KofC Ping List Owner Needed

Vanity ^ | 4/1/07 | AlanInSA

[AlaninSA]

I've found less and less to like about posting on FR - especially due to the wide-spread (and mod-condoned) anti-Catholicism. I'm spending little time on this website. It is no longer appropriate that I maintain the KofC ping list. I will post the ping list, post the graphics that have been used and do this no more.

[AlaninSA]

Please FReepmail _________ if you'd like to be added to or removed from the KofC ping list.

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[Frank Sheed]

Alan--

It's a sad state of affairs when the keeper of a list of "practical Roman Catholics," the largest Roman Catholic fraternal organization in the U.S., Canada, Mexico, the Philippines and now even in Poland, decides to give it up because of the anti-Catholicism prevalent on Free Republic.

I too have seen it, and get numerous Freepmails alerting me to "fires" on threads trashing our Religion. Just yesterday, Petronski and others went toe to toe with a group of bigots. The issue is, is it worth it?

I don't want to keep the list. I am not going to survey the threads each day looking for the classic "Jack Chick" references in disguise. If the K of C ping list dies, so be it. I would ask the simple question, is that good for Free Republic?

Bill Donohue of the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights is correct. Anti-Catholicism is indeed the last acceptable prejudice.

F

[Petronski]

I would ask the simple question, is that good for Free Republic?

Put another way, if the mods and management are happy with the current state of affairs, is a KofC list even worthwhile? Given the tone of moderation, Catholics are slipping close to the category of "undesirables," IMHO.

[Frank Sheed]

I will not question your assessment and hope others on the K of C Ping List respond. It would be good to get a consensus on how they view matters.

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[GinaLolaB]

People who are in other religions are so jealous of Roman Catholics. I remember once on FR a Catholic poster explained to me that people of other religions are threatened by Catholicism because it so appealing and they are afraid that their followers will become Catholic. That is why they lash out at us.

[AliVeritas]

Have courage, it wasn't easy for our Lord. Praying for us all.

[Logophile]

I've found less and less to like about posting on FR - especially due to the wide-spread (and mod-condoned) anti-Catholicism.

The anti-Catholicism you cite is evident and unfortunate. Some FReepers are not content to state their own beliefs; they feel the need to attack the beliefs of others. Worse, in an effort to score cheap debating points, some will bear false witness, misrepresenting the beliefs and practices of other faiths.

The moderators have a difficult task. They want to allow free discussion while weeding out abusive postings. I do not believe that they condone anti-Catholicism; when in doubt, they err on the side of free discussion.

[phatus maximus]

I agree with you...I'm not a Catholic and don't pretend to be but the posts that some of the non-Catholics put on here are shameful and it's sad. Personally I try to ask questions to better understand the RCC/EO perspective to compare/contrast what I believe.

IMHO, the best thing every poster no matter what faith or creed being subscribed to is to be decent. I'm sure i've failed from time to time, but that's truly what's needed.

All that being said, I have been the recipient of anti-Lutheran rants before so it does cut both ways. When that's happened I've tried to express that while I may disagree with the point being discussed, I am willing to defend my faith respectfully and move on...I hope we all can continue to do so in the future and have edifying conversation in a civilized fashion...

Blessing to you in Christ this day...

PM

[My2Cents]

From the disclaimer on FR's homepage:

Please enjoy our forum, but also please remember to use common courtesy when posting and refrain from posting personal attacks, profanity, vulgarity, threats, racial or religious bigotry, or any other materials offensive or otherwise inappropriate for a conservative family audience.

It would just be nice if the Mods here were consistent and observed their own code of conduct in policing posters. No wonder viewership on FR is dropping like a stone.

[walden]

I was raised Episcopalian but am in the process (very slow, for me) of becoming Catholic. Can you tell me of Catholic discussion websites that would help me learn more? Thank you.

[Suzy Quzy]

God Bless You.

[livius]

I'll try to think of some good Catholic websites or blogs that would be interesting. In the meantime, I'm pinging NYer, who knows everything, and some recent FR converts from the Episcopal and other churches. Best wishes and may Our Lord be with you.

[RetSignman]

Religions, of all denominations, are ridiculed, insulted and demeaned on a daily basis by the democratMSM, it is shameful that this attitude has crept into this forum.

