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Clark’s Misinformation Problem
NY Sun ^ | 10/7/03 | Thomas Lipscomb

Posted on 10/07/2003 6:54:02 AM PDT by areafiftyone

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To: Dolphy
Sorry, your comment was about Dean. You're right about Clark.

Do you see my point though? There's a strange desire for people to pick a "non-politician" for presdent, or a least someone from outside Washington. You were arguing that you can more easily judge a politician with a voting record you can examine.

Did Bush's father have a voting record besides that as VP when he ran? Were people saying he was going to be a Reagan puppet or something? (serious question I'm to young to know)
21 posted on 10/07/2003 8:59:10 AM PDT by Lefty-NiceGuy
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To: Lefty-NiceGuy
People that decide if a war is justified based on if thier party is for it are dangerous. People that think that those refugees should have been left to die, because they were Muslim or brown people, sicken me. If you've got good criticism of how some administration administered some war, it's all good. Just don't use Milosovic's talking points; they're a bit tainted.

Excellent points, exactly the points I've been making. Milosevic and Hussein both massacred thousands of people- Milo throughout what was Yugoslavia, Hussein in his own country, both acts were reprehensible, regardless of who the victims were (skin color, religion). Both were despicable tyrants, and both deserved to be clobbered.

Having said that, Weasel Clark is a lying, opportunistic lowlife that must be stopped from becoming our President.

22 posted on 10/07/2003 9:01:26 AM PDT by NYC Republican
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To: NYC Republican; Lefty-NiceGuy
First do no harm. We killed the patient in trying to heal it.
23 posted on 10/07/2003 10:36:43 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Lefty-NiceGuy
>>>>>>>There were about 500,000 refugees on the Albanian and Macedonian boarders. It was only then that the international community decided to do something, because nobody wanted to take those people in. <<<<<<<

Perhaps it is printed in the same book where fellatio is not sex.

BBC reported this THREE DAYS AFTER the bombing started

The British Defence Minister George Robertson said that numbers of refugees and internally displaced people were "increasing rapidly". "There are REPORTED TO BE be 30,000 people in the open," he said."There are reports of large numbers of refugees waiting to cross the border into Albania."

Yes, people flee when bombs fall on their heads, as the dynamics of border crossings shows.

Your 500,000 figure is bold faced lie. No wonder you have Lefty as a part of your handle.

24 posted on 10/07/2003 12:11:58 PM PDT by DTA
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To: Lefty-NiceGuy
How about Michael Badnarik, or help us finally draft L. Neil Smith. Neither really want the job, but would be infinately better than anything we've had as President for the last 70 years.
25 posted on 10/07/2003 12:14:59 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: Lefty-NiceGuy
"The MPs said Nato had made a "serious misjudgement" when the alliance failed to predict the mass expulsions from Kosovo that followed their air strikes on Serbia."

Kosovo campaign 'illegal', say MPs -- BBC -- 7 June, 2000

26 posted on 10/07/2003 6:38:05 PM PDT by F-117A
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To: Lefty-NiceGuy
"As the U.S. Air Attaché in London at the time, I saw a different war, one not so flattering or altruistic. I saw a war of underlying motives, missed diplomatic opportunities, misguided military strategies and questionable outcomes. Worst of all, the war never need happened: Milosevic conceded major U.S. demands two weeks before the war began."

Air Attache: Clinton Had a Chance to Avoid Kosovo Bombing

27 posted on 10/07/2003 6:46:52 PM PDT by F-117A
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To: NYC Republican
Cool.

Having said that, Weasel Clark is a lying, opportunistic lowlife that must be stopped from becoming our President.
Ok, here's the deal. There are lots of pissed liberals out there. They're pretty mobilized and have a serious chance of beating Bush. It is in everyone's interest to keep them from nominating some corrupt SOB.

If you tell your liberal friends "Clark is scary because of XYZ", they may just listen too you. They don't want thier campaign hijacked by some puppet. But, if you try to convince them every democratic candidate is a baby eating monster, they're going to think you're just politicing.

Could you give me an idea which other candidates have real dirt on them and scare you as much as Clark? Are there any that are clean, but just have a platform opposite yours?

