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Islamic chaplain is charged as spy
Washington Times ^
| 9/20/03
| Rowan Scarborough
Posted on 09/20/2003 1:41:55 AM PDT by kattracks
Edited on 07/12/2004 4:08:28 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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An Army Islamic chaplain, who counseled al Qaeda prisoners at the Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, naval base, has been charged with espionage, aiding the enemy and spying, The Washington Times has learned.
Capt. James J. Yee, a 1990 graduate of the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, N.Y., was arrested earlier this month by the FBI in Jacksonville, Fla., as he arrived on a military charter flight from Guantanamo, according to a law-enforcement source.
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posted on
09/20/2003 1:41:55 AM PDT
by
kattracks
To: kattracks
Hey, isn't Islam The Religion Of Peace? I'm shocked, shocked, and shocked a Muslim chaplain turned out to be an enemy spy! ;-) He must have been working for peace and universal brotherhood when he betrayed our country to its enemies.
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posted on
09/20/2003 1:44:05 AM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: kattracks
If I wrote what I was thinking, I would be banned.
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posted on
09/20/2003 1:53:41 AM PDT
by
Ronin
(When the fox gnaws -- smile!)
To: Ronin
You're not alone.
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posted on
09/20/2003 1:55:39 AM PDT
by
ambrose
(Free Tommy Chong!)
To: Mark17
gee, what a shocker...
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posted on
09/20/2003 1:55:53 AM PDT
by
ambrose
(Free Tommy Chong!)
To: goldstategop
The Fatherhood of god and brotherhood of man LIE.
Evolutionist-Relativism's.....LIE opposing Absolutism!!
Cain and Able......history of SIN against Jehovah!
(Romans 10:17)
Jesus 'is' the Absolute Prince of Peace!
St.John 14:6
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posted on
09/20/2003 2:01:53 AM PDT
by
maestro
To: Ronin
you don't have to write it...
we all are probably also thinking it though...
To: kattracks
Stupid is as stupid does.
Who hired this foreign agent and recommended he be given access to his friends at Guantanamo? And who are the others? There's got to be collaborators.
To: ambrose
"He studied Islam at West Point and converted to Islam and left the Army in the mid-1990s. He moved to Syria, where he underwent further religious training in traditional Islamic beliefs. He returned to the United States and re-entered the Army as an Islamic chaplain."
This sounds like a plot of many years making. He may have been engaging in espionage long before Guantanamo.
Why is the max life? Why isn't it death?
I agree with you about Tommy Chong.
Free Chong. Kill Yee.
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posted on
09/20/2003 2:05:02 AM PDT
by
jocon307
(how much trouble is THIS post going to get me in?)
To: ambrose
This should not surprise anyone who has been listening and thinking and reading what Muslims say to each other -- and what they say to us.
Islam is not like other religions. Muslims simply cannot be treated the same way because they refuse to act the same way.
What that means is that Muslims cannot be trusted as loyal Americans simply because they are NOT loyal Americans. Their allegiance is not to their country. This proves it.
If they can turn a West Point graduate into a traitor, they are too dangerous to be allowed to remain in our nation's armed forces.
The Islamic Chaplain's Corps needs to be disbanded. Muslims on active duty in the United States Armed Forces should be honorably discharged. No exceptions.
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posted on
09/20/2003 2:07:19 AM PDT
by
Ronin
(When the fox gnaws -- smile!)
To: kattracks
"highest levels" of government made the decision to arrest Capt. Yee, who had been kept under surveillance for some timeNo doubt W is seriously PO'd. And the Army is embarrassed/angry for sure. BAD career move on traitor Yee's part.
Well, they took time to build a caseload of evidence. Hopefully this will be prosecuted to the full extent under the UCMJ.
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posted on
09/20/2003 2:09:09 AM PDT
by
petuniasevan
(A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way.)
To: kattracks
What the hell did "the Army" expect???
Oh, yeah: "If we just show these people a little kindness and understanding, they'll come around to our way of thinking."
When will Western "Liberals" and their dupes begin to realize that THESE PEOPLE WANT TO KILL US; THEY HAVE DECLARED WAR ON THE UNITED STATES AND ATTACKED US!???