God sees and hears all.

[markomalley]

I'm sorry you feel that way. I can't blame you at all. It is not a little ironic that you make this announcement on the week of Our Lord's Passion.

Isa 53:2b he had no form or comeliness that we should look at him, and no beauty that we should desire him.

Isa 53:3 He was despised and rejected by men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief; and as one from whom men hide their faces he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

Isa 53:4 Surely he has borne our griefs and carried our sorrows; yet we esteemed him stricken, smitten by God, and afflicted.

Our Lord was reviled far more than the anti-Catholics on Free Republic could ever do to any or all of us.

When we have to bear our tiny little portion, we should keep in mind the words of Saint Paul:

Col 1:24 Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and in my flesh I complete what is lacking in Christ's afflictions for the sake of his body, that is, the church…

Not a one of us has been killed, jailed, or beaten for our beliefs. Sure, we get spit upon occasionally for our beliefs on this site, but compared to what our Lord enduresd for us, it is utterly insignificant.

[rambo316]

It is sad to see this go, Brother. I am a Knight here in the Hudson Valley, NY and it is sad to see this. I have become less interested in FR of late and that is for many reasons but this tops all of them. In life, Alan, as you probably are already aware of, there are a lot of anti Catholics in our midst and that is very sad. God Bless you Brother and take care.

[siunevada]

Perhaps Rom 8: 16-17 also makes a similar point:

The Spirit itself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God,
and if children, then heirs, heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ, if only we suffer with him so that we may also be glorified with him.

This weekend we heard from our pastor that a former associate pastor had a cross burned in the lawn in front of the rectory of his current parish. In this world, things can be more immediate than a few jibes from FR posters.

Be that as it may, best to you, Alan.

[Frank Sheed]

http://www.catholic.com/

Welcome, FRiend, on your journey! This site above has discussions and a Forum thread. It is edited by Karl Keating.

There are a great many other sites that are gems. I would never overlook Dave Armstrong's website:

http://ic.net/~erasmus

Another great site is the Jimmy Akin blog (just search the subject)

http://www.jimmyakin.org/

Finally, I have links to the Church Fathers if you Freepmail me.

"Ubi ergo Petrus, ibi Ecclesia: ubi Ecclesia, ibi nulla mors, sed vita aeterna."

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[faq]

I can only remember reading one disturbing anti-Christian post on this web site. So, I went back and looked, and you were the one who posted it.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1808153/posts?page=23#27

[AnAmericanMother]

You know, I'm usually pretty even-tempered about this stuff, but things like this are really totally out of hand.

The moderator did finally zot the worst offender, but even the original post is offensive and full of falsehoods. And the thread has caused the anti-Catholics to gather like jackals, posting the usual lies that have been refuted over and over again (the guy who is convinced that the Pope personally approved the extermination of Croatian Jews and posts the same false information every time he appears has just showed up.)

One really gets tired of knocking down the same tired falsehoods over and over again.

[right-wingin_It]

I was raised Episcopalian but am in the process (very slow, for me) of becoming Catholic. Can you tell me of Catholic discussion websites that would help me learn more? Thank you.

IMO, any place where they highly regard Bishop Fulton J. Sheen and our current Pope's is not a bad place to start.

I mention Bishop Sheen specifically, because he has a series of talks for people (those deciding or recent converts) who perhaps aren't aware of the reasons why Catholics do what they do. It's called "Life is worth Living" series, and although it was recorded in the 50's or 60's, it's completely relevant to today world. The man had a great foresight then about how things would so rapidly deteriorate to our current situation. These talks simply give a Catholic reasoning on the Christ, the Trinity, the Mass, the Sacraments (all of them individually discussed), the Priesthood, our Commandments, the world, love, marriage, the human soul..etc. He has also written plenty of books out there.

You can listen to his talks (mp3) on the web here

[right-wingin_It]

Oops..Clarifying:

I was raised Episcopalian but am in the process (very slow, for me) of becoming Catholic. Can you tell me of Catholic discussion websites that would help me learn more? Thank you.

IMO, any place where they highly regard Bishop Fulton J. Sheen and our current Pope's is not a bad place to start.

