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Film spotlights black Mormons' 'untold story': role chronicled from church's beginning
SFGate ^ | March 16, 2008 | Jennifer Dobner

Posted on 03/20/2008 2:29:23 PM PDT by Alex Murphy

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To: greyfoxx39

Uh... the ladies gotta be married just so!


41 posted on 03/22/2008 9:03:39 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Reno232
It's a great time of the year to give thanks to our Savior & remember all He has done for us.

Indeed!


 
 
 


They succeeded in killing Joseph, but he had finished his work.
He was a servant of God, and gave us the Book of Mormon.
He said the Bible was right in the main, but, through the translators and others, many precious portions were suppressed, and several other portions were wrongly translated; and now his testimony is in force, for he has sealed it with his blood.
As I have frequently told them, no man in this dispensation will enter the courts of heaven, without the approbation of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Jun.
Who has made this so?
Have I?
Have this people?
Have the world?
No; but the Lord Jehovah has decreed it.
If I ever pass into the heavenly courts, it will be by the consent of the Prophet Joseph.
If you ever pass through the gates into the Holy City, you will do so upon his certificate that you are worthy to pass.
Can you pass without his inspection?
No; neither can any person in this dispensation, which is the dispensation of the fulness of times.
In this generation, and in all the generations that are to come, everyone will have to undergo the scrutiny of this Prophet.
They say that they killed Joseph, and they will yet come with their hats under their arms and bend to him; but what good will it do them, unless they repent?
They can come in a certain way and find favor, but will they?


"If I ever pass into heavenly courts, it will be by the consent of Prophet Joseph"
--Brigham Young
--JOURNAL OF DISCOURSES, vol. 8, p. 224



 
 

42 posted on 03/22/2008 9:04:59 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Reno232
...endowments performed can & will have them done for them, just...

How very convient!

Why would ANY LDS member even waste THEIR time to EARN the endowment, when some OTHER dude will do it for them in the afterlife?

43 posted on 03/22/2008 9:07:38 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: fproy2222
The way you keep repeating them indicates to me that you do not want to know more.

Ok; just what MORE is there to learn?

I, for one, am ready to 'learn'.

44 posted on 03/22/2008 9:09:38 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: greyfoxx39
I don't appreciate your accusations.

Boo Hoo; Gentile!

Can't YOU take it when we accuse without fact?

Boohoo to you, I say!

--MormonDude(we don't need no steenkin' proof!)

45 posted on 03/22/2008 9:11:08 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: fproy2222
The answer is out there and can be found with a little effort.

If it's so 'simple'; do it and then POST it.

46 posted on 03/22/2008 9:12:46 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Reno232
Is it a reasoned, adult discussion you're after, or just childish games w/ these lists?

Well...

What do you EXPECT when an OLD list is used??


 
 
  
                       Standard LDS responses to data put to them:
 

Shorthand

Reference:

1. How you interpret it is wrong...

(Need a source)

2. You are too ignorant to really understand it because you are not a member....

(Need a source)

3. You're not qualified to judge because you're no LONGER a member...

(Need a source)

4. You are just a bigot for bringing the whole ugly truth to light ...

(Need a source)

5. So’s yer Mama!

(Need a source)

6. Laugh it all off and post some silly image.

(Need a source)

7. Jump down the rabbit hole; Alice!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1982682/posts?page=683#683

8. Bait & Switch

(Need a source)

9. The OTHER 'half' of the truth is what we are avoiding.

(Need a source)

10. "I Know It When I See It"

(Need a source)

11. Hand waving...

(Need a source)

12. YOU play defense for a while.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1982682/posts?page=944#944

13. HEE Hee hee... let's get the Calvinists and the Armenians fighting!

(Need a source)

14. GREAT FUN! Let's get the Catholics and the Protestants fighting!

(Need a source)

15. Huh? Did you say something?

(Need a source)

16. If I repeat this enough times some folks will be fooled into thinking it's true.

(Need a source)

17. Playing dumb.

(Need a source)

18. Refusing to answer because your ATTITUDE offends them.

(Need a source)

19. (Let's see if they'll fall for the 'Defend a freak' ploy.)

(Need a source)

20. And the MOST used...  IGNORE what they posted and answer the question that SHOULD have been asked.

http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=UMJvqBq_Qa8


47 posted on 03/22/2008 9:21:31 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

How can it be a second chance when there was no first chance!

You do realized you are employing your ignorance to things you do not understand!

Your man yardstick here is useless!


