Posted on 05/20/2008 8:28:41 AM PDT by colorcountry
LDS, of course, is short for the Church of Jesus Christ of latter-day Saints. The LDS church is making a concerted effort to dominate the Internet search engines. As the LDS Church knows, there is a line of anti-Mormon material out there. So, Mormon missionaries, Mormon colleges, Mormon blogs, etc. are being urged to write as much as they can on the Internet so that terms such as LDS, Mormon, Mormonism, Joseph Smith, etc. when searched on, will list websites favorable to Mormonism. In other words, they're trying to flood the Internet with pro-Mormon information. Of course, the problem with this is that the truth will not be told.
The Church of Jesus Christ of latter-day Saints, the LDS Church, is not Christian. It uses Christian words and Christian ideas, but it changes the meaning of the words and alters those ideas. So, instead of God being the eternal God, and Mormonism God is an exalted man from another planet. Instead of Jesus being the creator of the universe (Col. 1:15-17), Jesus is the product of sexual relations between God and his goddess wife. Of course, when the LDS Church represents itself, it does not represent these "deeper" truths. Instead, he tries to appear evangelical all the while hiding beneath the surface these unbiblical, and false teachings.
So, Christians need to do the same thing. Christians need to flood the Internet with anti-Mormon material. We need to make sure that when the terms LDS, Mormon, Church of Jesus Christ of latter-day Saints, are put into search engines that a fair representation of information is presented -- not just the pro-Mormon propaganda produced by the LDS Church.
On the other hand, this is a good thing because it means the Internet is doing damage to the Mormon church. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints does not want a full disclosure of its history, its altered Scriptures, its false prophecies, the dubious character of Joseph Smith, or the wacko quotes and teachings from so many of its prophets to be exposed on the Internet. So, the LDS Church is now trying to dominate the Internet with pro-Mormon material.
But don't be misled. When the Mormon missionaries come to your door and tell you that they are the restored church, don't believe them. All the non-Christian cults say that the truth was lost and that their profit, profit is, or person organization is the restoration of true biblical Christianity. But, the truth is they are not restoring anything. They are furthering the lies of the enemy and teaching a false gospel.
This may be a test.
I give it 30 Minutes or less around here...
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“All the non-Christian cults say that the truth was lost and that their profit, profit is, or person organization is the restoration of true biblical Christianity.”
Makes sense to me, not! If there’s some extra profit around though, I’d be glad to take it off their hands.
Probably not. I'll bet we have a baker's dozen of Mormons who hit the abuse button before they even read the first sentence of what Slick has to say.
I guess I don’t understand the dynamic of the Religion forum anymore.
Only pro-Mormon is allowed on Freerepublic. Nor are you allowed to disagree with their pronouncements.
And it seems to play well into the objective of the LDS Church. Has FreeRepublic become an arm of their PR campaign?
Devotional threads are closed to debate of any kind.
Caucus threads are closed to any poster who is not a member of the caucus. If it says “Catholic Caucus” and you are not Catholic, do not post to the thread. However, if the poster of the caucus welcomes you, I will not boot you from the thread.
Ecumenic threads in this trial run are closed to all “anti” arguments. Posters who try to tear down other’s beliefs – or use subterfuge to accomplish the same goal – are the disrupters on ecumenic threads and will be booted from the thread and/or suspended.
Open threads are a town square – posters may argue for or against beliefs of any kind. They may tear down other's beliefs. They may ridicule, similar to the Smoky Backroom with the exception that a poster must never “make it personal.” Reading minds and attributing motives are forms of “making it personal.” Thin-skinned posters will be booted from “open” threads because in the town square, they are the disrupters.
Yes. Christians need to understand that "restoration" to a Mormon missionary has a twin whose name is "apostasy." (And that they believe the Christian apostasy was total).
Here is LDS "Scripture" on the subject...note the absolute words "ALL" and "NONE" and apply them to every Protestant, Catholic and Orthodox church body:
My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)÷and which I should join. I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: "they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof." He again forbade me to join with any of them...then said to my mother, "I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true." (Pearl of Great Price, Joseph Smith - History, vv. 18-20)
How is accusation of the rest of us being "apostates" any different than Muslims calling us "infidels?" And how are the e-missionaries, who pour endless articles, propaganda, and threads into various Web sites, any different than the door-to-door LDS missionaries?
That is all good and well, until they try to influence the politics of this country...
The regular LDS Mormons got a lot of unfair criticism due the FLDS raid, so I suppose the moderators are allowing them to defend themselves.
The problem now is that they post their beliefs under “devotional” and no debate is allowed.
I went to their main page. I suspect many here would find quite interesting the things they write about Roman Catholicism.
I mean pushing fake Conservatives, overlooking obvious flaws for the fact that he is one of “them”, and using influence and resources of the cult to change outcomes that never should have been in the first place.
I mean pushing fake Conservatives, overlooking obvious flaws for the fact that he is one of “them”, and using influence and resources of the cult to change outcomes that never should have been in the first place.
I mean pushing fake Conservatives, overlooking obvious flaws for the fact that he is one of “them”, and using influence and resources of the cult to change outcomes that never should have been in the first place.
Matthew J. Slick is CARM, a “home based church” he started after divinity school.
Everyone except his home based church is a cult and he’s going to ‘expose’ them. Right.
You are right, CARM isn’t necessarily kind to Catholics. I personally don’t know much about Catholicism as I have no experience. Wht I do know, I’ve learned on FR.
It would be a shame if FR only allowed one side, and only allowed us to post similarities. I posted this on a different thread, but it applies here as well.
