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What Scientology needs most is to be ridiculed (South Park)
Timesonline ^ | 03/21/2006 | Michael Gove

Posted on 03/21/2006 8:35:16 PM PST by Panerai

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To: Panerai

I don't care what anyone says, South Park is the best cartoon of all time. And despite his common racist attitudes, Cartman is the best cartoon character of all time. But it still wouldn't be the same without Chef's innapropriate songs of advice. Not to mention his parents, whose stories are infamous for including the lochness monster and a sum of "tree-fitty."

So, a message for Isaac Hayes:

When it comes to religious ridicule, you can dish it out, but you can't take it.


21 posted on 03/21/2006 9:09:13 PM PST by NavySon (Hillary Clinton: Communism by any other name...)
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To: PJ-Comix
There's a lot here, perhaps you'd be kind enough to point me in the right direction?

Thanks.

The History Of The Decline And Fall Of The Roman Empire
By Edward Gibbon

Contents
Preface

I/ The Decline And Fall In The West ( Chapters 1 - 38)

II/ General Observations Of The Fall In The West

III/ The Decline And Fall In The East ( Chapters 39 - 71)

A Vindication Of Some Passages In Chapters 15 and 16

22 posted on 03/21/2006 9:13:30 PM PST by the anti-liberal (Hey, Al Qaeda: Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent)
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To: Redbob

The scientologists don't discuss certain parts of it - the volcanoes, the aliens, etc. If they're so sure of it all, why not be up front.


23 posted on 03/21/2006 9:21:18 PM PST by The Worthless Miracle ("Better put some ice on that")
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To: NavySon
"So, a message for Isaac Hayes:

When it comes to religious ridicule, you can dish it out, but you can't take it."

Sad huh?

24 posted on 03/21/2006 9:23:29 PM PST by Jonx6
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To: the anti-liberal

Check the index of the BOOK. I don't happen to carry it around in my mind. BUT Gibbons has some VERY FUnnie things to say about Islam.


25 posted on 03/21/2006 9:28:30 PM PST by PJ-Comix ((Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List for the FUNNIEST Blog on the Web)
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To: The Worthless Miracle
From what I understand, most don't believe that stuff about their little cult. They think this is the slander that is being spread about their precious L. Ron Hubbard, who was such a whack-job--and dangerous one at that--that he was on the FBI and CIA watch lists for years. They don't learn the special little secret about Scientology until they reach a certain level, and by that point, the member is so entrenched that they will believe anything. And the ones that do run away screaming are blackmailed or worse. Usually, they end up in hiding. Very scary outfit.
26 posted on 03/21/2006 9:34:17 PM PST by Shelayne
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To: the anti-liberal
I'm reposting this because the links in the first were relative to the parent directory. Here it is again:

The History Of The Decline And Fall Of The Roman Empire
By Edward Gibbon

Contents
Preface

I/ The Decline And Fall In The West ( Chapters 1 - 38)

II/ General Observations Of The Fall In The West

III/ The Decline And Fall In The East ( Chapters 39 - 71)

A Vindication Of Some Passages In Chapters 15 and 16

27 posted on 03/21/2006 9:36:37 PM PST by the anti-liberal (Hey, Al Qaeda: Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent)
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To: PJ-Comix
"Check the index of the BOOK."

Well, there's a lot online, I'm sure if I tool around enough I'll come across an index. Thanks.

28 posted on 03/21/2006 9:37:58 PM PST by the anti-liberal (Hey, Al Qaeda: Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent)
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To: Redbob

How do you know that ?


29 posted on 03/21/2006 9:40:26 PM PST by fatima (Just say it if it is for love-have no regrets.)
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To: PJ-Comix

Gibbons also believes that Christianity was one of the main causes of the downfall of the Western Empire.


30 posted on 03/21/2006 9:44:14 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: PJ-Comix

"Most likely Isaac Hayes was BLACKMAILED by the Scientologists into quitting SP."

Spot on. Scientology Inc. probably told Hayes that he would be cast out of their cult FOREVER if he didn't abandon South Park. Either that, or they have some serious dirt on him.

Either way, you are probably right!!!


31 posted on 03/21/2006 10:14:32 PM PST by Emmet Fitzhume ("Never do what your enemy expects you to do.")
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To: Redbob

One of the funniest parts of the episode was the credits. Everyone was listed as "John Doe." Great!


32 posted on 03/22/2006 5:38:51 AM PST by upier (Stop Child abuse - Teach your children English!)
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To: Emmet Fitzhume
Scientology Inc. probably told Hayes that he would be cast out of their cult FOREVER if he didn't abandon South Park

Not seeing the threat here.

33 posted on 03/22/2006 6:06:14 AM PST by Oztrich Boy ("If you go out there with an innocent heart, you're eaten." - David Attenborough)
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To: bourbon

Scientology whackos bump!

These folks are beyond whacko, though.


34 posted on 03/22/2006 7:55:08 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: Redbob
No real need to ridicule "Scientology;" just tell folks the truth about it:

Couldn't have said it better myself.

35 posted on 03/22/2006 12:19:41 PM PST by Robertsll
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To: Panerai

I remember the days when no one dared even spell out Scientology on the net, for fear of being set on by it's lawyers.

Plus there were/all these "Scientologists Anonymous" sites where folks could post negative stuff and feel safe from retaliation.

Wow, we've come a long way.


36 posted on 03/22/2006 12:23:11 PM PST by najida (I hate bullies- God, man or beast, it doesn't matter.)
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To: NavySon
When it comes to religious ridicule, you can dish it out, but you can't take it.

On The Situation with Tucker Carlson, one of Tucker Carlson's lesbian buddies he has on the show actually stated she will not go after and attack scientology out of fear of what may happen to her.

In the next breathe, she was slamming Christians over the "gay issue" (homosexual agenda), saying in effect, "I am not afraid of Christians."

It was pathetic.

37 posted on 03/22/2006 3:59:42 PM PST by Robertsll
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To: najida
Wow, we've come a long way.

We most certainly have.

38 posted on 03/22/2006 4:00:49 PM PST by Robertsll
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To: Panerai
Except for that "this is what Scientologist" actually believe part this was a pretty dull episode. I had to switched channels every time R Kelly sang (it was painfully unfunny).

Is the new episode of South Park about "the return of Chef"??? (I guess thats the joke, unless the joke is that Hayes really didn't leave the show and its just stunt)
39 posted on 03/22/2006 4:08:25 PM PST by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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To: Redbob
That it was invented on a dare over many beers at a SciFi writers' convention, by L. Ron Hubbard, who claimed - accurately, as it turns out - that he could invent a religion and, no matter how bizarre, actually get people to "believe" in it.

It's actually more interesting than that. In the late 1940s, Hubbard was tight with Jack Parsons--one of the founders of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory and a follower of Aleister Crowley's crackpot Thelemic religion. From a recent bio of Parsons:

"It is hard to ignore certain similarities between Crowley's Thelema and Hubbard's Scientology. Both religions have as leaders charismatic men with logorrheic tendencies. Both preach that man is an immortal spiritual being, that his capabilities are unlimited, and that his spiritual salvation depends upon his attainment of a "brotherhood with the universe." While Thelema was born of the Old World, however, Scientology was distinctly a product of the new. The OTO rose out of the Victorian fascination with mysticism, magic, and the secret societies of Europe. Scientology was a direct product of the twentieth century's childlike trust in scientific knowledge, the success of scientific fantasy, and the Californian desire for self improvement."

40 posted on 03/22/2006 4:22:12 PM PST by Heyworth
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