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LDS Church announces new Historian's Press
Desert Morning News ^ | February 25, 2008 | Lynn Arave

Posted on 02/25/2008 2:38:02 PM PST by greyfoxx39

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints announced Monday morning it will establish a new imprint for publishing works relating to its origin and growth— the Church Historian's Press. "The claims the church makes are in its history," Elder Marlin K. Jensen, church historian and member of the Seventy, said. "It seems logical to have a Church Historian's Press."

Although this publishing effort may never have its own separate printing facilities, its staff and efforts will utilize those of church-owned Deseret Book initially and perhaps someday even the facilities of the church's own existing printing services too.

"We don't have a publishing plant (of our own)," he said.

The first printing project will be "The Joseph Smith Papers," a documentary series comprising up to 30 volumes.

Elder Jensen said these are "the single most significant historical project for our generation."

The "Papers" are a collection of "journals, diaries, correspondence, articles and notices," he said, "everything of a written nature Joseph Smith generated, or over which he had oversight."

-SNIP

Yale University Professor Harry S. Stout, a member of the Joseph Smith Papers' national advisory board, said the endorsement by the Records Commission is important. "It conveys the commission's conclusion that the staff and procedures of the Joseph Smith Papers meet the NHPRC's rigorous scholarly standards for transcription and annotation and that the edition will be accurate and professional."

Elder Jensen also said the Joseph Smith Papers "underscore the great value the church has always placed on its history. This is an invitation for anyone interested in the history of the church to read the foundational documents related to its beginning and development."

(Excerpt) Read more at deseretnews.com ...


TOPICS: Current Events; History; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: churchhistory; history; lds; ldschurch; mormon
This could be quite a breakthrough according to the statement,"This is an invitation for anyone interested in the history of the church to read the foundational documents related to its beginning and development."

"It will be interesting to see how the papers are edited. If it is "everything of a written nature Joseph Smith generated, or over which he had oversight," it doesn't seem that the words of Brigham Young and suceeding prophets will be included, at least not at first.

1 posted on 02/25/2008 2:38:04 PM PST by greyfoxx39
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To: colorcountry; Pan_Yans Wife; MHGinTN; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; Osage Orange; Greg F; ...

Ping


2 posted on 02/25/2008 2:42:59 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (Bill Richardson: Billions for boondoggles; Not one red cent for Jenny Craig.)
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To: greyfoxx39
"The claims the church makes are in its history,"

They sure are!!

3 posted on 02/25/2008 2:51:19 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
 
Here would be a REALLY good place to start!!!
 
 
 

 FIRST VISION:VARIOUS VERSIONS OF VISIONS
 
Version Number 
When  Published 
Brief Description
Age 
Year
Pillar  
of  light
 No. of 
Person- 
ages
Father 
Present
Son 
Present
Question: 
Join What 
Sect?
Remarks-References 
 
1. Offical version,  written 1838,
 first  Published 1842
 (There are minor differences between the various source references,
Ensign  Jan 1985, page 14) 
   14

  1820
   yes         2 
yes 

Both spoke  
 
yes  
 
Join none 
Lucy, Hyrum, Samuel, Sophronia join the Presbyterian Church - JSH, pages 49-50, 1981 edition;
Times & Seasons, March, April 1842;
Ensign Jan. 1985, page 14;
Joseph Smith's First Vision by
Milton V. Backamn, Bookcraft, 1971, 1980, Appendix C, page 160f 
2. Dictated by Smith to F.G. Williams, Summer to Nov. 1832  14 or 15     yes  
 
      1      no  
 
yes 

Saw Lord,

He  "spoke"

No question,
told "None doeth good",
sins forgiven 
Joseph Smith's First Vision, Appendix A, page 155f 
 
 
 
3. Written by Smith,
his 1832 diary,
in his own hand
 15  
 
   yes  
 
      1  
 
   no  
 
yes 

Saw the Lord Jesus  Christ

No question,
 told sins forgiven,
all do no good 
Ensign, Dec. 1984, pages 24-26; ibid, Jan. 1985, page 11
4. Smith's diary of 1835,
recorded by
Warren Cowdery,
Nov. 9, 1835, conversation of Smith with Joshua
About 
14 
yes  
 
One, then another like unto first 
 ?  
     ? 
Second spoke, saw  many angels
No questions,
told sins forgiven,
Jesus is Son 
Joseph Smith's First Vision, Appen. B 
5. Letter form Smith to
John Wentworth,
editor of Chicago Democrat
none  
   no  
       2 

They spoke
     ?  
 
