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MUSLIM APOCALYPTIC WRITERS INDICATE FUTURE STRIKES ON NEW YORK AND VATICAN
http://www.spiritdaily.com/muslimapocalyptic.htm ^ | 9/17/03 | spiritdaily.com

Posted on 09/17/2003 10:49:25 AM PDT by Polycarp

MUSLIM APOCALYPTIC WRITERS INDICATE FUTURE STRIKES ON NEW YORK AND VATICAN

Muslim apocalyptic writers indicate that the long-term targets of terrorism will continue to be Washington and New York -- along with the Vatican.

This is apparent from recent Islamic literature that focuses on what many Muslims believe is a coming anti-christ-like figure called the Dajjal, who will supposedly spring up from the U.S. and "Greater Israel," defined by many Muslims as worldwide Jewish influence propelled by the United States. They see endless mishaps for America and its largest city, from nuclear war to natural calamities by which -- in the words of one of the writers, Muhammad `Isa Da'ud -- "the sea will swallow up New York."

"There can be no doubt of the profound hostility entertained by Muslim apocalyptic writers towards the United States, and their intense desire to humiliate it and see it destroyed forever," notes David Cook of the University of Chicago.

In chilling references that predate September 11, Muslim philosophers -- including at least one said to have influenced Bin Laden -- have used terms like "partial strike" and link it to the war over Kuwait as well as the immorality they saw as flourishing in the West, especially under the Clinton Administration. In a bizarre rendering of symbols, Muslim apocalypticists have cited Jeremiah 50:2 and 51:44, where the figure of "Bel" (a Babylonian god) is "punished in Babylon." They connect "Bel" to "Bill" Clinton.

But it isn't just Bill Clinton; the venom is spread wide and far. According to one scenario set forth by Muslim apocalypticist Bashir Muhammad 'Abdallah, the first battle of the End Times was the Kuwait War of 1991, which he refers to as the Third World War as he links America to "the Masons and other secret Jewish organizations."

In Muslim apocalyptic literature, America is associated with "Ad," a city whose destruction is detailed in the Koran. Ad was an advanced civilization, according to Cook, who has studied the Muslim apocalyptic interpretations and quotes Abdallah as seeing Ad as a civilization that "could predict weather and possessed other advanced technology.

"They had advanced weaponry and organized sports and cultural events," Cook writes, summarizing the Muslim beliefs regarding the evil power they had to overthrow. "These, however, were merely for pleasure, not for the purpose of glorifying God. Their buildings were skyscrapers [speaking of their capital, Iram dhat al-`Imad], just as in New York."

Therefore, says Abdallah, "America deserves now, according to the sunna of God regarding the punishment of nations, a partial strike like that which caught Ad." In the matter of earthquakes or khasfs, says Cook, the Muslim apocalyptic writers believe America will be targeted "and specifically New York City, which is called the 'great Babylon.'"

But if such literature is predictive of where terrorists -- believing they are doing God's bidding -- may also strike, other cities may bear similar concerns. In future apocalyptic scenarios the writers see missiles destroying a total of "five American cities," says Cook.

Time and again, reference is made to the war with Iraq over Kuwait -- which ironically now figures so prominently into the current presidency of former President Bush's son. New York is focused upon by Muslim fanatics because "there are more Jews than in other places, and in it is their wealth, their banks, their political foundations which control the entire world, so there is no evil greater than in New York in any other place on the inhabited earth, and for this reason their portion of the punishment will be greater in measure and it will be a total uprooting," notes Cook in his splendid scholarship.

The destruction of New York and the U.S. by everything from war to earthquakes is accompanied by ominous Islamic prophetic interpretations that have the U.S. defeated in Jerusalem.

"After this," notes Cook, "the victorious Muslims will conquer Europe and destroy the 'idolatrous church in the Vatican.'

"This will lead to the brief reign of the Mahdi, which will be ended by the physical appearance of the Dajjal himself, who will gather another huge army to fight the Battle of Armageddon."

The "Mahdi" is a messianic figure whom some radicals now associate with Osama Bin Laden. According to Muslim writers, the Mahdi will proclaim himself in Mecca and move against Jordan, which will be ruled by a Jew.

"Then America will live through the worst disaster in its history," writes Muhammad 'Isa Da'ud. "This disaster will be the destruction of New York by a terrible flood after a terrifying series of explosions nearby makes the surrounding waters swallow it up as if it is an ant inside a terrifying star of heat and water."

In the perspective of these Muslim writers, "Florida also suffers nuclear explosions of unknown origin and this triggers even more explosions as the American nuclear arsenal in the area detonates."

