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President Bush to Pope: "Awesome speech your Holiness"
American Papist ^ | April 17, 2008 | Thomas Peters

Posted on 04/17/2008 10:03:33 AM PDT by NYer

This recorded comment from President Bush to Pope Benedict is quickly becoming the talk of the town:



When you hear it being talked about on the newsfloor of the BBC, it's gotta be news.

Oh, and by the way, my interview on BBC World News went very well tonight. They talked with me for almost 4 1/2 minutes, which is a good stretch in the television news world, for those who keep track of these things.


Address of Pope Benedict XVI at the White House Welcoming Ceremony
   

After the welcome of President Bush, Pope Benedict XVI responded with the following remarks.

Mr. President,

Thank you for your gracious words of welcome on behalf of the people of the United States of America. I deeply appreciate your invitation to visit this great country. My visit coincides with an important moment in the life of the Catholic community in America: the celebration of the two-hundredth anniversary of the elevation of the country’s first Diocese – Baltimore – to a metropolitan Archdiocese, and the establishment of the Sees of New York, Boston, Philadelphia and Louisville. Yet I am happy to be here as a guest of all Americans. I come as a friend, a preacher of the Gospel and one with great respect for this vast pluralistic society. America’s Catholics have made, and continue to make, an excellent contribution to the life of their country. As I begin my visit, I trust that my presence will be a source of renewal and hope for the Church in the United States, and strengthen the resolve of Catholics to contribute ever more responsibly to the life of this nation, of which they are proud to be citizens.

From the dawn of the Republic, America’s quest for freedom has been guided by the conviction that the principles governing political and social life are intimately linked to a moral order based on the dominion of God the Creator. The framers of this nation’s founding documents drew upon this conviction when they proclaimed the "self-evident truth" that all men are created equal and endowed with inalienable rights grounded in the laws of nature and of nature’s God. The course of American history demonstrates the difficulties, the struggles, and the great intellectual and moral resolve which were demanded to shape a society which faithfully embodied these noble principles. In that process, which forged the soul of the nation, religious beliefs were a constant inspiration and driving force, as for example in the struggle against slavery and in the civil rights movement. In our time too, particularly in moments of crisis, Americans continue to find their strength in a commitment to this patrimony of shared ideals and aspirations.

In the next few days, I look forward to meeting not only with America’s Catholic community, but with other Christian communities and representatives of the many religious traditions present in this country. Historically, not only Catholics, but all believers have found here the freedom to worship God in accordance with the dictates of their conscience, while at the same time being accepted as part of a commonwealth in which each individual and group can make its voice heard. As the nation faces the increasingly complex political and ethical issues of our time, I am confident that the American people will find in their religious beliefs a precious source of insight and an inspiration to pursue reasoned, responsible and respectful dialogue in the effort to build a more humane and free society.

Freedom is not only a gift, but also a summons to personal responsibility. Americans know this from experience – almost every town in this country has its monuments honoring those who sacrificed their lives in defense of freedom, both at home and abroad. The preservation of freedom calls for the cultivation of virtue, self-discipline, sacrifice for the common good and a sense of responsibility towards the less fortunate. It also demands the courage to engage in civic life and to bring one’s deepest beliefs and values to reasoned public debate. In a word, freedom is ever new. It is a challenge held out to each generation, and it must constantly be won over for the cause of good (cf. Spe Salvi, 24). Few have understood this as clearly as the late Pope John Paul II. In reflecting on the spiritual victory of freedom over totalitarianism in his native Poland and in eastern Europe, he reminded us that history shows, time and again, that "in a world without truth, freedom loses its foundation", and a democracy without values can lose its very soul (cf. Centesimus Annus, 46). Those prophetic words in some sense echo the conviction of President Washington, expressed in his Farewell Address, that religion and morality represent "indispensable supports" of political prosperity.

The Church, for her part, wishes to contribute to building a world ever more worthy of the human person, created in the image and likeness of God (cf. Gen 1:26-27). She is convinced that faith sheds new light on all things, and that the Gospel reveals the noble vocation and sublime destiny of every man and woman (cf. Gaudium et Spes, 10). Faith also gives us the strength to respond to our high calling, and the hope that inspires us to work for an ever more just and fraternal society. Democracy can only flourish, as your founding fathers realized, when political leaders and those whom they represent are guided by truth and bring the wisdom born of firm moral principle to decisions affecting the life and future of the nation.

