Posted on 11/01/2005 5:44:29 PM PST by NYer
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Thanks. I just began RCIA a few weeks ago, and I am scouring the net, gobbling up any information I can find on the Church.
A little off subject but I recall back in first grade that another classmate had received the Eucharist before we had made our First Holy Communion the following year. Oh boy - I never seen the nuns run around in such hysterics nor had I during my 12 years of Catholic schooling. I never knew what became of the incident but I surely was never to try that stunt as the seriousness in the nun's faces told the sacredness of it all. It left such an impression on me, that to this day, I still recall the little girl's name after all these years.
Thanks for the article.
That must have been quite a few years ago :-) It's rare to find nuns still teaching in the schools, much less ones who are that serious.
Like you, I retain similar memories from pre VCII days when the nuns taught us. We were 50+, confined to the same classroom with the same nun all day. Bless these humble servants for their nerves of steel and handy rulers ;-D.
Welcome Home!
You have landed in good company. I maintain a catholic ping list for those interested in events and stories about the church. Please freepmail me if you would like to be added to the list (which I highly recommend :-).
Here's something you probably won't learn in RCIA. The Catholic Church is both Western and Eastern. As most of us realize, the Church began in the East. Our Lord lived and died and resurrected in the Holy Land. The Church spread from Jerusalem throughout the known world. As the Church spread, it encountered different cultures and adapted, retaining from each culture what was consistent with the Gospel. In the city of Alexandria, the Church became very Egyptian; in Antioch it remained very Jewish; in Rome it took on an Italian appearance and in Constantinople it took on the trappings of the Roman imperial court. All the churches which developed this way were Eastern, except Rome. Most Catholics in the United States have their roots in Western Europe where the Roman rite predominated. It has been said that the Eastern Catholic Churches are "the best kept secret in the Catholic Church."
The Vatican II Council declared that "all should realize it is of supreme importance to understand, venerate, preserve, and foster the exceedingly rich liturgical and spiritual heritage of the Eastern churches, in order faithfully to preserve the fullness of Christian tradition" (Unitatis Redintegrato, 15).
I attend a Maronite Catholic Church. The Consecration is in Aramaic, using the words and language of our Lord at the Last Supper. Communion is ONLY distributed by the priest. It is by intinction (the priest dips the consecrated host into the Precious Blood) and is ONLY received on the tongue. The priest administers communion with the words: "The Body and Blood of our Lord Jesus Christ is given to you for the remission of sin and eternal salvation".
A Roman Catholic may attend the Divine Liturgy at any Eastern Catholic Church. You can learn more about the 22 different liturgies at this link:
If you post your home town, it's possible that some of the other catholic freepers can help you on your journey. We have several members who have already swum the Tiber and still others who, like you, are midstream. Should you have any questions, please do not hesitate to freepmail me. If I can't answer it, I promise to put you in touch with someone who can.
Pax et Bonum
Glad it "took".
Welcome aboard . . . from a recent Tiber-swimmer (from the Episcopagans).
When I was baptised into the OCA I was encouraged to go for confession the week following my baptism.
While in Catholic school I received communion for years, it wasn't until 7th grade I was informed I wasn't supposed to. I wasn't even baptised in fact at the time.
Welcome! I was an Episcopalian before joining the Church a few years back.
When I had my first Confession, I was *terrified*! All I kept thinking was, 'I have thirty-odd years of SERIOUS sins to confess!!' I thought maybe I should have scheduled a few hours with the Priest. LOL While I was going in, the church secretary saw me and later told me that I looked as if I was heading to the gallows.
Thankfully, it wasn't bad at all. In fact, I felt VERY good afterwards. At peace.
I know it sounds strange to say, but reconciliation is one of the most wonderful sacraments, IMO.
After Mass one Sunday I asked the rector when I should come for confession. He said in his Irish brogue, "Ah, just come at the usual time."
