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White House Drug Czar Recommends Drug Testing in Schools
Associated Press ^ | Oct. 8, 2003

Posted on 10/08/2003 3:32:41 PM PDT by Wolfie

White House Drug Czar Recommends Drug Testing in Schools

Boston -- President Bush's drug czar told New England governors Wednesday that drug testing in schools would be an effective way to combat what is a growing problem of drug use among young people, especially in the Northeast.

The region's six governors and John Walters, director of the Office of Drug Control Policy, met at Faneuil Hall in an anti-drug summit focusing on New England's heroin epidemic.

New England has more people ages 12 and over dependent on illegal drugs than any other region of the nation, according to Walters.

Heroin as cheap as $4 per bag has made it easier for young people to get hooked, he said.

"This is a tool that will make a difference," Walters said of drug testing of school children. "It's time has come."

New England has placed a "national face" on the growing heroin problem, said Karen Tandy, administrator of the Drug Enforcement Administration.

"It is a big business," Tandy told the governors and the assembled audience. "You might as well be sitting at the border of Colombia in this Northeast region."

High level heroin traffickers are transporting drugs directly to New England bypassing the traditional transport route through New York City, and are marketing heroin directly to children, Tandy said.

"Colombian traffickers have created what is in effect a franchise marketing system," Tandy said.

Tandy and several governors said more federal money is needed to combat the problem.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: addiction; drugtesting; drugwar; johnwalters; teens; wodlist
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1 posted on 10/08/2003 3:32:42 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie
Citizen Recommends Drug Testing in Public Offices
2 posted on 10/08/2003 3:34:19 PM PDT by Republicus2001
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To: Wolfie
Random drug tests for Congressmen first.

Come on Congress, lead by example!

3 posted on 10/08/2003 3:34:32 PM PDT by fightu4it (conquest by immigration and subversion spells the end of US.)
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To: Wolfie
Walters is a pathetic excuse for an American.

Live free or die

4 posted on 10/08/2003 3:34:58 PM PDT by TheOtherOne
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To: All
Aww man! Enough of the fundraiser posts!!!
Only YOU can make fundraiser posts go away. Please contribute!

5 posted on 10/08/2003 3:35:08 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: Wolfie
I would go along with that if they would test the faculty first.
6 posted on 10/08/2003 3:35:56 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (Feeling my age, but wanting to feel older)
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To: Wolfie
Let's get right to it...

How about drug sniffing dogs at rock concerts?
7 posted on 10/08/2003 3:36:28 PM PDT by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: *Wod_list; jmc813; MrLeRoy
Heroin as cheap as $4 per bag has made it easier for young people to get hooked, he said.

After 60 or so years of Prohibition, they've got the price down to kiddie levels. Way to go Drug Czar!

8 posted on 10/08/2003 3:36:49 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: fightu4it
I second that. Whatever they want to do to America's children should be done first to the children of the legislators.
9 posted on 10/08/2003 3:38:01 PM PDT by thoughtomator (TANSTAAFL)
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To: Wolfie
Good Lord, they've finally done it. They've made heroin cheaper and easier to get than pot. Way to go drug warriors!
10 posted on 10/08/2003 3:39:37 PM PDT by Elliott Jackalope (We send our kids to Iraq to fight for them, and they send our jobs to India. Now THAT'S gratitude!)
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To: Elliott Jackalope
And with the Drug Czar running around saying pot is the most dangerous drug of all, he's steering the kids right to the hard stuff.
11 posted on 10/08/2003 3:41:22 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie
Hell, no
We won't go
12 posted on 10/08/2003 3:41:31 PM PDT by Lexington Green (FREE TOMMY CHONG)
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
I think the feds should just set up roving test centers that move from neighborhood to neighborhood.

All are tested. If they knock on your door and you answer, you are tested.

If you don't open the door, they come in anyway and have a look around.

Call it War on Terror and the sheeple will gladly comply.

Somebody has to "protect us"!!! /sarcasm off
13 posted on 10/08/2003 3:42:37 PM PDT by Brian S (Government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem...RWReagan)
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To: Elliott Jackalope
Good Lord, they've finally done it. They've made heroin cheaper and easier to get than pot. Way to go drug warriors!

Hell, cheaper than cigarettes.

14 posted on 10/08/2003 3:42:51 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: Wolfie
interesting concept
15 posted on 10/08/2003 3:43:33 PM PDT by GretchenEE (Liberals CANNOT be trusted with national security (excepting maybe Norm Dicks).)
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To: Wolfie
I say random drug tests on every single person recieving a paycheck from the government. Whether they are a politician, judge, attorney, teacher, or welfare recipient. If they test positive, the first time they get counseling, the second time no more checks.
16 posted on 10/08/2003 3:43:48 PM PDT by Tailback
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To: Wolfie
I can see that in some cases over limited areas as needed.
17 posted on 10/08/2003 3:44:03 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: fightu4it
Random drug tests for Congressmen first.

