MUSLIM APOCALYPTIC WRITERS INDICATE FUTURE STRIKES ON NEW YORK AND VATICAN

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[Polycarp]

MUSLIM APOCALYPTIC WRITERS INDICATE FUTURE STRIKES ON NEW YORK AND VATICAN

Muslim apocalyptic writers indicate that the long-term targets of terrorism will continue to be Washington and New York -- along with the Vatican.

This is apparent from recent Islamic literature that focuses on what many Muslims believe is a coming anti-christ-like figure called the Dajjal, who will supposedly spring up from the U.S. and "Greater Israel," defined by many Muslims as worldwide Jewish influence propelled by the United States. They see endless mishaps for America and its largest city, from nuclear war to natural calamities by which -- in the words of one of the writers, Muhammad `Isa Da'ud -- "the sea will swallow up New York."

"There can be no doubt of the profound hostility entertained by Muslim apocalyptic writers towards the United States, and their intense desire to humiliate it and see it destroyed forever," notes David Cook of the University of Chicago.

In chilling references that predate September 11, Muslim philosophers -- including at least one said to have influenced Bin Laden -- have used terms like "partial strike" and link it to the war over Kuwait as well as the immorality they saw as flourishing in the West, especially under the Clinton Administration. In a bizarre rendering of symbols, Muslim apocalypticists have cited Jeremiah 50:2 and 51:44, where the figure of "Bel" (a Babylonian god) is "punished in Babylon." They connect "Bel" to "Bill" Clinton.

But it isn't just Bill Clinton; the venom is spread wide and far. According to one scenario set forth by Muslim apocalypticist Bashir Muhammad 'Abdallah, the first battle of the End Times was the Kuwait War of 1991, which he refers to as the Third World War as he links America to "the Masons and other secret Jewish organizations."

In Muslim apocalyptic literature, America is associated with "Ad," a city whose destruction is detailed in the Koran. Ad was an advanced civilization, according to Cook, who has studied the Muslim apocalyptic interpretations and quotes Abdallah as seeing Ad as a civilization that "could predict weather and possessed other advanced technology.

"They had advanced weaponry and organized sports and cultural events," Cook writes, summarizing the Muslim beliefs regarding the evil power they had to overthrow. "These, however, were merely for pleasure, not for the purpose of glorifying God. Their buildings were skyscrapers [speaking of their capital, Iram dhat al-`Imad], just as in New York."

Therefore, says Abdallah, "America deserves now, according to the sunna of God regarding the punishment of nations, a partial strike like that which caught Ad." In the matter of earthquakes or khasfs, says Cook, the Muslim apocalyptic writers believe America will be targeted "and specifically New York City, which is called the 'great Babylon.'"

But if such literature is predictive of where terrorists -- believing they are doing God's bidding -- may also strike, other cities may bear similar concerns. In future apocalyptic scenarios the writers see missiles destroying a total of "five American cities," says Cook.

Time and again, reference is made to the war with Iraq over Kuwait -- which ironically now figures so prominently into the current presidency of former President Bush's son. New York is focused upon by Muslim fanatics because "there are more Jews than in other places, and in it is their wealth, their banks, their political foundations which control the entire world, so there is no evil greater than in New York in any other place on the inhabited earth, and for this reason their portion of the punishment will be greater in measure and it will be a total uprooting," notes Cook in his splendid scholarship.

The destruction of New York and the U.S. by everything from war to earthquakes is accompanied by ominous Islamic prophetic interpretations that have the U.S. defeated in Jerusalem.

"After this," notes Cook, "the victorious Muslims will conquer Europe and destroy the 'idolatrous church in the Vatican.'

"This will lead to the brief reign of the Mahdi, which will be ended by the physical appearance of the Dajjal himself, who will gather another huge army to fight the Battle of Armageddon."

The "Mahdi" is a messianic figure whom some radicals now associate with Osama Bin Laden. According to Muslim writers, the Mahdi will proclaim himself in Mecca and move against Jordan, which will be ruled by a Jew.

"Then America will live through the worst disaster in its history," writes Muhammad 'Isa Da'ud. "This disaster will be the destruction of New York by a terrible flood after a terrifying series of explosions nearby makes the surrounding waters swallow it up as if it is an ant inside a terrifying star of heat and water."