For well over a century, the United States of America has played an important role in the international community. On Friday, God willing, I will have the honor of addressing the United Nations Organization, where I hope to encourage the efforts under way to make that institution an ever more effective voice for the legitimate aspirations of all the world’s peoples. On this, the sixtieth anniversary of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the need for global solidarity is as urgent as ever, if all people are to live in a way worthy of their dignity – as brothers and sisters dwelling in the same house and around that table which God’s bounty has set for all his children. America has traditionally shown herself generous in meeting immediate human needs, fostering development and offering relief to the victims of natural catastrophes. I am confident that this concern for the greater human family will continue to find expression in support for the patient efforts of international diplomacy to resolve conflicts and promote progress. In this way, coming generations will be able to live in a world where truth, freedom and justice can flourish – a world where the God-given dignity and rights of every man, woman and child are cherished, protected and effectively advanced.

Mr. President, dear friends: as I begin my visit to the United States, I express once more my gratitude for your invitation, my joy to be in your midst, and my fervent prayers that Almighty God will confirm this nation and its people in the ways of justice, prosperity and peace. God bless America!



TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Ministry/Outreach
KEYWORDS: bush; catholic; papalvisit; pope

1 posted on 04/17/2008 10:03:33 AM PDT by NYer
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...

The link above has the embedded audio comment. Don’t know how to post it.


2 posted on 04/17/2008 10:05:11 AM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: NYer

As a Protestant, I am truly glad to see the Pope here, complete with his message.


3 posted on 04/17/2008 10:13:40 AM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: NYer
Freedom is not only a gift, but also a summons to personal responsibility. Americans know this from experience – almost every town in this country has its monuments honoring those who sacrificed their lives in defense of freedom, both at home and abroad. The preservation of freedom calls for the cultivation of virtue, self-discipline, sacrifice for the common good and a sense of responsibility towards the less fortunate. It also demands the courage to engage in civic life and to bring one’s deepest beliefs and values to reasoned public debate.

In a word, freedom is ever new. It is a challenge held out to each generation, and it must constantly be won over for the cause of good (cf. Spe Salvi, 24). Few have understood this as clearly as the late Pope John Paul II. In reflecting on the spiritual victory of freedom over totalitarianism in his native Poland and in eastern Europe, he reminded us that history shows, time and again, that "in a world without truth, freedom loses its foundation", and a democracy without values can lose its very soul (cf. Centesimus Annus, 46).

"Awesome" is right.

4 posted on 04/17/2008 10:14:06 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: NYer

What he actually said, “Thank you your Holiness. Awesome speech.”


5 posted on 04/17/2008 10:14:39 AM PDT by JRochelle (Q. Where are all the polygamist men?.A. Hiding behind the skirts of their many wives.)
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To: ConservativeMind
As a Protestant, I am truly glad to see the Pope here, complete with his message.

As a Catholic, I appreciate your magnanimity.

6 posted on 04/17/2008 10:15:19 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: NYer

“Awesome” is right!


7 posted on 04/17/2008 10:16:11 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: NYer
On the one hand, Obama hangs out with bomb throwing terrorists like Ayers, and hate-spewing preachers like Wright.

On the other hand, President Bush said "Awesome" to the Pope.

I imagine there's some sort of moral equivalency there, with perhaps the casual language of the President possibly being a more egregious faux pas. I'll have to ask my friends in the media to make sure.

8 posted on 04/17/2008 10:31:32 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: NYer

That is a very good speech, awesome indeed. I liked his inclusiveness of the church (catholics and protestants).


9 posted on 04/17/2008 10:42:00 AM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: NYer

Oh my! What a fantastic speech. This man - a German - has a better grasp of America than the majority of our politicians - which includes the 3 schleps now running for the Presidency.


10 posted on 04/17/2008 10:44:30 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Awesome actually means something worthy of respect, something inspiring and worthy of awe.....hence awe...some.

He could have been using it in that sense, though I do not know for sure. “Awesome speech” sounds like “cool speech” almost.


11 posted on 04/17/2008 10:44:34 AM PDT by rwfromkansas
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To: NYer

Sounded to me like W said “Thank you Reverend, Awesome speech.”


12 posted on 04/17/2008 10:47:04 AM PDT by Jaded ("I have a mustard- seed; and I am not afraid to use it."- Joseph Ratzinger)
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To: rwfromkansas

I have no problem with it, but it does sound a little like saying to the Pope: “Dude! You rock!”


