Posted on 06/21/2008 7:04:23 AM PDT by NYer
Shortly before he died, one of Israel's most prominent rabbis wrote the name of the Messiah on a small note which he requested would remain sealed until now. When the note was opened, it revealed what many have known for centuries: Yehoshua, or Yeshua (Jesus), is the Messiah.
A few months before he died, one of the nation’s most prominent rabbis, Yitzhak Kaduri, supposedly wrote the name of the Messiah on a small note which he requested would remain sealed until now. When the note was unsealed, it revealed what many have known for centuries: Yehoshua, or Yeshua (Jesus), is the Messiah.
With the biblical name of Jesus, the Rabbi and kabbalist described the Messiah using six words and hinting that the initial letters form the name of the Messiah. The secret note said:
Concerning the letter abbreviation of the Messiah’s name, He will lift the people and prove that his word and law are valid.
This is I have signed in the month of mercy,
Yitzhak Kaduri
The Hebrew sentence (translated above in bold) with the hidden name of the Messiah reads: Yarim Ha’Am Veyokhiakh Shedvaro Vetorato Omdim
The initials spell the Hebrew name of Jesus, Yehoshua. Yehoshua and Yeshua are e ectively the same name, derived from the same Hebrew root of the word “salvation” as documented in Zechariah 6:11 and Ezra 3:2. The same priest writes in Ezra, “Yeshua son of Yozadak” while writing in Zechariah “Yehoshua son of Yohozadak.” The priest adds the holy abbreviation of God’s name, ho, in the father’s name Yozadak and in the name Yeshua.
With one of Israel’s most prominent rabbis indicating the name of the Messiah is Yeshua, it is understandable why his last wish was to wait one year after his death before revealing what he wrote.
When the name of Yehoshua appeared in Kaduri’s message, ultra-Orthodox Jews from his Nahalat Yitzhak Yeshiva (seminary) in Jerusalem argued that their master did not leave the exact solution for decoding the Messiah’s name.
The revelation received scant coverage in the Israeli media. Only the Hebrew websites News First Class (Nfc) and Kaduri.net mentioned the Messiah note, insisting it was authentic. The Hebrew daily Ma'ariv ran a story on the note but described it as a forgery.
Jewish readers responded on the websites' forums with mixed feelings: “So this means Rabbi Kaduri was a Christian?” and “The Christians are dancing and celebrating,” were among the comments.
Israel Today spoke to two of Kaduri’s followers in Jerusalem who admitted that the note was authentic, but confusing for his followers as well. “We have no idea how the Rabbi got to this name of the Messiah,” one of them said.
Yet others completely deny any possibility that the note is authentic. Kaduri’s son, Rabbi David Kaduri, said that at the time the note was written (September 2005), his father’s physical condition made it impossible for him to write.
KADURI'S PORTRAYAL OF THE MESSIAH
A few months before Kaduri died at the age of 108, he surprised his followers when he told them that he met the Messiah. Kaduri gave a message in his synagogue on Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement, teaching how to recognize the Messiah. He also mentioned that the Messiah would appear to Israel after Ariel Sharon’s death. (The former prime minister is still in a coma after suffering a massive stroke more than a year ago.)
Other rabbis predict the same, including Rabbi Haim Cohen, kabbalist Nir Ben Artzi and the wife of Rabbi Haim Kneiveskzy.
Kaduri’s grandson, Rabbi Yosef Kaduri, said his grandfather spoke many times during his last days about the coming of the Messiah and redemption through the Messiah.
His spiritual portrayals of the Messiah—reminiscent of New Testament accounts—were published on the websites Kaduri.net and Nfc:
“It is hard for many good people in society to understand the person of the Messiah. The leadership and order of a Messiah of flesh and blood is hard to accept for many in the nation. As leader, the Messiah will not hold any office, but will be among the people and use the media to communicate. His reign will be pure and without personal or political desire. During his dominion, only righteousness and truth will reign.
“Will all believe in the Messiah right away? No, in the beginning some of us will believe in him and some not. It will be easier for non-religious people to follow the Messiah than for Orthodox people.
“The revelation of the Messiah will be fullled in two stages: First, he will actively confirm his position as Messiah without knowing himself that he is the Messiah. Then he will reveal himself to some Jews, not necessarily to wise Torah scholars. It can be even simple people. Only then he will reveal himself to the whole nation. The people will wonder and say: ‘What, that’s the Messiah?’ Many have known his name but have not believed that he is the Messiah.”
FAREWELL TO A 'TSADIK'
Rabbi Yitzhak Kaduri was known for his photographic memory and his memorization of the Bible, the Talmud, Rashi and other Jewish writings. He knew Jewish sages and celebrities of the last century and rabbis who lived in the Holy Land and kept the faith alive before the State of Israel was born.
Kaduri was not only highly esteemed because of his age of 108. He was charismatic and wise, and chief rabbis looked up to him as a Tsadik, a righteous man or saint. He would give advice and blessings to everyone who asked. Thousands visited him to ask for counsel or healing. His followers speak of many miracles and his students say that he predicted many disasters.