After the disabling of the U.S., much of Europe will convert to Islam, in the view of modern Muslim prophetic writers, but there will be one stumbling block. "This ideal state of affairs is wrecked by the Vatican, since groups of saboteurs under Roman Catholic control are caught, and brought before the Mahdi," says Cook. "They confess who sent them to him personally and to representatives of the foreign countries. Then the Mahdi proclaims that his armies are moving to the Vatican and going to attack Rome."

It is a sobering warning on both short-term and long-term radical Muslim intentions. Let us make clear that this is not a view held by the majority of those who adhere to Islam. But it is prevalent in large circles that have spawned groups like Hamas and al-Qaeda. "Washington, the city of the American White House, where the policies of Satan are made, and the cursed Congress, whose decisions are led by the devil, and approved by the anti-christ -- fires swallow them up and they become past tense," writes the Muslim writer Da'ud.

Why the World Trade Center? Why the Pentagon? Besides the obvious nature of these symbols, they relate to the prophetic view of future events. "Bin Laden lives in a symbolic universe which reads apocalyptically," says another scholar, Richard Landes, director of the Center for Millennial Studies at Boston University.

"We need to consider both issues -- the motivations of Bin Laden and the Arab-Israeli conflict in light of Islamism and its apocalyptic world view. Bin Laden is a central player in a cosmic battle that pits the warriors for truth against the agents of Satan and evil in this world. For a good idea of what this vision consists of, see the web site named in honor of Abdullah Azzam, Bin Laden's (now dead) mentor and the founder of MAK, the predecessor to Al Qa'ida, especially the apocalyptic reading of the present world situation by a respected Saudi theologian, Sifr al-Hawali. He uses Daniel to prove that the second intifada began the 'Day of Rage of the Lord.' See also Islam, Qur'an and Qiyamah, by a moderate theologian who dislikes the fundamentalists, but nonetheless reads Sura 57 of the Koran as an apocalyptic prophecy fulfilled in the Trade Center bombing."

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To: StriperSniper
Why don't they do this??
21 posted on 09/17/2003 11:13:55 AM PDT by DooDahhhh
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To: Polycarp
They're reading the WRONG book - for ACCURATE, and completely TRUTHFUL information about the END TIMES please refer to the Bible (ie: Daniel, Revelation, etc) "and their names were NOT found written in the book of life and they were cast into the lake of fire" Seems to me the most important part of the end times is where you END UP! I know my name is in the book of life, what about you?
22 posted on 09/17/2003 11:14:28 AM PDT by princess leah
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To: j.havenfarm
I'd love to be able to but a "Battle of Tours" or "Rumble at Lepanto" T-shirt.
23 posted on 09/17/2003 11:22:47 AM PDT by fishtank
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To: Polycarp
"Isa Da'ud?" Isn't that pronounced "I's a dude?"

He, of course, overlooks the fact the Saudi's holy places, the Muslim evil places, would be "cleansed" long before the end of the list of calamities.

24 posted on 09/17/2003 11:27:54 AM PDT by Tacis
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To: Polycarp
Well, that certainly was an iteresting read.

"the sea will swallow up New York."

People have been predicting the same fate for California since at least the late 60's.

After the disabling of the U.S., much of Europe will convert to Islam, in the view of modern Muslim prophetic writers, but there will be one stumbling block.

I can sooooo see them bending over like that. Except for the remnant that will hold out.

25 posted on 09/17/2003 11:33:21 AM PDT by Jaded (But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you. Mat. 5:44)
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To: Polycarp
Oh boy! My kinda thread.

There are prophecies by catholic saints who said that the Muslims would invade into Europe and try to destroy the Vatican. They said that nearly all of the Vatican would be destroyed.

Many of them also speak of Masonry/Secret Sects who are undermining/infiltrating the Church.

And worldwide warfare before peace.

26 posted on 09/17/2003 11:37:40 AM PDT by Cap'n Crunch
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To: Polycarp
Didn't they miss something? With all that BS shouldn't they quote the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion", as well?
27 posted on 09/17/2003 11:37:56 AM PDT by pankot
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To: Polycarp
Looks like these writers have been reading the 'Left Behind' series of books, and simply replaced Christianity with Islam.

Show some original thought, boys!

28 posted on 09/17/2003 11:41:35 AM PDT by rintense (9-11-01: Never Forget.)
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To: princess leah
I know my name is in the book of life, what about you?

I personally don't believe in "once saved always saved" since it goes against so very many scriptures:

Matt.7 [21] "Not every one who says to me, `Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. [22] On that day many will say to me, `Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?'