Oddly enough, the only time the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that drug tests are unconstitutional was when the state of Georgia tried to apply them to - you guessed it - judges and congressmen. Go figure.

18 posted on 10/08/2003 3:45:55 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie
My children do not attend these Nazi schools, but they would test them over my dead body.
19 posted on 10/08/2003 3:46:03 PM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: Wolfie
Wonderful. Now we've got another McCaffrey that's out of control and willing to walk all over the Constitution to get his job accomplished.

It's Fed a$$holes like this guy that makes those of us who don't do drugs side with the legalization campaign. These crusaders are far more dangerous than any dealer - dealers merely fill a demand, while these JBTs force you into their product (a police/nanny state).
20 posted on 10/08/2003 3:46:34 PM PDT by 11B3 (Old enough to remember the real America, young enough to fight to bring it back.)
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To: Wolfie
....After 60 or so years....

Hey youngin's, I am sick and tired of watching billions going down a hole, users going to jail, dead kids in our streets because of this lost war on drugs. We can card kids for beer and smokes but are not adult enough to make these products legal and tax them like beer and smokes and control who purchases them. Are there ways for under aged to buy liquor and ciggs, yes but it is a start. Billions wasted and lives lost are due to this failed war.

I have been thinking about this a long time. Now
21 posted on 10/08/2003 3:47:57 PM PDT by tall_tex
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To: Support Free Republic
The lion is not the thing to put on right now, read all the post about the bears and the tigers. Have you no sensitivity at all?
22 posted on 10/08/2003 3:48:25 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (Feeling my age, but wanting to feel older)
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To: Wolfie
"Colombian traffickers have created what is in effect a franchise marketing system," Tandy said.

Well,, Mr Tandy,,, if you know where its coming from,, seems to me a couple well placed daisy cutters could easily erradicate that problem almost overnight ? hmmmmmmmmm ?

23 posted on 10/08/2003 3:49:21 PM PDT by vinylsidingman
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To: Trailerpark Badass
what drugs are they going to test for? painkillers, pot, heroin, coke, vitamins? where does it start and when will it end.
the drug war is a joke, while the DEA and local agencies confiscate $100's of millions of pot the more dangerous hard stuff gets in (because the sellers are more motivated and much more dangerous).
choose you addiction just make sure it isn't pot.
24 posted on 10/08/2003 3:51:16 PM PDT by contessa machiaveli
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To: Trailerpark Badass
Good point! Cigs cost about $4.50 per pack here in Mass.Maybe it's time to switch addictions.

Massachusetts is so darned liberal is it any wonder the kids are on drugs?
25 posted on 10/08/2003 3:51:18 PM PDT by Mears
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To: vinylsidingman
Yeah, that would do a great job of shifting the suppliers elsewhere.
26 posted on 10/08/2003 3:51:34 PM PDT by Britton J Wingfield (TANSTAAFL)
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To: U S Army EOD
The lion is not the thing to put on right now, read all the post about the bears and the tigers. Have you no sensitivity at all?

Are you kidding. We cannot look at lions now because two guys got bit? That is a little over the top. What is offensive about lions?

27 posted on 10/08/2003 3:52:18 PM PDT by TheOtherOne
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To: contessa machiaveli
Some companies now test for nicotine. Not hard to imagine schools following suit.
28 posted on 10/08/2003 3:52:19 PM PDT by Britton J Wingfield (TANSTAAFL)
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To: Wolfie
Add another to the list of reasons to homeschool.
29 posted on 10/08/2003 3:53:10 PM PDT by cruiserman
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To: Wolfie
Bush better put a muzzle on this guy if he wants to stay in office.
30 posted on 10/08/2003 3:53:20 PM PDT by microgood (They will all die......most of them.)
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To: tall_tex
Speaking of billions of dollars, I read a statistic the other day that the WOsD currently costs more PER YEAR than the entire conflict in 'Nam.

And why do we work for 5 months a year to pay off our tax bill? The WOsD has a large percentage in that when you count incarceration costs, legal fees, work lost, productivity lost, the number of required LEOs, the required number of jailers, etc. What a total waste of our money, not to mention the number of low level offenders who spend hard time with real criminals and come out just like them.
31 posted on 10/08/2003 3:53:28 PM PDT by 11B3 (Old enough to remember the real America, young enough to fight to bring it back.)
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To: microgood
Hell, the last guy was pushing to test chess players.
32 posted on 10/08/2003 3:54:17 PM PDT by Britton J Wingfield (TANSTAAFL)
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To: Britton J Wingfield
Definitely not fair is the pieces are moving by themselves.
33 posted on 10/08/2003 3:55:03 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie
unless you are playing Battle Chess
34 posted on 10/08/2003 3:56:53 PM PDT by Britton J Wingfield (TANSTAAFL)
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To: Wolfie
Heroin as cheap as $4 per bag has made it easier for young people to get hooked...

