Global warming is the only true religion, cleverly combining
hell, fire and damnation with unlimited wasteful spending on
Democratic consultants and other leftist control freaks. /sarc.
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Hey, what did you expect, he wants to bring back traditional Catholicism. I’d rather have someone like him as head of the Catholic Church than some smarmy Vatican II droid. At least now we can drop all this ecumenical BS and get back to being Protestants and Catholics again.
PS I’m Protestant (and proud of it).
PSS Let’s hope the current Pope’s tough stance against the Protestant CHURCH means he is going to take an even tougher stand against the Islamofascists. Time will tell.
I would have a lot more to say than that to the pope!
Those who worship the Lord must worship Him in Spirit and in Truth. Those are Jesus' words, and it's obvious that those who add willy-nilly things like Assumption, Immaculate Conception, and Coredemption of Mary to the Christian faith are doing nothing different than what Joseph Smith did with the Mormons. They've got their own little book for their sect, and so do the RCs....these "traditions" they've accumulated over the years like barnacles on a ship. (Someone clean the crust off.)
"Holy Orders" have no value. I can probably find by google search in a matter of minutes any number of so-called "priests" who were received lock, stock, barrel, wives & kids from other denominations that were just proclaimed unworthy.
This guy speaks out of both sides of his mouth, he's an unfaithful witness, and to listen to him is wasted air time.
It's time for DrE to call him the anti-christ again. :>)
“Bishop Wolfgang Huber, head of the Evangelical Church in Germany, said the Vatican document effectively downgraded Protestant churches and would make ecumenical relations more difficult.”
- on the contrary, i believe it will help ecumenism. The BS ecumenism that is around today (particularly in Germany) causes each faith group to reduce its beliefs down to nothing in attempt to please the other party - i have seen this first hand. Only when each faith group firmly proclaims its faith can true ecumenism be possible and believing your church is the true church is part of that.
I used to hear that term from my aunt. they are not proper catholic. she didnt’ consider me married because I got married in the methodist church. I left the church with my parents when I was 13. only been back for funerals. The catholic church is so tunnel visioned on importing the third world to keep their membership up, that I cannot stomach being a member there.
I am trying to understand why the catholic church is doing so much protestant bashing.
So are all the mormon haters beginning to see what is like to be hated because of what some believe to be false teaching? I guess everyone is mormon these days.
LOL
RESPONSES TO SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING CERTAIN ASPECTS
OF THE DOCTRINE ON THE CHURCH
What is the meaning of the affirmation that the Church of Christ subsists in the Catholic Church?
Response: Christ “established here on earth” only one Church and instituted it as a “visible and spiritual community”[5], that from its beginning and throughout the centuries has always existed and will always exist, and in which alone are found all the elements that Christ himself instituted.[6] “This one Church of Christ, which we confess in the Creed as one, holy, catholic and apostolic […]. This Church, constituted and organised in this world as a society, subsists in the Catholic Church, governed by the successor of Peter and the Bishops in communion with him”[7].
In number 8 of the Dogmatic Constitution Lumen gentium ‘subsistence’ means this perduring, historical continuity and the permanence of all the elements instituted by Christ in the Catholic Church[8], in which the Church of Christ is concretely found on this earth.
It is possible, according to Catholic doctrine, to affirm correctly that the Church of Christ is present and operative in the churches and ecclesial Communities not yet fully in communion with the Catholic Church, on account of the elements of sanctification and truth that are present in them.[9] Nevertheless, the word “subsists” can only be attributed to the Catholic Church alone precisely because it refers to the mark of unity that we profess in the symbols of the faith (I believe... in the “one” Church); and this “one” Church subsists in the Catholic Church.[10]
Third Question: Why was the expression “subsists in” adopted instead of the simple word “is”?
Response: The use of this expression, which indicates the full identity of the Church of Christ with the Catholic Church, does not change the doctrine on the Church. Rather, it comes from and brings out more clearly the fact that there are “numerous elements of sanctification and of truth” which are found outside her structure, but which “as gifts properly belonging to the Church of Christ, impel towards Catholic Unity”[11].
“It follows that these separated churches and Communities, though we believe they suffer from defects, are deprived neither of significance nor importance in the mystery of salvation. In fact the Spirit of Christ has not refrained from using them as instruments of salvation, whose value derives from that fullness of grace and of truth which has been entrusted to the Catholic Church”[12].
Fourth Question: Why does the Second Vatican Council use the term “Church” in reference to the oriental Churches separated from full communion with the Catholic Church?
Response: The Council wanted to adopt the traditional use of the term. “Because these Churches, although separated, have true sacraments and above all – because of the apostolic succession – the priesthood and the Eucharist, by means of which they remain linked to us by very close bonds”[13], they merit the title of “particular or local Churches”[14], and are called sister Churches of the particular Catholic Churches[15].
“It is through the celebration of the Eucharist of the Lord in each of these Churches that the Church of God is built up and grows in stature”[16]. However, since communion with the Catholic Church, the visible head of which is the Bishop of Rome and the Successor of Peter, is not some external complement to a particular Church but rather one of its internal constitutive principles, these venerable Christian communities lack something in their condition as particular churches[17].
On the other hand, because of the division between Christians, the fullness of universality, which is proper to the Church governed by the Successor of Peter and the Bishops in communion with him, is not fully realised in history[18].
Fifth Question: Why do the texts of the Council and those of the Magisterium since the Council not use the title of “Church” with regard to those Christian Communities born out of the Reformation of the sixteenth century?
Response: According to Catholic doctrine, these Communities do not enjoy apostolic succession in the sacrament of Orders, and are, therefore, deprived of a constitutive element of the Church. These ecclesial Communities which, specifically because of the absence of the sacramental priesthood, have not preserved the genuine and integral substance of the Eucharistic Mystery[19] cannot, according to Catholic doctrine, be called “Churches” in the proper sense[20].
The Supreme Pontiff Benedict XVI, at the Audience granted to the undersigned Cardinal Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, ratified and confirmed these Responses, adopted in the Plenary Session of the Congregation, and ordered their publication.
Rome, from the Offices of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, June 29, 2007, the Solemnity of the Holy Apostles Peter and Paul.
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I’d call this a papal smear.
Big deal!
Headquarters in SLC says the same thing.
**the branches of Christianity formed after the split with Rome at the Reformation could not be called churches “in the proper sense” because they broke with a succession of popes who dated back to St Peter.**
Says it all in a nutsehll!
Ping
Well, I am VERY pleased that the Pope is dedicated to his faith. I hope he will instruct the Roman Church to take the lead in evangalizing all the Muslims in the ME and bringing them to Christ.
Why isn't this headline published. :-)
With each break-off denomination trying to get a closer read on the Bible is the reason you get such a variety. Just as each Christian's walk is different some being stronger and some being weaker the deal is it is a choice and wisdom and discernment comes in to play.