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posted on
09/20/2003 2:19:36 AM PDT
by
Savage Beast
(The American Heartland--the Spirit of Flight 93)
To: kattracks; TheRightGuy; unspun; cfrels; Dengar01; BillyBoy; The Brush; Notforprophet; NormalGuy; ...
Come on now! Stop the hate speech and proaganda!
It is a Religion of Peace!
To: Savage Beast
Thank You !!
To: kattracks
The problem is based in nomenclature. We keep referring to Islam as a religion when it is truly a cult. There is a difference.
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posted on
09/20/2003 2:25:53 AM PDT
by
Movemout
To: Ronin
If they can turn a West Point graduate into a traitor, they are too dangerous to be allowed to remain in our nation's armed forces. It seems so obvious and yet how many of them are on the security posts at airports?
On the police forces?
Invited to immigrate to America?
It's disgusting. It's obsene. Our government is totally complicit in the coming disasters.
They are all traitors who took oaths to defend the constitution against all threats foreign and domestic.
To: goldstategop
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posted on
09/20/2003 2:46:00 AM PDT
by
My Favorite Headache
(Which one will lose? Depends on what I choose or maybe which voice...I ignore.)
To: kattracks
Hmm...West Point grad. Wonder if he graduated first in his class? (And did he join the Kosovo campaign, maybe as a mujahadin?)
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posted on
09/20/2003 2:52:24 AM PDT
by
G-dzilla
To: backhoe; HAL9000
INFO Bump
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posted on
09/20/2003 2:58:29 AM PDT
by
Cindy
To: kattracks
Another Jihadist in the Army? At least this one wasn't in the field where he could be rolling grenades into occupied tents.
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posted on
09/20/2003 3:01:06 AM PDT
by
putupon
(I wish we could put itty bitty pics here so we wouldn't have to think up so many words.)
To: kattracks
Treasonous
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posted on
09/20/2003 3:04:57 AM PDT
by
Peach
(The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
To: maestro; f.Christian
Hey, that's a pretty good f.Christian impression!
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posted on
09/20/2003 3:08:05 AM PDT
by
ovrtaxt
( http://www.fairtax.org ** God may not be a Republican, but Satan is definitely a Democrat!)
To: Movemout
We keep referring to Islam as a religion when it is truly a cult. There is a difference.The church needs to get the revelation that Muslims are trapped in a dead philosophy of death worship, and they are as miserable and lost as any sinner. They are NOT truly satisfied spiritually, and they WILL respond to the Gospel.
The missionaries to Islam are almost nonexistent. We better wake up. That culture must be destroyed!
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posted on
09/20/2003 3:13:31 AM PDT
by
ovrtaxt
( http://www.fairtax.org ** God may not be a Republican, but Satan is definitely a Democrat!)
To: kattracks
Capt. Yee, one of 17 Muslim chaplains, was the subject of a number of press articles on Islam.
Lets hope the Army is wathcing the other 16 like hawks.
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posted on
09/20/2003 3:18:08 AM PDT
by
Kozak
(Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
To: kattracks
Perhaps I'm giving the Army too much credit, but I suspect they had their eye on this clown for a while, used him to track down other treasonous cretins, and then arrested him.
As for the penalty, put him in a cell with the guy who just killed the pedophile priest in Boston.
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posted on
09/20/2003 3:19:14 AM PDT
by
Young Rhino
(Do the French know the meaning of the words soap, water, and deodorant?)
To: ovrtaxt
The missionaries to Islam are almost nonexistent. We better wake up. That culture must be destroyed! I'm not real religious. I believe in God but I don't go to worship much. If a guy like me can see through this charade then I am sure that here are thousands who can see more clearly. The culture of Islam merits destruction in my opinion. They teach the wrong values to their kids. They treat their woman like livestock. They are fanatical killers of Jews, who have their own families. They want to destroy western civilization in any form.
Why we are so reluctant to erase them for the vermin that they are I cannot determine. I only know that we will before all is said and done. When it is done we can get back to the business of living.
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posted on
09/20/2003 3:29:44 AM PDT
by
Movemout
To: jocon307
You beat me to it.
This 'officer and gentleman' leaves the army, goes to Syria to take Islam 101, and returns to the US and reups?
Seems pretty obvious he was sent back home to infiltrate the services and collect information.
Also, what chaplain has access to sensitive information?