In the perspective of these Muslim writers, "Florida also suffers nuclear explosions of unknown origin and this triggers even more explosions as the American nuclear arsenal in the area detonates."

After the disabling of the U.S., much of Europe will convert to Islam, in the view of modern Muslim prophetic writers, but there will be one stumbling block. "This ideal state of affairs is wrecked by the Vatican, since groups of saboteurs under Roman Catholic control are caught, and brought before the Mahdi," says Cook. "They confess who sent them to him personally and to representatives of the foreign countries. Then the Mahdi proclaims that his armies are moving to the Vatican and going to attack Rome."

It is a sobering warning on both short-term and long-term radical Muslim intentions. Let us make clear that this is not a view held by the majority of those who adhere to Islam. But it is prevalent in large circles that have spawned groups like Hamas and al-Qaeda. "Washington, the city of the American White House, where the policies of Satan are made, and the cursed Congress, whose decisions are led by the devil, and approved by the anti-christ -- fires swallow them up and they become past tense," writes the Muslim writer Da'ud.

Why the World Trade Center? Why the Pentagon? Besides the obvious nature of these symbols, they relate to the prophetic view of future events. "Bin Laden lives in a symbolic universe which reads apocalyptically," says another scholar, Richard Landes, director of the Center for Millennial Studies at Boston University.

"We need to consider both issues -- the motivations of Bin Laden and the Arab-Israeli conflict in light of Islamism and its apocalyptic world view. Bin Laden is a central player in a cosmic battle that pits the warriors for truth against the agents of Satan and evil in this world. For a good idea of what this vision consists of, see the web site named in honor of Abdullah Azzam, Bin Laden's (now dead) mentor and the founder of MAK, the predecessor to Al Qa'ida, especially the apocalyptic reading of the present world situation by a respected Saudi theologian, Sifr al-Hawali. He uses Daniel to prove that the second intifada began the 'Day of Rage of the Lord.' See also Islam, Qur'an and Qiyamah, by a moderate theologian who dislikes the fundamentalists, but nonetheless reads Sura 57 of the Koran as an apocalyptic prophecy fulfilled in the Trade Center bombing."

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[semaj]

"They touch the vatican or let loose a WMD in the US and Mecca, Medina and every other muslim "holy" place will instantly become a permanent and radioactive "hole-y" place.

This will be true only if we have a true leader in charge like GW. If it happens on Hillary's or some other anti-american commie's watch, we will do absolutely nothing but ring our hands and apologize profusely,... guaranteed.

[Salvation]

**Italy is being overrun by illegal Muslims as we speak. Is anyone paying attention?**

I remember seeing one picture of the three hills of Rome. Dead bodies all around. A man in white ?the Pope? going up the hills.

[Sabertooth]

The destruction of New York and the U.S. by everything from war to earthquakes is accompanied by ominous Islamic prophetic interpretations that have the U.S. defeated in Jerusalem.

"After this," notes Cook, "the victorious Muslims will conquer Europe and destroy the 'idolatrous church in the Vatican.'

"This will lead to the brief reign of the Mahdi, which will be ended by the physical appearance of the Dajjal himself, who will gather another huge army to fight the Battle of Armageddon."

The "Mahdi" is a messianic figure whom some radicals now associate with Osama Bin Laden. According to Muslim writers, the Mahdi will proclaim himself in Mecca and move against Jordan, which will be ruled by a Jew.

"Then America will live through the worst disaster in its history," writes Muhammad 'Isa Da'ud. "This disaster will be the destruction of New York by a terrible flood after a terrifying series of explosions nearby makes the surrounding waters swallow it up as if it is an ant inside a terrifying star of heat and water."

Could get interesting sooner than we expect, where the Mahdi is concerned...

 
Eclipses during Ramadan
by David L. McNaughton
In "Hamdard Islamicus" (Karachi, Pakistan), vol. XIX no. 1 (Spring 1996): pp. 81-86.

Double Eclipses during Ramadan

Sometimes a Ramadan will contain a solar and a lunar eclipse. That inevitably provokes comment, because of traditions that such a "double-eclipse" is a portent for some unusual event. Ithna'asheri Shi'ites, for example, believe that their Twelfth Imam will reappear after a Ramadan double-eclipse (although those two phenomena will supposedly take place in reverse order, with the solar one occurring in mid-month (5); that will require the moon to suddenly double its speed of movement after the onset of the Holy Month!)