When he died, more than 200,000 people joined the funeral procession on the streets of Jerusalem to pay their respects as he was taken to hisfinal resting place.
“When he comes, the Messiah will rescue Jerusalem from foreign religions that want to rule the city,” Kaduri once said. “They will not succeed for they will fight against one another.”
THE RABBI'S FOLLOWERS REACT
In an interview with Israel Today, Rabbi David Kaduri, the 80-year-old son of the late Rabbi Yitzhak Kaduri, denied that his father left a note with the name Yeshua just before he died.
“It’s not his writing,” he said when we showed him a copy of the note.
During a nighttime meeting in the Nahalat Yitzhak Yeshiva in Jerusalem, books with the elder Kaduri’s handwriting from 80 years ago were presented to us in an attempt to prove that the Messiah note was not authentic.
When we told Rabbi Kaduri that his father’s official website (www.kaduri.net) had mentioned the Messiah note, he was shocked. “Oh no! That’s blasphemy. The people could understand that my father pointed to him [the Messiah of the Christians].”
David Kaduri confirmed, however, that in his last year, his father had talked and dreamed almost exclusively about the Messiah and his coming. “My father has met the Messiah in a vision,” he said, “and told us that he would come soon.”
Israel Today was given access to many of the rabbi's manuscripts, written in his own hand for the exclusive use of his students. Most striking were the cross-like symbols painted by Kaduri all over the pages. In the Jewish tradition, one does not use crosses. In fact, even the use of a plus sign is discouraged because it might be mistaken for a cross.
But there they were, scribbled in the rabbi's own hand. When we asked what those symbols meant, Rabbi David Kaduri said they were “signs of the angel." Pressed further about the meaning of the “signs of the angel," he said he had no idea. Rabbi David Kaduri went on to explain that only his father had had a spiritual relationship with God and had met the Messiah in his dreams.
Orthodox Jews around the Nahalat Yitzhak Yeshiva told Israel Today a few weeks later that the story about the secret note of Rabbi Kaduri should never have come out, and that it had damaged the name the revered old sage.
I thought this story had been posted to the forum last year but the title search brought up nothing. It is a fascinating story and one worthy of reposting.
They could have asked me and I would have told them the same.
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Yeshua Ha Meshia
The opinion of one Rabbi does not establish any proof. In general the majority of the Jewish population would certainly disagree with the good Rabbi.
Somehow I missed this story along with the mainstream media.
Imagine if a great revered Pope would have done the opposite. It would be headlines in the NYSlimes lol.
My faith doesn’t need a rabbi for confirmation. However, it is a fairly clear sign of all nations being told. From what I understand this guy was highly esteemed. Some will follow this or start to follow, I’m sure, but remember very few will come. As far as why he did this after his death...maybe he was told to do so or perhaps it was thought it would be more effective that way.
Nevertheless, very interesting and worth researching.
YHvH is my rock and my fortress and my deliverer, Let them know that you, whose name is YHvH — that YHvH has become my Salvation (Psalm 118:14)
I shall give thanks to You, for You have answered me, Behold, YHvH is my salvation, "I will feed your oppressors with their own flesh, Praise His Holy Name!
The Name above all other names.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai YHvH is my strength and song,
And He has become my salvation; (Exodus 15:2)
My God, my rock, in whom I take refuge;
My shield and the horn of my salvation, my stronghold.(Psalm 18:2)
you alone are the Most High over all the earth. (Psalm 83:18)
And You have become my salvation (Psalms 118:21)
I will trust and not be afraid;
For YHvH Elohim is my strength and song,
And He has become my salvation (Isaiah 12:2)
"Thus says YHvH,
the King of Israel and his Redeemer,
the LORD of hosts:
'I am the first and I am the last,
And there is no G-d besides Me. (Isaiah 44:6)
And they will become drunk with their own blood
as with sweet wine; And all flesh will know that
I, YHvH, am your Savior And your Redeemer,
the Mighty One of Jacob."( Isaiah 49:26 )
OOOOOBBBBBAAAAAAMMMMMMMMAAAAAAA.
you want more proof than that?
Shades of Luke 1:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=luke%201;&version=31;
Both Zechariah and Joseph saw visions of the Messiah.
Worth thinking about.
What a funny way to spell Barack Obama.
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I’ve got 3 Hebrew letters in response. L-O-L.
Better not let Obambi see this...
Well, that’s an interesting story and one I didn’t expect to encounter this morning.
Why is that??? As Catholics, I understand you guys don't believe Jesus will come back to earth and hang around for a while...
Catholics don't believe in a Pre-millinial rapture.
We believe every word of the Bible, including The Book of Revelations.
We know that much of the Apocalyptic literature is Allegorical and Anagogical in nature. So we are careful about (mis)interpretations
I> Why is that??? As Catholics, I understand you guys don't believe Jesus will come back to earth and hang around for a while...
Catholics don't believe in a Pre-millinial(sic) rapture.
We believe every word of the Bible, including The Book of Revelations.