Concerning Proverbs 18:17, the great eighteenth century Christian commentator Matthew Henry, writes, “He that speaks first will be sure to tell a straight story, and relate that only which makes for him, and put his best colour he can upon it, so that his cause shall appear good, whether it really be so or no ... it is fit that the defendant should be heard, should have leave to cross-examine them, and show the falsehood and fallacy of what has been alleged, which perhaps may make the matter appear quite otherwise than it did. We must therefore remember that we have two ears, to hear both sides before we give judgment” (Matthew Henry Commentary 3:895).
If you do not wish to see RF posts, do NOT use the "everything" option on the browse. Instead, browse by "News/Activism." When you log back in, the browse will reset to "everything" - so be sure to set it back to "News/Activism."
On the Religion Forum:
Devotional threads are closed to debate of any kind.
Caucus threads are closed to any poster who is not a member of the caucus. If it says “Catholic Caucus” and you are not Catholic, do not post to the thread. However, if the poster of the caucus welcomes you, I will not boot you from the thread.
Ecumenic threads in this trial run are closed to all “anti” arguments. Posters who try to tear down other’s beliefs – or use subterfuge to accomplish the same goal – are the disrupters on ecumenic threads and will be booted from the thread and/or suspended.
Open threads are a town square – posters may argue for or against beliefs of any kind. They may tear down other's beliefs. They may ridicule, similar to the Smoky Backroom with the exception that a poster must never “make it personal.” Reading minds and attributing motives are forms of “making it personal.” Thin-skinned posters will be booted from “open” threads because in the town square, they are the disrupters.
Many here bash Catholics as well. And Jews. And Episcopals. And...well, it’s gotten to the point where there are only four “safe” religions/denominations on FR, which are granted “protected” status: Calvinists, Baptists, Eastern Orthodox (Serbs), and Muslims (the woman-bashers love that one). Seriously, when was the last time you saw a Mormon-basher criticize Islam in any way, shape, or form? NEVER.
I don’t bash Catholicism, nor any other Christian sect. My experience is in Mormonism, and so I post in relation to Mormonism.
Now, another wise Catholic once told me of his belief that God puts you in your unique position. He brings you into his fold. Was I wrong in interpreting what I was told?
I believe I was born a sixth generation Mormon, in a town that was over 100 miles from a Catholic Church, in order that I might experience coming to Christ, what it means to me, and the difference between Christianity and Mormonism.
Do you think it is proper for you, as a Christian, to tell me that my experiences are not valid, and have no value? Do you think I should not “talk” about it?
I never said a word about the validity of your experiences, nor did I ever suggest that you not talk about it.
As stated by the Religion Moderator in post 25: “...a poster must never “make it personal.” Reading minds and attributing motives are forms of “making it personal.”
YOU have attempted to read my mind and attribute a motive to my statement. YOU have made it personal.
Thank you for responding to my questions. I apologize if you thought I was overly “personal.” However, asking questions in order to clairify a post is allowed on an open thread.
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Do you think I should not “talk” about it?
You didn't ask me but I have an opinion anyway and that is that I believe you are morally obligated to "talk about it".
Thank you graybeard. I too feel it is my obligation to talk about it.
Name some names and I'll bet I could find muslim bashing in their posting history.
BTW, *muslim bashing* occurs with predictable regularity on FR. Only those defending islam are the ones who pay the consequences.
Maybe you need to get out more and read some islam threads.
This is an open thread and it appears you are exhibiting thin skinnedness.
CC was very respectful in the asking of questions, which were not by the greatest reach, reading one's mind.
Well, the correct phrasing is "challenging MormonISM" (I don't, for example, interpret every challenge against Christianity as "Christian bashing")...but beyond that to your point...Look at the bottom of post #11. Seems an earlier post on this same thread dismisses what your false claim of "NEVER."
Leave the thread.
dont kid yourself - it was fair criticism as they were supporting the FLDS
Utah is the most Conservative state in the Nation with the largest ratio of voters going Republican and Constitution party. Bill CLinton came in third in Utah. IOW, The only State that collectively had a true grasp of Presidential politics that go around.
Utah was the first state to grant woment he right to vote. And Joseph Smith's National Reform Party was the first national party to advocate abolition of the slaves.
And of course Reagan had more Mormons in his cabinet and administration than any other President and relished their help.
Jerry Falwell underestood the Political importance of Mormon allies and included them in the Moral Majority. Utah and the LDS church was a key player in stopping the ERA even with its unconsitutional extension for ratification. Falwell understood a few things about Mormons and politics in spite of obvious Doctrinal differences.
A Mitt consumed resources and time that could have better been spent on a more viable national candidate. What’s your point.
*** Seriously, when was the last time you saw a Mormon-basher criticize Islam in any way, shape, or form? NEVER.***
You haven’t been reading the religious forum long have you.;-)
wow
They wanted to abolish the slaves, or slavery?
Why?
I'm thinking it's about time to lean on THIS chapter...
The only difference between the two is that the FLDS are LESS ASHAMED of the the teachings of Joseph Smith and Brigham Young.
Matthew J. Slick Joseph Smith is CARM COJCOLDS, a “home based church” "revelation based church" he started after divinity school having an hallucination.
Everyone except his home "revelation" based church is a cult and he’s going to mormons are going to ‘expose’ them (and take over the world, including all the dead people who ever lived.)
Right.
CYC - you are deliberately misrepresenting CARM. Mr. Slick currently attends a home based church - which FYI is a nation wide non-denominational movement that I have relatives in. No where on the site does he say anyone else is a cult. This is a weasely poison-the-water attack that deflates by your inability to even get the basics about Slick or the site correct.
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