In March/April 1894 (Ramadan 1311), Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (founder of the Ahmadiyya or Qadiani movement in Pakistan) interpreted a double-eclipse as a sign that he was a genuine modern-day prophet (6). The lunar eclipse during that particular month was only partial, although the solar one two weeks later was total in a few places in eastern Asia (7). However, there was nothing at all extraordinary about those two eclipses: every 22 or 23 Islamic years there is at least one Ramadan featuring a pair of eclipses two weeks apart (8) - one of which is usually partial; see Table 1.

Very much rarer is a Ramadan containing two total eclipses.

Table 2 lists all such occasions since AH 1, as well as during the next 200 years (9); (its solar eclipses are all central, with annular ones also included).

It will be interesting to see whether the two total eclipses scheduled to occur during Ramadan 1424 (AD November 2003) - are cited to support a claim similar to that made by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, or as proof of thesignificance of some extraordinary event.

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Table 2

Ramadans with two central eclipses

LUNAR . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SOLAR

AH . . AD . . . . . . . . . . Date . . . Where visible . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Date . . .Where visible

.283 . .896 . . . . . . . ..29 Oct . . .Pacific & adjacent . . . . . . . . . . 12 Nov . Canada; Alaska;
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .(25 Oct) . . landmasses . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .(8 Nov) . NE Pacific

.305 . .918 . . . . . . . . .5 Mar . . Eurasia; . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 20 Mar . .Antarctic; south
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . (28 Feb) .NE Africa . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . (15 Mar) . .Indian Ocean

.462 . 1070 . . . . . . . . .2 Jul . . .Pacific & adjacent . . . . . . . . . . . .16 Jul . . .Arctic; Siberia
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .(26 Jun) . .landmasses . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .(10 Jul)

.529 . 1135 . . . . . . . . . 4 Jul . . .America; Pacific; . . . . . . . . . . . . 19 Jul . . .Antarctic; far
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . (27 Jun) . New Zealand . . . . . . . . . . . . . .(12 Jul) . . .south Pacific

.596 . 1200 . . . . . . . . . 5 Jul . . . Pacific & adjacent . . . . . . . . . . *19 Jul . Siberia; Arctic;
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . (28 Jun) . .landmasses . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . (12 Jul) . . NW Atlantic

1200 . 1786 . . . . . . . . .11 Jul . . . Pacific & adjacent . . . . . . . . . . 25 Jul . . South Africa &
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . landmasses . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . adjacent oceans

1424 .2003. . . . . . . . .9 Nov. . .Europe; SW Asia; . . . . . . . . . .23 Nov . Antarctic; south
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Africa; America . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Indian Ocean

1580 . 2155 . . . . . . . . .9 Mar . . Europe; Africa; . . . . . . . . . . . . .*2 Apr . .China; Russia;
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .America . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Kashmir; Mongolia;
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. .Afghanistan

Notes for Table 2

Central lunar eclipses are always total.

*The central solar eclipses listed above are total unless asterisked - in which case they are annular.

Dates apply to the instant of maximum eclipse.

Extrapolated Gregorian dates are given even on occasions when the old Julian calendar was in operation;
the corresponding Julian date is then shown below in brackets.

A Google search on ramadan mahdi eclipse yielded 274 results.

A Google search on ramadan mehdi eclipse (alternate "mahdi" spelling) yielded 86 results.

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[Salvation]

Did that. This is part of what I found.