How big is "a bag" of heroin? A Hefty bag?

35 posted on 10/08/2003 3:57:02 PM PDT by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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To: randog
I bet that bag would suddenly be appraised at a lot more than $4 as soon it was siezed by police.
36 posted on 10/08/2003 3:59:49 PM PDT by Britton J Wingfield (TANSTAAFL)
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To: Wolfie
White House Drug Czar Recommends Drug Testing in Schools

Field day for the ACLU!

37 posted on 10/08/2003 4:01:23 PM PDT by Reagan Man (The few, the proud, the conservatives.)
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To: Britton J Wingfield
Would not anyone to have an unfair disadvantage, would we?
38 posted on 10/08/2003 4:01:54 PM PDT by microgood (They will all die......most of them.)
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To: Wolfie
Let me guess. When they detect that a kid has used drugs they give him the boot right out of school and into a job selling drugs to his former peers. Probably part of another zero tolerance policy.
39 posted on 10/08/2003 4:03:32 PM PDT by PropheticZero
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To: Wolfie
Let me guess. When they detect that a kid has used drugs they give him the boot right out of school and into a job selling drugs to his former peers. Probably part of another zero tolerance policy.
40 posted on 10/08/2003 4:03:32 PM PDT by PropheticZero
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To: Wolfie
A few years ago at a small university in Texas, the Faculty Senate proposed such a move.

The Student Senate said "Great! You go first!"

When the faculty members found out that someone would be staring at their genitals while they urinated they dropped the whole idea.

FReedom was well served.

41 posted on 10/08/2003 4:07:02 PM PDT by LibKill (We have given the world food. They hate us. Let's give them cold steel and hot lead next time.)
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To: Wolfie; MrLeRoy
"After 60 or so years of Prohibition, they've got the price down to kiddie levels."

Well, well, well. They got the price down and they didn't have to legalize it to do it.

The one good thing will be that there will be no more crime by heroin users stealing to support their habit. Not at these prices, right MrLeRoy?

42 posted on 10/08/2003 4:07:50 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: U S Army EOD
My thoughts too!
I'm sick of the (semi-)pretty little teachers telling me that they are trying to share their life experiences with my son's class to better prepare them for the future.
Geez man, some of these ditz' look like they are still seeing tracers from the LSD they dropped last summer during a bonfire/riot in front of the student union.
43 posted on 10/08/2003 4:08:03 PM PDT by enraged
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To: contessa machiaveli
what drugs are they going to test for?

Ritalin?

44 posted on 10/08/2003 4:09:34 PM PDT by inquest ("Where else do gun owners have to go?" - Lee Atwater)
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To: TheOtherOne
I don't want to have to stay up all night trying to make up whitty comments about liberals being eaten by lions. I am afraid that is where this is going to lead. Refer back to the threads about the tigers and the bears. One low life has already insenuated by his post that Tigger was responsible for one of the attacks. He has footage to prove it even though I think it could be a possible hoax.
45 posted on 10/08/2003 4:10:05 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (Feeling my age, but wanting to feel older)
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To: PropheticZero
Let me guess. When they detect that a kid has used drugs they give him the boot right out of school and into a job selling drugs to his former peers. Probably part of another zero tolerance policy.

No, they'll divert him to an alternative school, and continue cutting resources for the good kids.

46 posted on 10/08/2003 4:10:25 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: robertpaulsen
kerpow!

I think there will always be crime assosiated with drugs, regardless of their legality. A black market encourages organized crime, though, in a way that a free market does not.

i.e., people still steak beer, or get liquored up and attack others, but the vendors aren't doing drive-by shootings anymore.
47 posted on 10/08/2003 4:11:55 PM PDT by Britton J Wingfield (TANSTAAFL)
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To: robertpaulsen
The one good thing will be that there will be no more crime by heroin users stealing to support their habit.

Yeah, and kids won't have to bug their parents so much for "allowance."

48 posted on 10/08/2003 4:12:12 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: Trailerpark Badass
Hmmm...low prices, high purity, "epidemic" levels of use. Giving up the Drug War would only mean the cops wouldn't get to bust heads anymore. Priorities, I guess.
49 posted on 10/08/2003 4:15:11 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: U S Army EOD
I would go along with that if they would test the faculty first.

There is absolutely no question that faculties should be drug-tested. There are in fact teachers that have an "it's okay" attitude about marijuana use, and tend to look the other way.

I would suspect that this attitude would be most prevelent among those who use drugs themselves.

50 posted on 10/08/2003 4:15:43 PM PDT by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
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