No Question  
 
Joseph Smith's  First Vision, Appendix D;
Ensign, Jan 1985, page 16;
Times & Seasons, Vol  3, pages 706-707, March 1, 1842
6. Early church leaders
Brigham Young, G.A.Smith,
John Taylor 
   15  
 
   no  
 
        1 
Saw an angel, and asked the angel
   no 
 
 
 
 
 
   no 
 
 
 
 
 
   Join none 
 
 
 
 
 
See Journal of Discourses,
  2:17;
18:239;
13:77, 78;
20:167;
12:333, 334.
 
web/firvista.html 
5-11-95, Rev 8-8-98
 
John Farkas,     Berean Christian Ministries, P.O. Box 1091, Webster, N.Y. 14580

4 posted on 02/25/2008 2:53:23 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

They can start even SOONER: using ALL of the court records with JS’s name on them from NY to Missouri.


5 posted on 02/25/2008 2:54:09 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: greyfoxx39

I wonder if they will publish the definitive book on Mountain Meadows Massacre to be written by Church Historian Richard Turley. It was promised to be published in 2002.....here we are four years later, waiting....waiting.


6 posted on 02/25/2008 3:07:12 PM PST by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: colorcountry
It was promised to be published in 2002.....here we are four years later, waiting....waiting.

It's six years later.

7 posted on 02/25/2008 3:34:21 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe

I guess math isn’t one of my strong suits! LOL


8 posted on 02/25/2008 4:40:47 PM PST by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: greyfoxx39
Just publishing B. Young's written documents.....would be a can of worms.

IMO...most rank and file mormon's have no clue of his words...

And LDS, Inc. doesn't want his words widely spread.............

Might hurt the bottom line.....

9 posted on 02/25/2008 6:21:24 PM PST by Osage Orange (Hillary's heart is darker than the devil's riding boots.................)
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To: greyfoxx39; Adam-ondi-Ahman; America always; Antonello; asparagus; BlueMoose; Choose Ye This Day; ..

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10 posted on 02/25/2008 7:43:29 PM PST by fproy2222
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To: greyfoxx39
It will be interesting to see how the papers are edited.

Samples I saw today were left side of the page was scans of Joseph Smith's hand written texts (cursive) and right side of the page was type faced.

The type faced side even had notes like "this section was crossed out indicating that it wasn't to be published" and the hand written side showed the crossed out section so it could still be read.

The only "editing" I really saw was something basically saying we think this says such and such but the penmanship is hard to read. But as before the left side still showed that section so the reader could make their own judgment.

11 posted on 02/25/2008 8:01:06 PM PST by Domandred (McCain's 'R' is a typo that has never been corrected)
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To: greyfoxx39

Comprising up to thirty volumes?

The New Testament is only comprised of twenty-five books, with relatively few words actually spoken by Christ.

It appears to me that Smith always had an inferiority complex and believed that the greater in size that his written works were, the more emphasis they would receive. Thirty books of direct translation do NOT shed greater light upon his faith system. That requires never-ending prophecy by one president of this church after another.

If Smith was alive today I would think he would be disappointed that his faith system has such a meager following.


12 posted on 02/25/2008 9:01:58 PM PST by Pan_Yans Wife
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To: colorcountry
From Amazon.com, Massacre at Mountain Meadows. It is due to be released on August 8, 2008.
13 posted on 02/25/2008 9:45:10 PM PST by Utah Girl
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
If Smith was alive today I would think he would be disappointed that his faith system has such a meager following.

How many Christians were there 170 years after the Savior was crucified?

14 posted on 02/26/2008 6:30:21 AM PST by sandude (The once influential FreeRepublic now seems destined to sink into oblivion.)
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To: greyfoxx39; Elsie; colorcountry

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUhU0HgTq94


15 posted on 02/26/2008 7:48:55 AM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwYm_mKQ3Gs


16 posted on 02/26/2008 7:57:10 AM PST by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: P-Marlowe
It's six years later.

Yet another TYPICAL Gentile tactic of half-truth!!

He KNEW that it was 6 years; yet only chose to say 4.

WHY? I ask you??

--MorminDude(We're on to you guys!)

17 posted on 02/26/2008 9:28:20 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Saundra Duffy
That was EXCELLANT!!
 

 

 
Were you there?

18 posted on 02/26/2008 9:47:44 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: sandude
There's a distinction. Christ did not author his own books that were predicated on a story of a Vision which has been altered time and again. He did not author the Word through the translation of written word in REFORMED EGYPTIAN, A LANGUAGE WHICH DOES NOT EXIST.

Christ is the WORD. BEING THE WORD GIVES CHRIST THE ADVANTAGE IN THIS TIT FOR TAT COMPETITION THAT YOU STARTED. I mean, how can you compare a mere man who needs the occult to spread his story, when the living breathing Word exists that the entire world can easily access without special garments, temple recommends, sealed marriage, etc, etc. Christ does not put these restrictions upon His Church.

