Posted on 07/18/2005 4:52:18 PM PDT by A2J
Luther also added the line "by faith only" to the translation of the Bible.
What about the proponents of the King James Bible?
They thought they were doing good.
But, in essence, they left things out that contradict many Protestant theories by leaving out the books of the Bible they did. Have you ever researched that?
i don't have Luther phobia as you say.
Luther, Zwingli and Calvin were supporters of the doctrine of perpetual virgininity of the Blessed Virgin Mary.
Credit is where credit is due.
So you want folks to name names on who they think hurt the Church the most? What kind of research is this??
No, just some conversations with some people in the hierarchy of the Church who study such things. One thing for sure, Luther was deep into knowledge of religious matters. The collected works of Luther take up two shelves in the local library, and it is very heavy and authoritative reading. He would have been a respected scholar in any case.
OK, just wondering because I have seen no evidence that anyone was considering him for the chair of St. Peter. He wasn't that far up the latter of theologians even if the Cardinals were looking for a theologian for the Holy See.
Be became much more famous after he started bucking Rome and the local Princes found an excuse for foreclosing on Church property.
***Nowhere does the Bible teach that it is the only and sole source of divine revelation.****
That's not what Sola Scriptura defines. Sola Scriptura relates to the sufficiency of the Scriptures to bring one to salvation and to guide them in a life pleasing to God. (And scripture quite clearly teaches that.)
****Advocates of sola scriptura have diametrically opposing interpretations of scripture. For example: Baptists believe in adult only baptism;****
And in most cases the Protestant denominations have major agreement on the major doctrines and minor differences on the minor ones. For example - all believe (excluding modernists)in the Diety, birth, death and resurection of Jesus, Trinitarian faith, etc...
*** Thanks to Martin Luther, there are now 30,000+ protestant denominations each claiming to have authentic teaching.***
Come on NYer! This untruth doesn't get any better with age!
I know you've seen it rebutted before....
30,000 Protestant Denominations?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/756707/posts
I don't know how old he was when he posted his list of grievances. If he hadn't picked that course of action he might have continued to rise in the ranks, and possibly have gone far. His action was upsetting, probably moreso because he had excellent prospects.
I'm curious too. Why should we help this joker? Let him do his own church bashing research.
****He also brought about translating the Bible into the language of the people, and at the same time encouraged scholars to learn the old languages of Latin and Greek so they could read the material for themselves.****
This is a bad thing??????
To some, yes. I think it was a great idea. That was Adam's task in the Garden, to sit and think. We should all do that, but unfortunately now we have to scratch the ground, etc. Still, we should spend some time reflecting if we can find the time away from the shovel.
He was 34.
Most of the people who had a problem with reading the Bible in the vernacular and scholarly study of the Scriptures in the original languages have been dead for 400 years or more.
Luther was not the first to publish the Bible in the common language of the area. His scheme just needed many Bibles published so he had a lot of them published.
It wasn't just the Scriptures. People started reading Greek philosophers and pre-Christian Romans too. Next thing you know there were Lutherans everywhere.
"It wasn't just the Scriptures. People started reading Greek philosophers and pre-Christian Romans too."
hehe, Like Thomas Aquinas :)
Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Paul, Timothy, Titus...
They discovered Aristotle and next thing you know there were scientists. The incident with Thales of Miletus and the oil-presses then encouraged the field of professional philosophy. It's been downhill ever since.
One of my favorite stories from Antiquity! A brief account is here.
On topic: the person who did most damage to the Church? No contest: Constantine the Great.
Actually, no, but, as someone posted earlier, most heretics were probably well meaning in that they thought they were offering something that would help the Body of Christ but, unfortunately, ended causing trouble.
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