Islamic clerics herald the imminent conquest of Rome by Islam, in accordance with the prophecy of Mohammed. Sheik Yousef Al-Qaradhawi, a most influential Sunni cleric said: “Islam shall return to Europe as a Conqueror”. In a ‘Fatwa’ he quoted the Prophet Mohammed who said: “The city of Heracles [Constantinople – now Istanbul or ‘Islam-Boul’] will be conquered first; then Romiyya – today called ‘Rome’ the capital of Italy [and center of Catholic Christianity]…The conquest will be by a [Hudabiyya] treaty. The conquest of Romiyya means that Islam will return to Europe and, Allah willing, Europeans will convert to Islam – and disseminate Islam in the world.” Sudi Sheikh Muhammad bin Abd al-Rahman al’Arifi, imam of the mosque of King Faud Academy said: “We will control the land of the Vatican…the Christians who carve crosses on the breast of Muslims in Kosovo and Bosnia will pay us the Jiziya [poll tax paid by non-Muslims or ‘Dhimmis’] in humiliation or they will convert to Islam.” (5)

[nickcarraway]

The Battle of Lepanto: October 7th, 1571

[BabsC]

"There can be no doubt of the profound hostility entertained by Muslim apocalyptic writers towards the United States, and their intense desire to humiliate it and see it destroyed forever,"

This from a culture that makes me think of 14 year old boys being in charge. They are humiliated because their men couldn't compete with our little girls in the modern world. There's this thing called "self control" that appears to be against their religion. For boys anyway. They apparantly are scared to death of women.

[Domestic Church]

"The conquest will be by a [Hudabiyya] treaty."

I wonder how else this might have been translated.

[BabsC]

And Medina will be renamed it's original Jewish name Yathrib and given back to them.

[Salvation]

From the News Forum:

Terror Attack In US During Ramadan?

[BabsC]

Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem the second most sacred spot in Islam

I thought Medina was #2? The birthplace of ole mo, don't ya know. The dome and Jerusalem aren't mentioned in the Koran or the Hadishes(sp). It didn't become important religiously until it was a political tool.

[StriperSniper]

By the way, this reply is worthy of it's own thread in my opinion.

I'm suprised it has lasted this long as a reply. This had it's own thread right after it was published, but was removed. In fact, it has, as far as I can tell, been scrubbed from the internet. I was only going to post a link, but my last known working one no longer does. Then I thought to myself, what the heck, it is a reasonable response to the Jihadi threatening the Vatican.

By the way, I had some problems getting a game to work and following the advice of tech support, and I made all kinds of changes on my computer to get it to work. It was only shortly after that I posted this essay, now my computer is starting to subtlely act funny, wierd delays and such. I don't have the technical know-how to determine if it was something I did, or if I have some kind of Echelon spooks(Hi guys!) haunting me. I know I'm probably just paranoid, but.....

[StriperSniper]

Dr. Wheeler was a bit overheated when he wrote this, for good reason, so I can understand some mistaken details, if there are mistakes.

[Paulus Invictus]

Of course these Islamic idiots appear to be unaware that any attempt to take out NYC or DC would result in a "Roman" response by the US that would fry all Arab nations in atomic destruction. Mecca would be a prime target.

[Paulus Invictus]

It seems that the present admin is blind as Carl Rove and other high-level WH advisors are toadying up to the radical Muslims in the US, hoping for Muslim votes next year. This in spite of clear evidence that these so-called "peaceful" Arabs are known supporters of terrorists. This information was brought up tonight on Savage. Scary stuff!

[BabsC]

Hudabiyya

The town ole mo made a treaty with till he had enough swords to break the treaty he had signed.

This is a well known Islamic tactic blessed by allah as written in the koran.

[Paulus Invictus]

This sounds right to me! Now, how do we get President Bush to deliver the speech? Don't hold your breath too long... It would take a major hit on any US city to merit that kind of response even though we have already suffered that hit. Cojones are needed and soon!

[Victoria Delsoul]

"Then America will live through the worst disaster in its history," writes Muhammad 'Isa Da'ud. "This disaster will be the destruction of New York by a terrible flood after a terrifying series of explosions nearby makes the surrounding waters swallow it up as if it is an ant inside a terrifying star of heat and water."

Wow, there is so much love in the hearts of these people; it's amazing!

[Barnacle]

Good post MP.

You're right, let's stay focussed on God, rather than a pagan concept of who He is.

[Sabertooth]

Wow, there is so much love in the hearts of these people; it's amazing!

Watch out for Ramadan, when they share the love.

[Travis McGee]

The Islemmings think they are charging hard against the West, when they are charging for a cliff over the sea.

Sooner or later, if they keep it up, and let loose a WMD etc, we will find out if they will pray toward a smoking mile wide crater where their black moon-god rock used to be.