48 posted on 03/23/2008 2:24:52 AM PDT by restornu (The Bible has many loose ends, The Book of Mormon tidy up many of the Bible loose ends!:)
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To: Elsie
Your world tools are useless, obsolete have no bearing on spiritual things, you are book learn and still are not able to exercise enough faith to receive a witness from the Holy Spirit!

All your determination comes from earth bound limitations!

Even the Bible admonishes one to test the spirits to see if they are from God or not.

It can not be had by trying to use the finite mind

Everyday you use your finite mind to berate The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, and the Prophet Joseph Smith, by trying a method which have limited application to measure with because it is earth bound.

Until you exercise with faith using the tools of the Lord you will never be able to receive a witness from the Holy Ghost.


49 posted on 03/23/2008 2:49:09 AM PDT by restornu (The Bible has many loose ends, The Book of Mormon tidy up many of the Bible loose ends!:)
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Periscope up


50 posted on 03/23/2008 6:38:16 AM PDT by Godzilla (Today's mighty oak tree is just yesterdays nut who held it's ground.)
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To: restornu
Your man yardstick here is useless!

I'm honored; but....

"That which is wrong under one circumstance, may be, and often is, right under another. ... Whatever God requires is right, no matter what it is, although we may not see the reason thereof till long after the events transpire. ... even things which might be considered abominable to all who understand the order of heaven only in part, but which in reality were right because God gave and sanctioned by special revelation."

--Joseph Smith

51 posted on 03/23/2008 6:17:49 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
Even the Bible admonishes one to test the spirits to see if they are from God or not.
 
 
Yup!
 
It's too bad your founder was just a 14 yo, ignorant farmboy, who didn't have the sense to DO the Biblical test!

http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1/19#19
  17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!
  18 My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)—and which I should join.
  19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”
  20 He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time. When I came to myself again, I found myself lying on my back, looking up into heaven. When the light had departed, I had no strength; but soon recovering in some degree, I went home. And as I leaned up to the fireplace, mother inquired what the matter was. I replied, “Never mind, all is well—I am well enough off.” I then said to my mother,
“I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.” 
 
 

52 posted on 03/23/2008 6:24:25 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
Everyday you use your finite mind to berate The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints...

That is SO true!!!

I use my finite mind to find things the LDS Organization has publicized over the years; and I re-publish them!!

It's really quite enlightening.

Do you find enjoyment that your organization ACTUALLY did and said those things?

53 posted on 03/23/2008 6:26:46 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

So have I learned that the Presbyterian Church is not true way before I ever knew about the LDS!

It was the spirit of the Lord who told me when I read the Bible that none of the main stream Churches were in step with the scriptures and that was very disappointing and puzzling, because I ready, willing, and able to take things I read in the Bible as being for real.

Most of you like to pontificate but I have yet seen any one of you exercising the word of the Lord.

All seems so many of you practices is faultfinding, under minding, backbiting, being mean and spiteful, unkind, distorting truth, deny the Holy Spirit as a source of knowing truth and discernment, you rather trust your finite mind and print words void of the witness of the Holy Spirit!

When one can not let go and let God they really are not his, because they rather play God than to let go and to lean on the Lord!


54 posted on 03/23/2008 6:51:14 PM PDT by restornu
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To: Elsie

the Methodists dont mind if the Presbyterian Church is not true ...


55 posted on 03/23/2008 7:02:00 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Elsie

Do you ever get the feeling that mormons are talking Kolobian ????


56 posted on 03/23/2008 7:03:08 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu
So have I learned that the Presbyterian Church is not true way before I ever knew about the LDS!

It was the spirit of the Lord who told me when I read the Bible that none of the main stream Churches were in step with the scriptures and that was very disappointing and puzzling, because I ready, willing, and able to take things I read in the Bible as being for real.

I hate to have to point this out to you; again; for the umpteenth time; but your Organization does things that are not in YOUR Scriptures: namely the stuff in the Temple.

NONE of that is found in Scripture.

How then can you state that the Presbyterians are wrong without stating similarly that YOUR church is wrong?

57 posted on 03/24/2008 6:19:17 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
Most of you like to pontificate but I have yet seen any one of you exercising the word of the Lord.

Read your BoM cover to cover.

Read your D&C's cover to cover.

Read your Pearl of Great price cover to cover.

IF you find ANY temple rites in there; THEN you can safely say that YOUR church is following the Word of the Lord.

If you can't; the Holy Spirit will urge you to use your mind and find a place where God truly does reside.


May the Resurrected Light of Jesus shine into all the world!

58 posted on 03/24/2008 6:22:49 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

You have nothing to offer finite!


59 posted on 03/24/2008 7:15:37 AM PDT by restornu
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