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I WILL SHAKE AND ROAR [GOD'S RESPONSE TO TERRI SHAVIAO TREATMENT]
BILL SOMERS' WHAT'S NEW PROPHETIC SITE http://www.etpv.org/whatsnew.html ^ | 1 APR 2005 | JUDY CURMI

Posted on 04/17/2005 8:06:49 PM PDT by Quix

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To: Quix
Demonic beings were released on 9-11. They are full of mischief and hungry for destruction.For those who don't believe heres some photos.http://www.attackonamerica.net/faces.htm Scary stuff.Fasten your safety belt, it's gonna be a bumpy ride. Pray earnestly for guidance ,its getting late.Don't let your heart wax cold.
41 posted on 04/18/2005 9:44:49 AM PDT by rubofthebrush (Satan has useful idiots)
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To: xJones

The world has always spurned the warnings of prophets. Nothing new here.

It's not just Terri Shiavo. That case got the media attention for a reason: to promote physician assisted suicide and euthanasia. Since the story is still warm it's a convenient vehicle for the larger message. Now the Schiavo story will soon be forgotten, just like so many other tragedies. Who remembers any one abortion? Who remembers the death of any one soldier? Outside their immediate family, probably nobody, really.

There is no such potential for reporting on religious persecution of Christians. That doesn't mean God does not hear their cries. When the "shaking and roaring" comes it will be because of all these abuses, and the article touches on some of them.


42 posted on 04/18/2005 9:50:48 AM PDT by donbosco74 (Sancte Padre Pio, ora pro nobis, nunc et in hora mortis nostrae. Amen.)
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To: Dominick

http://www.hannity.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-218.html

The Clearwater Bar Association is delighted with Judge Greer's performance in this particular case. They presented the John U. Bird award to the Pinellas-Pasco Circuit judge on May 15, 2004. This prestigious award, which is the Clearwater bar's highest honor for a judge, was granted to Judge Greer for the way he has handled himself while overseeing the Terri Schiavo case!

The "judicial competence" that Judge Greer has exhibited in his handling of the Terri Schiavo case is clearly the kind that ignores evidence and even Florida statutes in order to uphold Scientology doctrine—which requires the deletion of "social contagions" (the disabled) from society. It is no coincidence that a Scientology attorney—who was a lead attorney in the Lisa McPherson case—personally bestowed this award to Judge Greer. Greer's decisions to consistently rule in favor of terminating a disabled person do reflect high ideals—in the sight of Scientology.

One of Scientology's major goals is to change society's views about death, dying, and those L. Ron Hubbard considered to be "past the half-way point": the disabled.

Scientologists believe (1) that a disabled person is in such a state due to his or her own failings, (2) the disabled person will deliberately move in the direction of death, and (3) disabled people (Individuals who score low on the emotional tone scale) will also bring death to those around them. (See L. Ron Hubbard's book, Self Analysis, chapter 4)

Scientology teaches that if a person is disabled it is his or her fault. Terri has been falsely represented as being disabled due to self-induced vomiting which supposedly caused a potassium imbalance that resulted in a cardiac arrest. Medical records have disproved these claims, but these "facts" were presented in the court record and are still being promulgated via the media today. The truth is that Terri suffered serious injuries, (including a head and neck injury and numerous broken bones). An exceptionally competent neurologist testified (that Michael Schiavo's attorneys predictably attempted to discredit) stated that Terri's injuries are consistent with strangulation:

Dr. William Hammesfahr, Nobel prize nominee and neurologist, testified that Terri's neck injuries are consistent with only one type of injury: that of strangulation.

CAN YOU SEE ANY "ROT" YET?


43 posted on 04/18/2005 10:22:52 AM PDT by donbosco74 (Sancte Padre Pio, ora pro nobis, nunc et in hora mortis nostrae. Amen.)
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To: donbosco74
CAN YOU SEE ANY "ROT" YET?

Demonic Rot? This is rotten, but not of the type this person is alluding to. It is also not any different that the trash going all over this nation. Saying Florida is possessed by demons or has demonic rot, or children here are disappearing because of our failings in government is oversimplifying evil from supernatural sources, and the evil which lurks in mens hearts.

If you are going to post a link, post the original document. Saying the Clearwater Bar is Scientology owned is fine, but the proof is on you to show it. Posting alike to a forum to a blog is not an original source.
44 posted on 04/18/2005 11:10:14 AM PDT by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: Dominick

Hey, I don't want to believe it either, and I don't live in Florida.


45 posted on 04/18/2005 11:31:23 AM PDT by donbosco74 (Sancte Padre Pio, ora pro nobis, nunc et in hora mortis nostrae. Amen.)
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To: rubofthebrush

That's a good link there. I had seen all these images, but never all in the same place. Thanks.


46 posted on 04/18/2005 11:37:16 AM PDT by donbosco74 (Sancte Padre Pio, ora pro nobis, nunc et in hora mortis nostrae. Amen.)
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To: donbosco74
Hey, I don't want to believe it either, and I don't live in Florida.

