Posted on 05/25/2006 7:14:13 PM PDT by Full Court
Those were the days, weren't they. I remember looking forward to Sunday. So few go to Sunday School anymore. When I was a kid, almost everyone went. *sigh* My friend who is a pastor gave some statistics on how few of the younger generations know about Gideon, Noah, Daniel and Jonah. If it weren't for people like you, they might never hear.
Joseph, Daniel - two of the great dream interpreters - were two of my favorites. Wow! Such stories, and such lessons about dealing with adversity.
Of course, in the summer VACATION BIBLE SCHOOL!!
Church, kids, and cookies!!
You go to yours every day, and you visit the other churches.
Also a great story.
Joshua and Jericho.
Jacob wrestling with the angel.
Jonah and the whale.
What wonderful stories.
The only controversy seems to come from those more interested in sowing discord.
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A very true statement, imho. Sadly.
I love a variety of modern translations. Thankfully, I also love the KJV having been reared on it. But the KJV with ESL students in China and other parts of Asia is beyond silly. It's haughty and a bit cruel and very stupid to try and use the KJV with such an audience.
My current reading is in THE MESSAGE By Petersen sp? and I love the nitty gritty earthiness which seems to best parallel the originals on that score of all the modern translations.
Qx on JM's comp
The 'addicted to KJV' perspective still boggles my mind.
Reminds me of a perspective 2,000 years ago about the religious PhD's of the time pontificating at length about how anyone not utterly slavish to THEIR long lists of elaborations on the law had just grossly missed it and were AT LEAST in danger of hell fire.
The Almighty I know has never fit in such tiny tidy ticky tacky little boxes.
Then one night a week, there was a lady near the school that had Wednesday night Bible School. I went there too.
I still love VBS. Our church has an ice cream sundae social outside on friday after the closing program in the evening. I love getting hugs from all the kids and talking about all they learned and the crafts they made. I always hope that the love and the memories bring them back.
I have to go to bed but I wanted you to know that I enjoyed the chat.
Ain't that the truth. If I'd known this was a "my Bible's better than YOUR Bible" thread, I would have avoided it like the plague.
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The title should have given it away. There are those hereon who will gravitate to any thread even remotely close to speaking about Scripture such that rants can be shoehorned in about the quality of the translation involved. That quickly rushes into the KJV pontifications and the fierce attacks on all other translations.
Reason, as well as brotherly love flies out the window at the speed of light.
I love the KJV. My memory of Scripture is in the KJV. When I search at the websites, I have to search in KJV because that's what I remember verses in.
but I do not WORSHIP the KJV.
And, just as reading Scripture in another language is enlightening, so is every different translation. God's Word is plenty robust to faithfully convey what we need to know to have a growing close relationship with Him and make Heaven our home and treat others as we should.
Prissy-ness about other issues comes across to me as just that--or worse--paragonly petty prissy-ness.
I think God must groan in grieved tears over such, when He isn't laughing at such foolisness.
I don't like some of the modernized World Council of Churches flavor of some translations. And sometimes too many verses or issues seem much too watered down for my theology.
But I can spit out the bones.
And the better modern translations are quite clear enough on the Deity of Christ and all the other major doctrines of the faith.
God has been faithful to protect His Word sufficiently that it accomplishes what He wants in about any good modern translation that exists.
imho, of course, Qx on JM's computer
Do you know why the KJV uses "thee, thou, ye, your, thine"? It's actually quite important. And it's a clue why NOBODY EVER interprets Romans 8:28 correctly.
Discord can only be sown by those who seek to destroy the Word of God, not by those who proclaim it's significance!
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My construction on reality is NOT that
BIBLIOLATRY = proclaiming the significanceof God's Word. To me it comes across much more as proclaiming the idolatry, personal preferences and intellectually dressed ego needs of individuals most slavishly fawning over the KJV. I personally think that whole movement is a very--at best--misguided trick of the enemy that ends up wholesale detracting from God's Word and making the KJV folks look and sound . . . enormously less than attractive to the Biblically unschooled. And therefore, many just throw up their hands and say forget-it about reading The Bible, at all.
Qx on JM's comp
Are you suggesting that Jesus actually spoke in Shakespearean English, hence the 1611 translation's distinct verbiage?
And he spoke it very slowly...with a British accent...
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And further more, if you do NOT do so with exactly and precisely the SUPER TRULY TRUEST TRUTH TRULY FAITHFUL AND MOST LOFTY BRITISH ACCENT, then you are obviously not kosher, not studied enough, probably not saved and are likely on your way to hell. So there! harumph. /sar
It's just another, and not even that good, opinion.
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NOW, NOW! You canNOT say that! It's not kosher! It's heresy! Don't you know that Moses brought down from Mt Sinai on 150,000 mules the whole KJV on stone tablets? What an evil, destructive heretick you must be! /sar
I find THE MESSAGE far from tepid.
Hey, we used to get gold stars in Sunday School for that kind of answer! Nice job.
I prefer the KJV for the same reason I prefer Tennessee Ernie Ford singing gospel tunes. Because that's what I learned.
Sure I know. Why do you ask? The KJV should not the sole source of anyone's knowledge. Understanding how the Bible got here and understanding what it meant to those who first wrote it down is a process that takes decades and goes well beyond reading any version of the Bible.
LOL.
I like Tennesee Earnie, too. And, I love the beauty of the KJV.
But the KJV ALSO misses it in a number of places.
What is HOLY SPIRIT FOR? PARTLY TO !LEAD US! INTO ALL TRUTH--including Scriptural truth particularly!
And THE MESSAGE version has helped me feel much closer to THE FATHER as well as THE SON.
No one said the message is tepid. The language used in some of the versions is tepid. It's easy to comprehend what I wrote, unless one specializes in fighting straw men.
I don't advocate that people only read the KJV. I said that's what I learned with, that's what MY Bible is. I have other versions. I like NIV, too. But I love my KJV.
The lessons are what matter anyway.
You are right, of course.
I was springboarding off your comment more than replying to it. Sorry. I really should be more clear when I do that. Bad habit. I haven't really been very annoyed at all by your posts.
Thanks.
Qx on JM's computer. Still can't get Anti-Crash to run right, if at all. Sigh.
I was at church on Mother's Day with my mother, and during the sermon, I leaned over to her and asked her if I could put my head in her lap and let her clean my ears out with a bobby pin. She did that sometimes during the sermon many decades ago.
We had a good snicker.
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