It's hysterical that you want to compare the man who set up the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints to the Living Christ.

DID YOU CATCH THE FACT THAT THIS CHURCH HAS TAKEN THE NAME OF THE SAVIOR THAT YOU WISH TO COMPARE A PROPHET TO? WITHOUT THIS PROPHET'S GAMES HE WOULDN'T BE USING THE NAME OF CHRIST WHEN THE CORNERSTONE WAS LAID FOR THIS CHURCH.

Christ didn't use a Peepstone to enthrall the masses! You really are silly, sandude!

In every conceivable way Christ was unremarkable as a man. He was a carpenter, He had a family, He was a faithful Jew, He was not physically remarkable, and He lived an honorable and just life. The thing that set Him apart was His message alone and His willingness to be sacrificed because of it.

The same cannot be said for Smith. Trickery, adultery, illegal activities, and deceit followed him through his entire life. He could not have started this church without making these kind of waves... he had to fight his way to be noticed. The same cannot be said for Christ.

His Way is much more elegant and doesn't smack of that of a circus performance. He was more like finishing what had been started in the Garden of Eden, lo those many, many years ago. You know, Christ's calling was that of life and salvation. His life itself is the very definition of THE MEANING OF LIFE.

The fact that you compare the Savior to the Prophet of Mormonism shows just how skewed your viewpoint is. Do you see how ridiculous that really is? Do you realize WHO authored the Holy Bible? What ARROGANCE!

19 posted on 02/26/2008 2:16:55 PM PST by Pan_Yans Wife
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To: colorcountry

Can you point me to where I could find the lyrics for that song?


20 posted on 02/26/2008 2:18:48 PM PST by Pan_Yans Wife
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To: Pan_Yans Wife

If You Could Hie to Kolob, 284 - William W. Phelps

1. If you could hie to Kolob In the twinkling of an eye,
And then continue onward With that same speed to fly,
Do you think that you could ever, Through all eternity,
Find out the generation Where Gods began to be?

2. Or see the grand beginning, Where space did not extend?
Or view the last creation, Where Gods and matter end?
Me thinks the Spirit whispers, “No man has found ‘pure space,’
Nor seen the outside curtains, Where nothing has a place.”

3. The works of God continue, And worlds and lives abound;
Improvement and progression Have one eternal round.
There is no end to matter; There is no end to space;
There is no end to spirit; There is no end to race.

4. There is no end to virtue; There is no end to might;
There is no end to wisdom; There is no end to light.
There is no end to union; There is no end to youth;
There is no end to priesthood; There is no end to truth.

5. There is no end to glory; There is no end to love;
There is no end to being; There is no death above.
There is no end to glory; There is no end to love;
There is no end to being; There is no death above.

http://www.timesandseasons.org/archives/000530.html


21 posted on 02/26/2008 2:23:11 PM PST by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
Another interesting LDS hymn by Eliza R Snow

Oh My Father

O my Father, thou that dwellest
In the high and glorious place,
When shall I regain thy presence
And again behold thy face?
In thy holy habitation,
Did my spirit once reside?
In my first primeval childhood
Was I nurtured near thy side?

For a wise and glorious purpose
Thou hast placed me here on earth
And withheld the recollection
Of my former friends and birth;
Yet ofttimes a secret something
Whispered, “You’re a stranger here,”
And I felt that I had wandered
From a more exalted sphere.

I had learned to call thee Father,
Thru thy Spirit from on high,
But, until the key of knowledge
Was restored, I knew not why.
In the heav’ns are parents single?
No, the thought makes reason stare!
Truth is reason; truth eternal
Tells me I’ve a mother there.

When I leave this frail existence,
When I lay this mortal by,
Father, Mother, may I meet you
In your royal courts on high?
Then, at length, when I’ve completed
All you sent me forth to do,
With your mutual approbation
Let me come and dwell with you.

22 posted on 02/26/2008 2:30:28 PM PST by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
The fact that you compare the Savior to the Prophet of Mormonism shows just how skewed your viewpoint is. Do you see how ridiculous that really is? Do you realize WHO authored the Holy Bible? What ARROGANCE!

I certainly was not comparing Joseph Smith and the Savior. I was asking you to compare growth rates. Plain and simple.

23 posted on 02/26/2008 2:46:36 PM PST by sandude (The once influential FreeRepublic now seems destined to sink into oblivion.)
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To: colorcountry

Thank you much for both sets of lyrics.

Fascinating, really.


24 posted on 02/27/2008 10:27:01 AM PST by Pan_Yans Wife
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