May well be he is only a part of a well developed cabal of traitorous Muslims in the military whose job is to spy on this country and perhaps do, who knows what else?
One can screen every passenger boarding a commercial airline for everything from AK 47's to genital crabs, yet leave ourselves totally vulnerable to attack from a Muslim in the military. Heck, we teach those people how to fly airplanes and blow things up.
Time to put any Muslim in the military under careful scrutiny and make sure they are not in positions where they have access to secret material or can sabotage key installations.
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posted on
09/20/2003 3:32:45 AM PDT
by
auntdot
To: kattracks
You never heard it from me, but a friend of my half-sister's boyfriend's cousin's pen pal's milkman's dog-walker's boss's mistress's hair-stylist's parakeet says that some members of the chaplain's corps are much more than just religious counselors, and are involved with a wide variety of intelligence activities, including those of non-military three-letter agencies.
Such personnel, if any exist, and you didn't hear anything from me, mind you, would often be privy to extremely rare combinations of otherwise sensitive compartmented information, and thus the compromise of said personnel could be of particularly grave and serious consequences to the security of the United States of America and its allies.
Not that I'm saying that's what's going one here, because maybe it's not, we don't know. But take a good look at the charges being discussed, and it's pretty damned obvious they want this guy well taken care of.
He'll be lucky if he only gets life out of this. Either way, he's going to be out of public view for a very long time, and starting very soon, from the looks of things. Secret military man meets secret military tribunal.
Sure, maybe he just passed along classified information that only came from interrogated prisoners at Guantanamo, and that would be very bad if he did, for sure. But this sort of proscutorial ferocity seems far more likely to be inspired by a possibly broader compromise than just the stuff the captured Al Qaeda leaders are telling us.
But like I said, you didn't hear anything from me, and I'm just speculating real loosely here, and maybe I should just keep my damn mouth shut.
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posted on
09/20/2003 3:39:01 AM PDT
by
Imal
(The deadliest weapon is patience.)
To: kattracks
The Pentagon will likely hold most of them until the war on terrorism is over. So I guess they'll be letting them go Real Soon Now(tm). Yeah, like the war is going to end in a few months, years or generations to come.
It's such a cute thing for them to print, I just couldn't resist commenting on it.
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posted on
09/20/2003 3:41:55 AM PDT
by
Imal
(The deadliest weapon is patience.)
To: kattracks; All
I wonder what Douglas MaCarthur, Chesty Puller, George S. Patton, Theodore Roosevelt, or Admirals Halsey or Nimitz might have said about this, had they been in charge.
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posted on
09/20/2003 3:48:32 AM PDT
by
Long Cut
(Even in Summertime, Iceland is COLD!)
To: auntdot
Let us hope this story doesn't fade from the news. I'd really like to know who is telling what to these Muslims, why they think they can take over the world, and why they'd want to.
What are the 5 pillars of Islam? Is one of them Jihad?
I must do research!
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posted on
09/20/2003 3:54:55 AM PDT
by
jocon307
(how much trouble is THIS post going to get me in?)
To: auntdot
OK, jihad is not a pillar. Live, research, and learn!
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posted on
09/20/2003 3:57:32 AM PDT
by
jocon307
(how much trouble is THIS post going to get me in?)
To: jocon307
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posted on
09/20/2003 4:09:00 AM PDT
by
BullDog108
(KNOW YOUR ENEMY! http://bvml.org/webmaster/enemy.html)
To: Ronin
>>Islam is not like other religions.
Worth saying again.
Since shortly after 9/11, after more study of what is going on and the history, I came to this conclusion:
We're dealing with an evil, totalitarian, dictatorial, murderous political system masquerading as a religion. It is simply not a "religion" as we, and most of the rest of the non-Muslim world, thinks of a "religion".
I really, really hope that Bush and crew don't really believe this "peaceful, friendly Muslims" line, and that it is used simply because, at the highest levels, there has been a conscious decision to use that line in order to not enrage large numbers of middle-of-the-road Islamics.
There are a large number of secular Muslims with whom we could coexist - but they must be very secular. And anyone who goes back to the roots becomes an enemy immediately. And regarding the secular Muslims, we can say, paradoxically, the only good Muslim is a bad Muslim.