Matt.25 [11] Afterward the other maidens came also, saying, `Lord, lord, open to us.'

Luke.6 [46] "Why do you call me `Lord, Lord,' and not do what I tell you?

1 Corinthians 9:27 but I pommel my body and subdue it, lest after preaching to others I myself should be disqualified.

1 Corinthians 10:12 Therefore let any one who thinks that he stands take heed lest he fall.

Galatians 5:1,4 . . . stand fast therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery . . . You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace.

Philippians 3:11-14 that if possible I may attain the resurrection from the dead. ,b>Not that I have already obtained this or am already perfect; but I press on to make it my own, because Christ Jesus has made me his own. Brethren, I do not consider that I have made it my own . . . I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus.

1 Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by giving heed to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons.

1 Timothy 5:15 For some have already strayed after Satan.

Hebrews 3:12-14 Take care, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil, unbelieving heart, leading you to fall away from the living God. But exhort one another every day . . . that none of you may be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin. For we share in Christ, if only we hold our first confidence firm to the end.

Hebrews 6:4-6 For it is impossible to restore again to repentance those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the goodness of the word of God, and the powers of the age to come, if they then commit apostasy . . .

2 Peter 2:15,20-21 Forsaking the right way they have gone astray; they have followed the way of Balaam, . . . For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world through the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overpowered, the last state has become worse for them than the first. For it would have been better for them never to have known the way of righteousness than after knowing it to turn back from the holy commandment delivered to them.

29 posted on 09/17/2003 11:58:19 AM PDT by Polycarp ("women will be saved through childbearing--if they continue in faith, love and holiness" 1Tim2:15)
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To: Polycarp
"Florida also suffers nuclear explosions of unknown origin and this triggers even more explosions as the American nuclear arsenal in the area detonates."

Seems like the terrorists know more than we do. I did not know there were nuclear warheads in Florida.

30 posted on 09/17/2003 12:05:04 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Clone Ann Coulter, the woman sent by God)
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To: Polycarp
Baal Clinton.

I like it.

31 posted on 09/17/2003 12:08:21 PM PDT by freedomson (Baruch haba b'shem Adonai!)
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To: Monty22
Heck, if it would appease them by handing over clinton, that's one thing I'd certainly consider!

No. He knows too much.

32 posted on 09/17/2003 12:09:01 PM PDT by Barnacle (The Barnacle has spoken.)
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To: Arrowhead1952
I did not know there were nuclear warheads in Florida

They carry them on all shuttle missions for protection against LGRs (little green men).

33 posted on 09/17/2003 12:09:30 PM PDT by Polycarp ("women will be saved through childbearing--if they continue in faith, love and holiness" 1Tim2:15)
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To: Kenton
The Quran is altrady that, judging from their actions.
34 posted on 09/17/2003 12:11:12 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: NYer
My fellow Americans and fellow citizens of the civilized world: I have today ordered the targeting of our intercontinental nuclear ballistic missiles on the city of Mecca in Saudi Arabia.

I don't think many people would argue with that...

35 posted on 09/17/2003 12:12:12 PM PDT by mhking (MAN IN SUIT! MAN IN SUIT! MAN IN SUIT! MAN IN SUIT! MAN IN SUIT! MAN IN SUIT! MAN IN SUIT!.....)
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To: Polycarp; Domestic Church
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36 posted on 09/17/2003 12:20:44 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: StriperSniper
"Nuke Mecca" is worthy of a bump.
37 posted on 09/17/2003 12:21:01 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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To: Polycarp
Mess with the Vatican and you'll learn a lot about hell first hand, Ahmed.
38 posted on 09/17/2003 12:22:50 PM PDT by Petronski (Calm down. Eat some fruit or something.)
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To: Cap'n Crunch
Bumping your post.
39 posted on 09/17/2003 12:24:20 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Bikers4Bush
"This has been a religious war from the outset. Anyone who still doesn't see that is blind."

Yes and no. The west is fighting a War on Terror, the Islamic terrorists have made it into a religious war. However, the more we learn about Islam and the Koran, the more we realize that Islam is the religion of evil and Satan.

I have been pursuaded of late that nuking Mecca may be a necessary act to stir the so-called "moderate" Muslims into curbing the extremists and disenfranchise them from Islam if we are to believe that Islam is a religion of peace. So far, I haven't seen any signs of this and the mute testimony by the moderates against the terrorists equates to tacit approval and support.
40 posted on 09/17/2003 12:33:46 PM PDT by DustyMoment
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