possible to have a fulfilling life, but that refers to the duration of one’s existence rather than to an accurate description of the stuff doesn’t appear to be “in” a rock, but is “in” a sitting-and-talking-man.


11 posted on 06/23/2008 3:59:58 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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In science, order comes from greater order.

Which is more ordered, a bucket of seawater or the salt crystals that form when the water evaporates? A cloud of water vapor, or a pile of billions of unique, six-sided snowflakes?

12 posted on 06/23/2008 4:00:47 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: betty boop; allmendream
I knew something was wrong so I used his article and did some googling on keywords there in such as ‘siRNA oligos’.

What they are talking about are siRNA or ‘short interfering RNA’.

siRNA: Oligonucleotide (or Oligo) is a short segment of RNA or DNA, typically with twenty or fewer bases. Although they can be formed by cleavage of longer segments, they are now more commonly synthesized by polymerizing individual nucleotide precursors. Automated synthesizers allow the synthesis of oligonucleotides up to 160 to 200 bases

http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/Brands/Sigma_Genosys/siRNA_Oligos.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RNA_interference

13 posted on 06/23/2008 4:24:52 PM PDT by valkyry1
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To: mjp; Alamo-Girl; hosepipe; xzins; metmom; Coyoteman; allmendream
In science, order comes from greater order. The atheist has to explain how symmetry can arise from randomness and chaos.The deeper one looks at the natural material world there is more symmetry and order not less.

Beautifully said, mjp!

Jeepers, just think of the extraordinary symmetry and order of quarks....

Thank you so much for your astute observation!!

14 posted on 06/23/2008 4:31:00 PM PDT by betty boop (This country was founded on religious principles. Without God, there is no America. -- Ben Stein)
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To: Bernard Marx

May “the Old One” ever bless Albert!


15 posted on 06/23/2008 4:32:43 PM PDT by betty boop (This country was founded on religious principles. Without God, there is no America. -- Ben Stein)
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To: betty boop

read later


16 posted on 06/23/2008 4:37:31 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: valkyry1
From their website....

“With over 20 years experience in custom synthesis for the biomedical research communities, BSI has developed the expertise to deliver custom synthesized RNA with quality that meets all your RNAi, siRNA, shRNA and other RNA projects...”

They mention RNAi and siRNA because that is the “new hotness”. They can also meet your “other RNA project (needs)”.

The author should have said “because RNA synthesis is more difficult/more expensive”, but hopelessly out of their depth the author went with “because RNA cannot be synthesized” which is incorrect any way you look at it.

17 posted on 06/23/2008 4:37:36 PM PDT by allmendream (Life begins at the moment of contraception. ;))
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To: allmendream

Um, you addressed your post to Jean ... insult and all.


18 posted on 06/23/2008 5:00:59 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN
Jean Drew = bettyboop?
19 posted on 06/23/2008 5:03:06 PM PDT by allmendream (Life begins at the moment of contraception. ;))
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To: MHGinTN
Ahhhh. I see the vanity/self at the top. In my best Emily Litella voice “.........NEVERMIND”.
20 posted on 06/23/2008 5:05:41 PM PDT by allmendream (Life begins at the moment of contraception. ;))
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