"But Monsignor, I'm 42 years in arrears - this is going to be the Mother of All Confessions."
"Ah, don't worry. There'll be plenty of time," with an adumbrated wink, "there aren't many sinners in this parish!"
I'm sure I looked like I was riding the tumbril myself, and spent a good part of the time in tears (me the tough old courthouse lawyer < g > ) . . . but the priest was very patient and I felt SO much better afterwards.
Nothing can compare to auricular confession. I'm sure you agree that the Episcopalian General Confession doesn't cut it. You don't have to actually examine your conscience and enumerate your sins . . . it's like a Day of National Repentance, you can kid yourself that YOU don't actually have anything to repent for.
Yours too?!! Lol! Father, recognizing the 'saintliness' of our parishioners, now schedules 2 Reconciliation services each year. These are truly beautiful with readings and the Gospel, followed by a series of introspective questions intended to examine the conscience. After this Father plants himself in the confessional and we take turns.
As a parish, we are truly blessed with many saints! There are so few who show up at these Reconciliation services. Actually, acclaiming those who don't show up as saints is a misnomer. Most saints are well aware of their human failings and attend Confession on a weekly basis :-).
I think a lot of folks just can't make it to the Saturday 4:30 p.m. scheduled weekly confession. With the very best will in the world, I try to make a monthly confession, but what with sports practice, family activities out of town, work, dog trials, etc. I sometimes come panting in and find the priest has already left! If it were offered between the two main services on Sunday, or more frequently, I think there would be more frequent participation.
Me too. In tears, I mean.
Nothing can compare to auricular confession. I'm sure you agree that the Episcopalian General Confession doesn't cut it. You don't have to actually examine your conscience and enumerate your sins . . . it's like a Day of National Repentance, you can kid yourself that YOU don't actually have anything to repent for.
I so agree. There is nothing like listing your sins. Out Loud. To another human being. It's a very difficult act, to examine your own conscience. I guess it's just a reminder to us mortals how low we really are.
My favorite saint is Teresa of Avila, so you'll understand why I see humans as craven, utterly hopeless beings who are still loved infinitely by God despite our countless flaws. :)
You are obviously not in the sanctified diocese of Albany NY.
Thank you for posting such good news. It truly warms my heart and soul to know that outside this arrid desert of a diocese, true catholicism flourishes. I always enjoy your posts! How is the dog?
Our pastor does something like that...although he gets several other priests in the area to help him. He does this during Advent and during Lent. If he doesn't think enough people come to the sessions, he will hold another one...and the week before Christmas and the week before the Triduum, he stays in the confessional for about five hours a day.
In the year and a half since he's been here, he's had to increase the confession period by a half hour because the number of people went to two or three a week until it was getting difficult to hear everybody. I had had to ask him to hear mine after Saturday night mass because he ran out of time!
And we have 20 people in our RCIA (maybe double those of last year) and 23 kids in the special sacraments class.
Devotion, adoration, and taking it seriously make a real difference. Church lite doesn't do anything like the real thing.
I'd like to see her complete that title and get her Seasoned Hunting Retriever title before we retire her from competition. Then she can just hunt ducks and dove for her own amusement.
And my son has discovered that if you shoot a chipmunk with an air rifle, the dog is perfectly happy to go out and retrieve it for you and deliver it to hand. The dog has gone way up in his estimation.
Welcome to the Church, from another former episcopagan! I wasn't sure what to do at my first confession, but I realized that a litany of many years of all sorts of sins was not the answere - it would have taken all night! I think the important point is that serious sins are confessed and genuine repentance from them be clear.
I have a question. I may be a little slow sometimes but I don't quite understand the article. You see my cousin is going through RCIA program right now. Now she has been baptized but she has no records and admitted that she is not sure what was said during the baptism since it has been so long ago. So she requested to be baptized again. That being said could she go to confession now? Or does she have to wait for easter vigil?
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