28 posted on 10/08/2003 3:35:46 AM PDT by Lefty-NiceGuy
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To: Lefty-NiceGuy
Could you give me an idea which other candidates have real dirt on them and scare you as much as Clark? Are there any that are clean, but just have a platform opposite yours?

My biggest beef with Clark are his leftist policies- the ones he suddenly espouses. Waco was bad, sure, but ultimately, what I really despise about him is his parroting the ultra-liberal mantras... Trying to "out-Dean" Dean.

I don't care about dirt. I think that kind of politics is reprehensible... It's the issues that matter, and Clark is on the wrong side on all of the major issues.

29 posted on 10/08/2003 6:24:25 AM PDT by NYC Republican
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To: NYC Republican
I don't care about dirt. I think that kind of politics is reprehensible... It's the issues that matter, and Clark is on the wrong side on all of the major issues.
Cool :-), no sorry I was asking for real issues which would make even someone that agreed with the candidate's platform not trust him to stick to it.

I'll put it this way: wouldn't you rather have an honest progressive/liberal with integrity than a crook that sells out that base?

30 posted on 10/08/2003 7:53:11 AM PDT by Lefty-NiceGuy
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To: Lefty-NiceGuy
honest progressive/liberal with integrity

You're kidding, right? How many oxymorons can you fit into one sentence? I know of NO honest liberals... NONE. All they have is lies/distortions/deceipt going for them. If they were honest about all of their views, and didn't spin, they'd have about 20% of the votes, TOPS.

31 posted on 10/08/2003 8:35:44 AM PDT by NYC Republican
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To: areafiftyone; Incorrigible; Destro
Gen. "Jack D. Ripper" Clark's, clinton's and Halfbright's war was conducted against the Serbian people for the benefit of their bloodthirsty, cowardly islamist clients!!! By "the Serbian people", I mean THE CIVILIAN POPULATION!!!

The tactics of the war involved destroying or crippling the civilian infrastructure (roads, bridges, electrical power systems, workplaces that were NOT owned by New World Order multinationals, etc.), plus some groups of civilians themselves. The modus operandi of some of the NATO pilots was to bomb a bridge full of people, and then wait for others to come and help the victims. Then the pilots would bomb the bridge again to kill the rescuers!!! If anyone doesn't beleive me, look up the town of Varvarin on Google. Also look up the town of Srdilica, which suffered another horrendous clinton/KLArk-inspired civilian atrocity!!!! Neither town was anywhere near a military target!

Now the major-league war criminal KLArk is running for President, and all too many Democrat dupes are taking his bait!! They think that he is the great Democratic hope to rescue their party and lead it to victory in the next election. In reality, electing KLArk would be a MAJOR DISASTER for our whole country, and for the world!!!! The only way to top such a disaster is to elect Hillary Rodham Izetbegovic Khomeini as President!!!

32 posted on 10/08/2003 9:02:26 AM PDT by Honorary Serb
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To: NYC Republican
Yeah, I kid of figuared you'd react like that, sorry.

All they have is lies/distortions/deceipt going for them. If they were honest about all of their views, and didn't spin, they'd have about 20% of the votes, TOPS.
I'm sure there are liberals that think the same of conservatives.

Maybe I'm naive but I'm inclined to think there people on both sides that believe the crap their selling and of coarse those that are liars. Then again I'm kind of centrist.

If liberals would rather have crooked "liberals" in office than republicans and conservatives rather crooked "conservatives" than democrats, the country will be run by a bunch of crooks.

33 posted on 10/08/2003 9:11:59 AM PDT by Lefty-NiceGuy
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To: Honorary Serb
Gen. "Jack D. Ripper" Clark's, clinton's and Halfbright's war was conducted against the Serbian people for the benefit of their bloodthirsty, cowardly islamist clients!!! By "the Serbian people", I mean THE CIVILIAN POPULATION!!!

I don't think most Americans are aware of the fact that that sort of thing has been totally illegal since 1947. They apparently wanted to insure that nothing like the big bombing raids of WW-II in which 50,000 or 200,000 people got incinerated ever happened again and the Geneva conventions of 47 totally outlaw the kinds of crap which were perpetrated during the Kosovo operation. Wesley Clark, Albright, and both Clintons need to be tried as war criminals.

34 posted on 10/08/2003 10:01:16 AM PDT by martianagent
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