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Paris Mosque and Catholic Univ to train imams (what the heck alert!)
tvnz ^ | October 2, 2007

Posted on 10/03/2007 6:14:47 AM PDT by NYer

The Paris Grand Mosque and the city's Catholic university are teaming up to offer university education for imams to promote moderate Islam and help integrate foreign-born Muslim prayer leaders in France. The privately-run Catholic Institute of Paris will launch a two-semester course on French politics, law and secularism in January for future imams studying Islamic theology at the Grand Mosque, officials of both institutions told Reuters. France has tried for several years to boost imam training.

The Sorbonne and public university in Paris declined to take on the task because they said it violated the legal separation of church and state. The Catholic Institute courses will be given by the social and economic sciences faculty and not include any theology, the faculty dean Francois Mabille said. "We have no vocation to train imams religiously, that is the responsibility of the Grand Mosque," Mabille said.

"The students will take political sciences courses on democracy, human rights and the French republic." Boubakeur said a meeting on Saturday of about 110 students of the Grand Mosque's theology institute unanimously supported the plan to link up with the Catholic Institute. "This is an important innovation in Muslim education here," he said.

"The students appreciated that there was no religious teaching but only courses in the social sciences faculty." 

Concern about radical islam

The five million Muslims in France form the largest such minority in Europe and it has long argued it needed to train home-grown imams to integrate its second-largest religion and inoculate it against radical Islam coming from abroad.

There are about 1,200 imams in France and many lead prayers and offer spiritual and practical advice to the faithful with little or no formal training.

Three-quarters of them are not French citizens and one-third do not speak French.

The government has long been concerned that these imams pick up radical ideas, sometimes on short courses in Muslim countries such as Saudi Arabia, and spread them in France.  

The Union of French Islamic Organisations (UOIF) has run a small school for imams for the past 15 years, but the government is wary of its more orthodox views and prefers to work with the more moderate, Algerian-backed Grand Mosque.

The Grand Mosque's theology institute, which teaches the Koran, Islamic law and Muslim history in a three-year curriculum, is not accredited to grant university degrees.

With this new course, student imams with two years of university study will earn a bachelor's degree from the Catholic Institute after completing the course and writing a thesis.

The Sorbonne university almost took in student imams two years ago, but the faculty council scuppered the plan.

Student protest stopped the second bid to launch this hybrid curriculum at a University of Paris division in the northern suburbs.


TOPICS: Catholic; Islam; Theology
KEYWORDS: imams; mosque; paris

1 posted on 10/03/2007 6:14:53 AM PDT by NYer
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To: NYer

Train them to do what? Recant the Warlord Mohammed’s death cult and return to the original Biblical text?


2 posted on 10/03/2007 6:16:27 AM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...
Sans paroles
3 posted on 10/03/2007 6:16:44 AM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: NYer
Three-quarters of them are not French citizens

They don't need to spend money to keep them from becoming radicalized in Islamic Supremacist nations.

They need to deny the radicals entry in the first place.

4 posted on 10/03/2007 6:19:24 AM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: NYer
The article indicates that the Catholic Institute is teaching these prospective imams about French history and law.

It doesn't suggest that a Catholic school is instructing people in Islam or training them to be Muslim clerics.

5 posted on 10/03/2007 6:23:00 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: weegee
Dear weegee,

“Train them to do what?”

Did you read the article? This is what they will be taught:

“The students will take political sciences courses on democracy, human rights and the French republic.”

The goal is to train imams in a moderate form of Islam. By teaching them about French democracy, secularism, human rights, etc., I imagine the hope is that these imams will learn to subordinate the bloodthirstier aspects of their religion.

In that there are 5 million Muslims in France, it may not be such a bad idea to attempt, since success would significantly benefit wider French society.

This isn’t about a Catholic university training imams religiously:

“We have no vocation to train imams religiously, that is the responsibility of the Grand Mosque.”


sitetest

6 posted on 10/03/2007 6:24:24 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest
Hey, there! You're not supposed to read the article, and you're definitely not supposed to let the facts get in the way of a good rant. This is FR! There are standards to uphold, here!

;'}

7 posted on 10/03/2007 6:27:01 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Mea culpa.

;-)


8 posted on 10/03/2007 6:28:27 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: weegee
They need to deny the radicals entry in the first place.

Neither the "privately run" Catholic Institute of Paris, nor the Catholic hierarchy have any capability of denying radical mohammedans entry into France. That is the purview of the French government. I believe it is currently under the leadership of a man named Sarkozy; you might want to take the issue up with him.

Given that the government is allowing these individuals entry, the efforts of the Catholic Institute to train them in civilised behaviour is laudable.

9 posted on 10/03/2007 6:30:42 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: sitetest
I'm sure you'll be mentioning it at your next confession ...

;'}

10 posted on 10/03/2007 6:33:07 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

LOL!


11 posted on 10/03/2007 6:39:03 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: NYer

I took a tour of Georgetown last summer.

The tour guide spoke glowingly of his internship with Schumer and, despite not one person asking about the Catholic heritage of GU, he told us about a dozen times that one can go to Georgetown and never notice its Catholic heritage-except for the crucifixes on the walls.

He also told us that for the first time GU has a full-time Imam on staff. Full-time! Drawing a full-time salary while families pay over fifty grand a year for their children to attend.


12 posted on 10/03/2007 8:14:18 PM PDT by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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