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posted on
09/20/2003 4:22:14 AM PDT
by
FreedomPoster
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To: Dog
Interesting information from the article:
Is he a second-generation Chinese? I am most disturbed by this Chinese connection.
He was raised in New Jersey.
Syrian wife.
I wonder how many more there are?
To: Miss Marple
I'd like to know what kind of security clearances this guy had.
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posted on
09/20/2003 4:26:37 AM PDT
by
Imal
(The deadliest weapon is patience.)
To: Long Cut
In particular, I'm trying to imagine the string of expletives that would issue forth from Patton were he confronted with this sitution. Likely with substantial historical context and informed analysis.
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posted on
09/20/2003 4:26:47 AM PDT
by
FreedomPoster
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To: kattracks
Pray tell...
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posted on
09/20/2003 4:29:45 AM PDT
by
SevenDaysInMay
(Federal judges and justices serve for periods of good behavior, not life. Article III sec. 1)
To: FreedomPoster
Coupled, of course, with his drawing of an ivory-handled pistol and aiming it at the traitorous dog's skull. I believe T.R. would reach for the horsewhip. As for the rest, I don't know WHAT they'd reach for, but doubtless some profanity would come into play.
They'd also begin the rounding up and court-martial (for incompetence) any officers who supported this idiotic policy.
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posted on
09/20/2003 4:31:09 AM PDT
by
Long Cut
(Even in Summertime, Iceland is COLD!)
To: kattracks
Yee sounds like Wussy Clarkes kind of officer.
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posted on
09/20/2003 4:31:19 AM PDT
by
Rome2000
(Vote McNader and Bustamante wins)
To: Imal
I would as well. The good thing about this is that obviously the different agencies are more coordinated and aren't overlooking anyone.
To: Ronin
>> What that means is that Muslims cannot be trusted as loyal Americans simply because they are NOT loyal Americans. Their allegiance is not to their country.
I totally agree. But I would like to add that the muslim cult should not be allowed to exist in this nation, at all. Our nation will never be safe as long as those psychos are here. I am not for banning peaceful religions, like Judaism and Christianity -- just for banning psychotic cults, like the muslims.
To: Imal
Any commissioned officer has to have at least a Secret clearance. That includes chaplains. Reading between the lines and given his West Point pedigree, I would be suprised if he didn't have a Top Secret clearance.
Naturally, that does not mean he had "need to know" in a lot of cases, but it is certain that he was "working" in close rapport with the psy-ops guys that were conducting the interrogations. All in all, it doesn't look very good.
He probably learned a lot more than he was supposed to simply because he wasn't considered a threat. His fellow officers probably thought of him as an American Officer first and a Muslim second -- to their sorrow.
I suspect that this is going to cause major reviews of the U.S. Armed Forces policy on Islamics in uniform -- as well it should.
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posted on
09/20/2003 4:41:18 AM PDT
by
Ronin
(When the fox gnaws -- smile!)
To: Young Rhino
Perhaps I'm giving the Army too much credit, but I suspect they had their eye on this clown for a while, used him to track down other treasonous cretins, and then arrested him. Depending on how far you want to go with that- the Army may have put him in that position in the first place because they knew what he was up to. If they had always suspected him, it would make sense.
To: kattracks
Treason in a time of war should be punishible by DEATH. Time for this TRAITOR to meet his 72!
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posted on
09/20/2003 4:42:12 AM PDT
by
PISANO
To: kattracks
bttttttttttt
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posted on
09/20/2003 4:42:23 AM PDT
by
dennisw
(G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
To: auntdot
Also, what chaplain has access to sensitive information? I believe all info from the detainees would be considered classified.
To: PhilipFreneau
But I would like to add that the muslim cult should not be allowed to exist in this nationHow would you enforce such a ban?
To: FreedomPoster
"the only good Muslim is a bad Muslim" That expression has a great deal of resonance to it. Possibly enough to merit proud display on peoples' bumpers, and at least a tag line or two.
Might want to copyright that. :^)
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posted on
09/20/2003 4:48:10 AM PDT
by
Imal
(The deadliest weapon is patience.)
To: Imal
I wish I could claim that I originated that, but I'm sure I picked it up from someone else here at FreeRepublic.
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posted on
09/20/2003 4:50:33 AM PDT
by
FreedomPoster
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