We know that much of the Apocalyptic literature is Allegorical and Anagogical(sic) in nature. So we are careful about (mis)interpretations
19 posted on June 21, 2008 1:22:51 PM MDT by verga
Mine has a book called Revelation. The only use of allegory is used is in It should be read as literally as possibleI'm not aware of a book in the Bible called revelations.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
It is the Revelation of Jesus Christ to John.NAsbU Galatians 4:24 This is allegorically speaking, for these women are two covenants:
The use of allegory is fraught with danger.
one proceeding from Mount Sinai bearing children who are to be slaves; she is Hagar.
The use of allegory leads to all forms of fables.
or perhaps as metaphor.
You're right. But this was no ordinary rabbi.
In general the majority of the Jewish population would certainly disagree with the good Rabbi.
Right, again! I am reminded of the story of Roy Schoeman, a conservative Jew, whose hometown rabbi was Arthur Hertzberg, one of the highest-profile rabbis in the U.S., president of the American Jewish Congress, advisor to several presidents, and who wrote a number of best-selling books on Judaism and Jewish history. Schoeman wanted to live his life for and with God and considered abandoning his plans to go to M.I.T. in order to stay in Israel studying at one of the Jerusalem yeshivas. He ended up at Harvard Business School. During the spring of 1987 he took a few days off from work and went to Cape Cod to spend time in the nature there. He writes:
I was walking in the early morning, in the woods just back from the beach, when God intervened, dramatically and distinctly, into my life to pull me back and put me onto the right path. As I was walking, lost in my thoughts, I found myself in the immediate presence of God. It is as though I "fell into Heaven." Everything changed from one moment to the next, but in such a smooth and subtle way that I was not aware of any discontinuity. I felt myself in the immediate presence of God. I was aware of His infinite exaltedness, and of His infinite and personal love for me. I saw my life as though I was looking back on it after death, in His presence, and could see everything which I would be happy about and everything which I would wish I had done differently. I saw that every action I had ever done mattered, for good or for evil. I saw that everything which had ever happened in my life had been perfectly designed for my own good from the infinitely wise and loving hand of God, not only including but especially those things which I at the time I thought had been the greatest catastrophes. I saw that my two greatest regrets when I died would be every moment which I had wasted not doing anything of value in the eyes of God, and all of the time and energy which I had wasted worrying about not being loved when every moment of my existence I was bathed in an infinite sea of love, although unaware of it. I saw that the meaning and purpose of my life was to worship and serve my Lord and Master, in whose presence I found myself. I wanted to know His name, so that I could worship Him properly, so that I could follow "His" religion. I remember silently praying "Tell me your name. I don't mind if You're Apollo, and I have to become a Roman pagan. I don't mind if You're Krishna, and I have to become a Hindu. I don't mind if You're Buddha, and I have to become a Buddhist. As long as You're not Christ, and I have to become a Christian!" (Jewish readers might be able to identify with this deep-rooted aversion to Christianity, based on the mistaken belief that it was the "enemy" which lay behind two thousand years of persecution of the Jews.)Not surprisingly, He did not tell me His name. Obviously, I wasn't ready to hear it — my resistance at the time was still too great. But I knew, from that moment on, the meaning and purpose and goal of my life; and that sense has not faded or wavered, although the immediate state of perception did.
You can read the rest of his story here.
You realize that you're contradicting yourself here, yes? A metaphor by its very nature is not literal.
Or
The rest of what you say is a complete contradiction.
I will take my 36 credits of graduate level theology courses over your best guess.
When is he going to rebuild The Temple?
But I believe it will be there in the millennium. Because all the gentile nations will come up I have not found a clear date in His Word.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
to Jerusalem to worship at the Feast of Sukkot
or there will be no rain.
The rest of what you say is a complete contradiction.
I will take my 36 credits of graduate
level theology courses over your best guess.
To claim to have taken 36 credits of graduate theology Anyone who believes that the creator of the universeI would be embarrassed to claim to have taken 36 credits
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
of graduate theology and not know how to spell
or use the provided spell checker.
and to believe there is a book called Revelations in the
Holy Word of Elohim does not speak very highly of the
school you attended.
would be pleased to know that there is a "so-called"
school of theology that teaches the use of fable or
allegory has been misled.
Also, this is an "ecumenical" thread, so be careful not to antagonize other posters.
Another reason to remove the "entrapment" of the Ecumenical threads.Drop it ! and let the vipers come out in the open.
Well sure, but, logically, speaking, the fact that it the use of allegory can create problems doesn't mean that it wasn't being used.
bump to review later
This from the article:
“It is hard for many good people in society to understand the person of the Messiah. The leadership and order of a Messiah of flesh and blood is hard to accept for many in the nation. As leader, the Messiah will not hold any office, but will be among the people and use the media to communicate. His reign will be pure and without personal or political desire. During his dominion, only righteousness and truth will reign.”
I case you don’t know this is not how Jesus said he would return. He said He would come in all His glory when He returned.
The scenario in the article would fit someone who is a false Christ or anti-christ.
Mel
I thought he would “come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.” Acts 1: 9-11
Now I’m confused.
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