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Lutherans Urged To Accept Gay Clergy
ap on cbsnews.com ^ | 8/11/07 | Rachel Zoll - ap

Posted on 08/11/2007 2:06:09 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

(AP) A national assembly of Evangelical Lutherans urged its bishops Saturday to refrain from defrocking gay and lesbian ministers who violate a celibacy rule, but rejected measures that would have permitted ordaining gays churchwide.

Still, advocates for full inclusion of gays were encouraged, calling the resolution a powerful statement in support of clergy with same-gender partners. The conservative group Lutheran CORE, however, said bishops will now feel more secure in ignoring denomination policy.

The 538-431 vote came on the final day of a weeklong meeting in Chicago _ and after emotional debate over how the denomination should interpret what the Bible says about homosexuality.

Like other mainline Protestant groups, the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America has been struggling for decades to reconcile differences on the issue. An ELCA task force is near the end of an eight-year study on human sexuality, which is expected to culminate in the 2009 release of a social statement that will heavily influence church policy.

The assembly voted to refer proposals on ordaining gays and blessing same-sex couples to the task force so the panel can make policy recommendations part of its report.

The current clergy standards require ministers to "abstain from homosexual sexual relationships." Earlier this year, Bradley Schmeling, an ELCA pastor in Atlanta, was removed from the clergy roster after he told his bishop that he was in a relationship with a man. However, even before Saturday's vote, liberal-leaning bishops had refused to enforce the rule.

In the adopted resolution, the assembly "urges and encourages" bishops to either refrain from or "demonstrate restraint in disciplining" ministers who are in a "mutual, chaste and faithful committed same-gender relationship."

"This is huge," said Phil Soucy of Lutherans Concerned/North America, which lobbies on behalf of gays and lesbians. "More than half of the people in the Churchwide Assembly have said don't punish anyone for what is a simple violation of the policy, where the offense is simply that they have a partner."

At the Chicago gathering, dozens of gay and lesbian ministers and congregants defiantly proclaimed their sexuality. They distributed a prayer booklet that included first-person essays on the pain of being forced to choose between ministry and a lifelong partner. Theological liberals believe that the overarching message of Scripture is full acceptance for all people.

But Jaynan Clark Egland, president of the conservative WordAlone Network, said the resolution "leaves the ELCA with inconsistent patterns of discipline and standards."

Conservatives believe the Bible bars gay relationships. "To refrain from discipline in the home is bad parenting, but we're about to do so in Christ's Church," Egland said.

Lutheran CORE scheduled a September meeting to plan its next step. But the Rev. Mark Chavez of WordAlone says conservatives aren't planning a split from the denomination.

Membership in the 4.8 million-member ELCA, like other mainline churches, has declined over the last two decades; only 30 percent of Evangelical Lutherans attend worship weekly.

The 2.5 million-member Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod, based in St. Louis, believes the Bible is literally true and does not ordain gays.


TOPICS: Mainline Protestant; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: accept; elca; gayclergy; homosexualagenda; homosexualclergy; lutherans; religiousleft; urged

1 posted on 08/11/2007 2:06:11 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Welcome to the lie of the depraved...


2 posted on 08/11/2007 2:13:40 PM PDT by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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To: NormsRevenge
What they are really voting on here is whether they actually believe the Bible is the inerrant word of God. Let’s not ignore the obvious.
3 posted on 08/11/2007 4:14:16 PM PDT by joebuck
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To: NormsRevenge
"mutual, chaste and faithful committed same-gender relationship."
4 posted on 08/11/2007 4:17:27 PM PDT by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
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To: ichabod1

As always, please note there is an alternative to the ELCA, the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod (LCMS), which still believes in the Bible. The ELCA is a liberal conglomeration of dying churches formed about 20 years ago.


5 posted on 08/11/2007 7:20:02 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: kaehurowing
Thanks for pointing this out......from a card-carrying member of the conservative Lutheran Church Missouri Synod.

On Christ, the solid Rock, we stand.......all the ELCA conniving wordsmithing is but shifting sand.

Leni

6 posted on 08/11/2007 7:29:04 PM PDT by MinuteGal (Three Cheers for the FRed, White and Blue !)
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To: NormsRevenge

I foresee an upsurge in Tiber swimming in the near future.


7 posted on 08/11/2007 8:28:06 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: MinuteGal

Although I’m a Presbyterian, my son goes to a Lutheran high school sponsored by the local LCMS churches. It’s a wonderful Christian school, and I have nothing but the highest respect for your denomination. It’s really given me peace of mind now that my son is in this school.


8 posted on 08/12/2007 6:04:59 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: NormsRevenge

Having abandoned God’s laws, they advise this church to likewise abandon their own rules.

The enemy’s servants are consistent, if nothing else.


9 posted on 08/13/2007 7:56:04 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: NormsRevenge

ELCA has been dead for a long time now.


10 posted on 08/13/2007 7:57:13 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (concerning His promise.....not willing that any (of whom?) should perish but that all...)
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To: kaehurowing
As always, please note there is an alternative to the ELCA, the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod (LCMS), which still believes in the Bible. The ELCA is a liberal conglomeration of dying churches formed about 20 years ago.

There are other Lutheran Denominations that would be considered historical confessional Lutheran Churches. What the ELCA won't tell you is that it has lost hundreds of churches over the last few years to the LCMS and a new body - LCMC. The ELCA calls the losses minor, but some of its largest congregations have left. Also, internal "reform" movements are getting frustrated and discussing more about departing the ELCA.

11 posted on 08/13/2007 8:05:27 AM PDT by 11th Commandment
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To: NormsRevenge

ELCA and AEC (ECUSA) will merge someday. They’ve already got joint churches and bishops.


12 posted on 08/13/2007 9:51:48 AM PDT by polymuser (There is one war and one enemy.)
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