I mention Bishop Sheen specifically, because he has a series of talks for people (those deciding or recent converts) who perhaps aren't aware of the reasons why Catholics do what they do. It's called "Life is worth Living" series, and although it was recorded in the 50's or 60's, it's completely relevant to today world. The man had a great foresight then about how things would so rapidly deteriorate to our current situation. These talks simply give a Catholic reasoning on the Christ, the Trinity, the Mass, the Sacraments (all of them individually discussed), the Priesthood, our Commandments, the world, love, marriage, the human soul..etc. He has also written plenty of books out there.

[walden]

Thank you to everyone.

[narses]

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Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to all note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of interest.

[TradicalRC]

18 If the world hate you, know ye that it hath hated me before you. 19 If you had been of the world, the world would love its own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. 20 Remember my word that I said to you: The servant is not greater than his master. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you. If they have kept my word, they will keep yours also. 21 But all these things they will do to you for my name?s sake: because they know not him that sent me. 22 If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not have sin: but now they have no excuse for their sin. 23 He that hateth me hateth my Father also. 24 If I had not done among them the works that no other man hath done, they would not have sin: but now they have both seen and hated both me and my Father. 25 But that the word may be fulfilled which is written in their law: they hated me without cause.

26 But when the Paraclete cometh, whom I will send you from the Father, the Spirit of truth, who proceedeth from the Father, he shall give testimony of me. 27 And you shall give testimony, because you are with me from the beginning.

John 15:18-27

The Douay-Rheims Bible

[Coleus]

I can do it if nobody wants to. I'm on the FR almost every day. The catholic bashing may get to me some day too. I try not to read it and not get involved. A lot of these freepers are drive-by posters. I think some are jealous and are on the outside looking in only wishing to enter but can't for fear of being ostracized by their community and family.

[narses]

Please do. Share if you wish the burden, although I am not a Knight (yet).

[La Enchiladita]

I am going to join in on the advice offered to you, because I also aspire to become Catholic.

I have been Christian all my life and left the Episcopal church after 20 years as a member. The Catholic Church is perfect for me.

[Sun]

"People who are in other religions are so jealous of Roman Catholics. I remember once on FR a Catholic poster explained to me that people of other religions are threatened by Catholicism because it so appealing and they are afraid that their followers will become Catholic. That is why they lash out at us."

I agree.

I especially hear Catholic bashing on shortwave radio. Those people have been brainwashed.

The Catholic religion is the religion that Jesus started.

I heard a man speak on the CATHOLIC shortwave station, EWTN, and he used to be a Baptist, and converted to Catholicism, because he realized it is the true religion.

[SuzyQue]

I'm surprised that you say this. I would have to say that I find that the opposite is often true. I think that Catholic Freepers are sometimes condescending and/or hostile to non-Catholics.

Can you point out some specific instances of an anti-Catholic bias?

[sockmonkey]

Hey, Walden, I see you are in Texas. Not sure where in TX you are, but TX has several Roman Catholic Parishes which are Anglican Use Parishes- The Anglican Use Parishes were Episcopalian Parishes which joined the Catholic Church corporately.

http://www.pastoralprovision.org has a list of them. Our liturgy is based on the 1928 Book of Common Prayer.

My Parish is in San Antonio. My Priest was an Episcopalian Priest, who was allowed by JPII to become a Catholic Priest.
The Parish website is:
http://www.atonementonline.com
My Priest has a great blog at:
http://www.atonementparish.blogspot.com/

[narses]

There has been a long and often close relationship between
the Anglican and Catholic Churches. In certain situations
there remains a mutual recognition of the validity of key
doctrines, liturgies, and practices. And the Catholic
Church continues to hold the faith and moral teachings as
taught by the Apostles.

I understand that there is also an Anglican Use liturgy
within the Catholic Church, wherein the Book of Common Prayer
is used for the Mass (with minor updates). So there is no need
to lose the liturgy Anglicans may be familiar with.

Resources for those interested in the Catholic faith:

Catholic Answers
www.catholic.com
A superb site for clearing away the myths propagated by too many.
Offers free on-line library that examines all the major issues,
free on-line archive of over 1,500 hours of radio/audio material,
plus magazines, books, pamphlets, tracts, videos, and more.

Coming Home Network
www.chnetwork.org
Provides fellowship, encouragement and support for Protestant
pastors and laymen who are somewhere along the journey or
have already been received into the Catholic Church.