If you can find an instance of "Demonic Rot" anywhere in Christian tradition, and not made up by a person wishing to promote a ministry on the corpse of a woman murdered by her husband, you are welcome to your belief. People making up things doesn't save a single soul. When you tell tales like this you not only put your own soul in peril, because we are judged on what we preach, but more so, you put other people's souls on the line, because when they find that little pious white lie is false they start denying other things you may have said.

So this really isn't about Terri Schiavo. It is about telling the truth. Making up prophecy about Florida being possessed is a form of spiritual murder which is far worse.
47 posted on 04/18/2005 12:05:07 PM PDT by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: Dominick

Of course Florida isn't the only state to be racked with these problems. It just seems that way, due to the high-profile child abduction/murder cases lately, and due to the Terri Schiavo murder.

The Florida DCF has had severe internal problems for a decade now, and no one seems to be doing anything about it.

The Florida hospices are owned and operated by shady, greedy characters. Thousands of elderly innocents are being starved to death in these hideous places.

When a state gets this rotten, look to the highest state suthority. That would be Governor Jeb Bush.

I hope he has no presidential aspirations, because true conservatives will shoot him down (metaphorically speaking) in a New York minute.


48 posted on 04/18/2005 12:52:13 PM PDT by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: sinkspur

Whether it’s Terri Schiavo or Karla Fay Tucker, some people like their women in cages, The Almighty is behind it all, in this case He’s bundling the hypocrites (Matthew 13:30).


49 posted on 04/18/2005 12:56:30 PM PDT by Jeremiah Jr (T.O.E. = Unification = Echad!)
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To: Palladin
When a state gets this rotten, look to the highest state suthority. That would be Governor Jeb Bush.

I would disagree. I think you have to look at how this state was run for years since reconstruction, that would be the Democratic Party. All these laws has been in place for years, and just now the MSM "notices" in order to tar a republican.

This is exactly how things have played out, first she is nearly killed by her Husband, the MSM uses this to tar the conservative, and make pro-life look like a bunch of yahoos, people are trucked in to pose for the cameras here in Pinellas Park, and now, the election and poll numbers are manipulated so we can return to the loving sane arms of Hillary in 2008.

You should actually hear Jeb speak, and not just the snippets CNN may play. You would have no doubt where he stands in this mess. People who exploit things for this kind of gain make me sick.
50 posted on 04/18/2005 12:58:31 PM PDT by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: Jeremiah Jr
Whether it’s Terri Schiavo or Karla Fay Tucker, some people like their women in cages,

A truly insipid remark, unworthy of Free Republic.

51 posted on 04/18/2005 4:07:29 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
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To: sinkspur

YEP....just tryin' to be nice.


52 posted on 04/18/2005 4:35:20 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: Dominick

Spiritual murder! That sounds like a pretty serious accusation. That sounds like the work of a devil.


53 posted on 04/18/2005 4:57:23 PM PDT by donbosco74 (Sancte Padre Pio, ora pro nobis, nunc et in hora mortis nostrae. Amen.)
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To: SwordofTruth

I don't believe the guilt is the conviction of Holy Spirit.

Goid knows your heart.

Praying was the most powerful thing you could do.
The die was cast.

It was fitting for all to do what fell to them to do.

But the die was cast. The evil forces and evil goals have been progressing as much by the will of the average citizen as by the demonic forces.

Millions of people have been choosing death over life. Terri was "merely" the punctuation, the exclamation point--in a very personal, human, public way--of such horrors.


54 posted on 04/18/2005 8:09:36 PM PDT by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING ITS POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: ksen

Our time/space dimension has always been a somewhat encapsulated . . . sphere of a particular kind of free will, as it were.

With God's law of love etc. written on our hearts and satan removed from influencing . . . Live Abundant; Joy abundant will reign vs death.

That's plenty cause for rejoicing, imho.


I do believe that intelligence above a certain level affords a measure of free will in at least some respects, regardless--but what do I know. From God's perspective, lots of things must be different.


I would be causious about throwing rocks at God.

He does happen to be THE BOSS.


55 posted on 04/18/2005 8:15:53 PM PDT by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING ITS POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: SweetCaroline

He has to be grieved . . . and at some point, wrathful to see our response to His Son and His priorities.


56 posted on 04/18/2005 8:17:55 PM PDT by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING ITS POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: SweetCaroline

You might consider praying about wasting your fingers on some . . . critters and their pontifications.

Given your wisdom, I suspect there are much better recipients available for most of your gems of wisdom.

It's a lesson I'm slowly learning but trying to catch up on. LOL.


57 posted on 04/18/2005 8:22:15 PM PDT by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING ITS POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: rubofthebrush

I think you have some very accurate insights.


58 posted on 04/18/2005 8:23:59 PM PDT by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING ITS POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: donbosco74

Very well said, imho.


59 posted on 04/18/2005 8:26:02 PM PDT by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING ITS POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: donbosco74

Methinks that proabably the rotten are not inclined to see rot even when the stench overwhelms their senses.


60 posted on 04/18/2005 8:28:10 PM PDT by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING ITS POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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