13 posted on 04/17/2008 10:47:32 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: ClearCase_guy

Jon Stewart basically said that last night (I caught a bit as I was flipping channels) and happened to see that clip of the president saying that. Needless to say, I had to stop to see what he would say.


14 posted on 04/17/2008 10:54:44 AM PDT by rwfromkansas
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To: JRochelle
Bush is a People's President and his going to the airport to greet the Pope was "respectful" in every way.

I was truly proud that President Bush was there to represent me....and you...and you...and the Christian Heritage of our Nation and it's peoples.

As to atheists...I think it was John Adams who said (IMOW): "That's their problem".

15 posted on 04/17/2008 10:57:07 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: NYer

That is indeed a beautiful speech. If I was voting in an election where a one of the candidates gave that speech, I’d vote for him. Twice.

I’m certain President Bush was sincere in his praise, even if his choice of words may have been a bit “common”.


16 posted on 04/17/2008 11:02:54 AM PDT by SwedishConservative
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To: SwedishConservative

During the children’s Mass at my Church, they sing “Our God is an awesome God”, the Priest sings right along with him. So I think awesome is a fine word to use.


17 posted on 04/17/2008 11:11:53 AM PDT by coon2000
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To: ClearCase_guy
I have no problem with it, but it does sound a little like saying to the Pope: “Dude! You rock!”

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LOL! I guess it does. :)

Still, it wouldn't surprise me to learn that Pope Benedict was pleased at President Bush's response.

18 posted on 04/17/2008 11:13:53 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

I don’t think it was a scrpted line and it expressed Bush’s real feeling for the speech. Awesome in the older sense, not in the sense of Ted and Bill.


19 posted on 04/17/2008 11:23:09 AM PDT by TexanToTheCore (If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
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To: NYer
I agree with the President, it was an awesome speech. It matched perfectly with the beautiful Battle Hymn of the Republic that followed.

As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free. Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! His Truth is marching on.

President Bush has done a much better job of hosting the pope than the USCCB has. God bless him and viva il papa.

20 posted on 04/17/2008 11:26:05 AM PDT by Nihil Obstat (pray for the Christians in the Holy Land)
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To: TexanToTheCore
I don’t think it was a scrpted line and it expressed Bush’s real feeling for the speech

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Agreed! It's my impression that President Bush is a very warm, unpretentious and kind man.

21 posted on 04/17/2008 11:27:52 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: 7thson

I am just devastated to think that the Pope and Sarkozy think more of our nation, say it in such glowing terms - and know more about WHY they think so much of us - than most people currently on the American political scene. Ouch.

Colonel, USAFR


22 posted on 04/17/2008 11:29:45 AM PDT by jagusafr ("Bugs, Mr. Rico! Zillions of 'em!" - Robert Heinlein)
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To: NYer
Just read his speech. Well said, I must say. I wonder if Senator Obama can attribute any bitterness to His Holiness. ;-) I couldn't resist that, sorry.

Well, I expect there will be those who love the visit and those who'll hate it, but those who are luke warm are the ones we should hold up the most. I for one can see how the Catholic Church and the Protestant Churches each have a hand in salvation. It's amazing how two hands can fold neatly in prayer for the common good. I just wish everyone could see it. Sigh.

23 posted on 04/17/2008 11:35:00 AM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: NYer
An absolute keeper. It doesn't get any better.

They should frame it and paste it on the wall of every classroom in America.

24 posted on 04/17/2008 12:25:53 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

I’m with you! :)


25 posted on 04/17/2008 12:29:30 PM PDT by maryz
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To: NYer; Sidebar Moderator; Religion Moderator
Get this out of the religion ghetto! Please!

This speech needs to see daylight in the News forum.

26 posted on 04/17/2008 12:29:42 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: ConservativeMind; Aquinasfan
well, i'll wade into this pool of gushiness just to make the observation that Protestants owe their very existence to the Pope.

Think about it.

27 posted on 04/17/2008 5:04:02 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand ( If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs and blaming it on you...)
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To: the invisib1e hand
No, it's more likely the Vatican owes their existence to the Allies, who kept the Vatican from becoming Nazi food.

This Pope is not responsible for Protestants in any form, being Protestants. Past Popes weren't either, save for the fact that the poor way the Catholic church was run up to Martin Luther's time, forced him to break away.

So, I guess we can thank the bad behavior and teaching of past Pope's with the existence of the Protestant churches, at least.

28 posted on 04/17/2008 7:47:27 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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