Biblical Evidence for Catholicism
www.biblicalcatholic.com
Dave Armstrong's monster site. Eclectic, fun, exhaustingly
detailed, personal, moving, and more.

And may God bless your journey where ever it takes you.

posted on 08/05/2003 5:19 PM PDT by polemikos

[StAthanasiustheGreat]

Three posters come immediately to mind. I won't name them, because then courtesy dictates I should ping them, and I do not wish them here based on what so many other threads have become.

[narses]

We crossed, so to speak. +

[SuzyQue]

I think you just made my point.

Also, people in America are free to practice whatever religion or permutation thereof, that they choose. If Catholicism is indeed so appealing to people of other Christian denominations, those people are free to try to become Catholic, are they not? No one is stopping them.

And, a third point - perhaps Christianity should not be talked about as a popularity contest.

[SuzyQue]

OK - I will take your word for it.

[StAthanasiustheGreat]

But you are right, at times, charity is not shown on either side.

[SuzyQue]

Yes, but I thought we were on the same side.

[Salvation]

**Anti-Catholicism is indeed the last acceptable prejudice.
**

Our priest gave and outstanding homily today entitled, "Open Season on Jesus".

When it gets posted to our church website, I will send out the link.

[Sun]

The antiCatholism that I hear on shortwave is pretty bad, and filled with lies (not all shows, of course, but far too many).

I used to listen to the shows because they were pro-life and conservative in many ways, but one by one, I boycotted their shows.

On the other hand, Dr. Richard Land, a Southern Baptist praises Catholics on their pro-life stance on his radio show.

All pro-life Christians should stick together.

[Salvation]

**is a KofC list even worthwhile? **

Yes, someone has to keep speaking up for Catholics. Please don't let this list languish.

[Cicero]

I'm sorry for your discouragement.

The history of Protestantism, of course, is that it split off from, or revolted against, the Catholic Church. It used to be common for Protestants of all kinds to say that the Pope was Antichrist and that the Catholic Church was the Whore of Babylon.

There's still some of that attitude around, but a LOT less than there was. In particular, there has been a good deal of cooperation between Catholics and Evangelicals in recent years, because they have found themselves on the same side on many issues: the right to life, the importance of marriage and family, to name two.

The curious thing is that you never know when something you say on one of those wretched threads may break through and start somebody thinking. Not, perhaps, the person you are arguing with, but maybe somebody else.

People have a tendency to get their backs up and get more stubborn in an argument. But it can never hurt to keep repeating the truth. Somebody has to do it.

I'm an irregular contributor to these Catholic threads, so maybe I shouldn't talk. But I have often found them of interest and instructive.

[Salvation]

**People who are in other religions are so jealous of Roman Catholics. **

Absolutely!

Paraphrasing here:

"When you deny me before others I will deny you before my Father; when you praise me before others, I will praise you before my Father."

[Salvation]

Great picture.

[Salvation]

**, the best thing every poster no matter what faith or creed being subscribed to is to be decent. **

I think you have the key here!

[Sun]

PC for everyone, except for Christians - ESPECIALLY Catholics.

I don't watch the show "Law and Order", but I have heard that they bash pro-lifers, Christians, particularly Catholics.

Has anyone who watches the show, noticed this?

[Salvation]

Catholic Exchange
Scripture Catholic
Catholic forum
Fisheaters
Women of Faith and Family
Spirit Daily
Catholic Answers
Doctors of the Catholic Church
Little Pictorial Lives of the Saints
Catholic Culture
StayCatholic

This should be a good list for starters! LOL!

And hit the Daily Readings each day -- I post a lot of material on each thread. Also have many links. Freepmail me if you want references.
Our Lady's Warriors

And last of all -- Welcome home!

[Clemenza]

Personally, I would love to get the ping list, as I have family in the K of C, as well as the Masons.

Of course, I would be the wrong guy to handle the list. My god is an Indian that turns into a werewolf.

[Barnacle]

Anti-Catholicism is indeed the last acceptable prejudice.

Indeed it is. Take heart and stand fast.

Mat 5:10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

[DBeers]

try Catholic Online Forum

The forum is well moderated AND run by a priest residing in Rome