Posted on 09/10/2003 9:20:23 PM PDT by Coleus
Yes, I did. He wrote me at my home e-mail asking me to retract the statement I made in Post #171. I wasn't too keen on that.I have always disliked the word "homophobic" because it implies that those of us who disagree with the gay lifestyle have an irrational fear and hatred of gays. That isn't the case, of course, because the vast majority us of dislike the behavior, not the people themselves. Those of us (like me) who have spent a lot of time around them because of career choices often feel a great deal of pity for them because it's a horribly unhappy lifestyle. I'm not sure if that's the case with our Mr. Warden though -- he seems to really have an irrational fear of them.
I suggested that, instead of organizing silly protests and demanding this, that, and the other from the Texas Rangers, he volunteer at an AIDS center. I have organized help for one of the centers in Dallas before and it was very rewarding for both me and them. People who are afraid, lonely, and dying of a horrible disease are much more receptive to a message of grace and forgiveness.
Irrational??? "To the contrary [he] spent over 0ne thousand dollars out of [his] pocket stopping the homosexuals from having their "gay day".
"People who are afraid, lonely, and dying of a horrible disease are much more receptive to a message of grace and forgiveness."
Sure he's 'that kind of Christian'? The kind who would care about that, I mean......
There are a lot of sincere Christians, including myself, who aren't quite sure that you acted in the "most gentleman like manner possible." For example, your web site still says:
"Instead, [Ranger CEO Mike Cramer] insinuates that the Rangers did not have their salesperson personally contact the homosexual groups. ... The Bible calls that a lie, and so do we at ProtestGayDay.com."
Yet, Ranger CEO Mike Cramer on the Scott Wilder show had this to say about you:
"In the first conversation I ever had with [Rick Warden], and in scores of emails that Ive sent around to people, we have acknowledged that one of our ticket representatives contacted this group as well as hundreds, probably thousands, of other groups in the springand in April."
Somebody ain't telling the truth here.
You talk so high and mighty about the about truth, accuse me of "judging unrighteous judgment" (whatever that is), ask me to "repent of my sins" and "quit calling evil good and good evil," yet you continue to have this blatant lie on your website! And you still wonder why Scott Wilder and so many others of us question your motives and your actions?
I judge and discern according to the wisdom of the Holy Bible that you should have read more.
I read your website, heard you on the Scott Wilder show, and read and re-read the transcript of the show to make sure that I heard what I thought I heard. You've done a lot of truth-stretching throughout the whole affair.
If you're so concerned about the gay newspaper and the Texas Rangers telling the truth, perhaps you should start with revising your own website.
The gays didn't turn out to see the Rangers over a week ago for the same reason I haven't been to the Ballpark in two years.....the Rangers suck!
To attribute the low attendance of homosexuals to something you and W.N. Otwell (the Fred Phelps of North Texas) did is just plain silly.
Shhhh....you'll entice the fruits back to the park.
Note From Rick Warden To DallasMike, sinkspur & All Other Scoffers: ENOUGH SAID!
From the WorldNet Daily article:
"The group called on the Rangers to hold the paper accountable if the quote attributed to Cramer were untrue."
The article then goes on to say, in a quote taken directly from your website (emphasis added):
"Mike Cramer, who is the President of Operations with the Texas Rangers organization, has repeatedly refused to address the article in the Dallas Voice Newspaper stating, Gay Day at the Ballpark will be the first time a major professional athletic team has reached out to the gay community and offered to help organize such an event.
I heard Mike Cramer live on the Scott Wilder address the article (he did the same thing on WBAP, I understand), and the transcript of the Wilder Show interview can be found here where he says
"[The Dallas Voice] know[s] [the article is] incorrect and they should correct it."
Cramer publicly called on the Dallas Voice to correct the article. Yet you maintain on your website that the Rangers still refuse to address the Dallas Voice article or call upon the paper to correct itself. Why is your lie still on your website? Don't you have the same duty to correct your website as the Dallas Voice has to correct their article?
I could also ding you for your sentence structure on your website, which makes it appear at first blush that Mike Cramer made the quote, but I'll let that one go even though I suspect it was fully intentional on your part.
Further, Mr. Cramer said the following in his Scott Wilder interview:
"In the first conversation I ever had with [Rick Warden], and in scores of emails that Ive sent around to people, we have acknowledged that one of our ticket representatives contacted this group as well as hundreds, probably thousands, of other groups in the springand in April."Mr. Warden has a quote from me that says that the Rangers have consistently denied that one of our representatives contacted this group. Mr. Warden knows that thats not true. ...
So why do keep on telling lies about the Texas Rangers? Why do you call me a scoffer and ask me to "repent of my sins" when you're the one who is slandering others in your website? Is slandering wrong or does your Bible say something different from mine?
Funny how you want the Rangers to hold the gay paper accountable for the lies they told in their paper but are glad that the Rangers don't hold you accountable for the lies you tell in your website. It looks like you've misled WorldNet Daily and Concerned Women for America, too.
Care to address this issue or do you wish to call me names again? When you "judge and discern according to the wisdom of the Holy Bible that [I] should have read more," does it say anything about how you ought to tell the truth more?
The truth hurts like hell, doesn't it, Rick?
Sorry, but you know zero about the law. See my post #118.Did you correct the lies in your website yet?
Are you sure that the folks in the lane next to you were really gay? Somehow I get the feeling that you see a gay behind every tree.
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