Fresh 'honour killing' in Jordan: brothers hacked their two sisters to death

BBC News On Line ^ | 2003/09/10 | Unsigned

[aculeus]

The unidentified sisters, aged 20 and 27, were killed with axes in the capital Amman on Monday, according to a report in the Jordan Times newspaper.

Officials told the paper the three brothers - who are in detention - admitted that they carried out the killing for reasons of "family honour".

On Sunday Jordan's parliament rejected a bill imposing harsher penalties for such killings, which are often carried out by brothers and fathers against women deemed to have soiled the family's reputation.

Getting off lightly

The 27-year-old left her family home nearly two years ago to marry a man without her family's consent, the paper says.

Her 20-year-old sister ran away three months ago to join her.

Tipped on their whereabouts, the brothers went to their home with axes, and hacked their sisters to death, the paper says.

"It was a brutal scene. One victim's head was nearly cut clean off," an official is quoted as saying.

The older sister's 10-month-old baby and her husband escaped unharmed, according to the report.

The killings bring to 12 the number of women reported killed for reasons of "family honour" in Jordan this year, the Jordan Times says.

Under the existing law, people found guilty of committing honour killings often receive sentences as light as six months in prison.

[aculeus]

All cultures are equal.

[curmudgeonII]

All cultures are equal.

But some cultures are more equal than others [Apologies to George Orwell.]

[CROSSHIGHWAYMAN]

Muslims are more afraid of womens's rights than they are of death........and Jews!!

[polemikos]

Multiculturalism is EVIL.

Why? Because it assumes all cultures are equally valid or at least worthy of (governmental) protection. Objectively, many cultures are poisonous, evil, vile, self-corrupting, etc. If all cultures were equal then all incomes, lifestyles, and outcomes would be equal. Simply let all cultures compete for the hearts and minds of the populace and may the best one win.

Multiculturalism is not couscous; it is the stoning of adulterers.

Are William Shakespeare and a Middle East suicide bomber culturally equivalent?

In some cultures they love their relatives, in others they eat them. Do you have a preference?

Every multiculturalist believes - whether he knows it or not - that it is right:
- to force young girls into marriages they don't want
- to deprive them of the schooling and careers that they do want
- to regard them as prostitutes if they leave their abusive husbands
- to punish, even to kill, those who cross cultural and religious boundaries.

[Lijahsbubbe]

Jordan, where the "moderate" Muslims live.

[visualops]

You need the "religion of pieces" alert.

[MarkT]

Aw, c'mon folks - these are just some peaceful, fun loving Muslims out to live their own lives/religion. Cut them some slack - Muslims have an inalienable right to pursue their religious tenets because all people / religions are created equal - the fact some women got gutted and killed is nothing more than an example of the intensity of the religious fervor of a couple of the practicioners of the Muslim faith. , just maybe, some fuc*ing Muslim will actually get to thinking, pursuant to a religious tenet, that this fuc*ing dark ages, old testament religion is just a tad screwed up - who knows, maybe there are actually some Muslims with a little integrity and compassion - frankly, I think that there must be a modern crusade in which most, if not all, Muslims should be killed. Yours in Christ...

[Riverman94610]

To me,the real tragedy is that these barbaric practices are most likely condoned by many in the Muslim world who see the West and all the decadence and moral rot and say"Not here,baby"!
So we have these two extremes going on-the absolute flaunting of immorality and perversion here and in Europe and the completely reactionary and savage medeival suppressions of some in the Islamic world.
Can we ever have some BALANCE in this world?

[sneakers]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again - these people are nuts. This earth doesn't need their sick religion and the fake god they kill for.

[Gritty]

Celebrate Diversity!

[quark]

And from the American Femi-Nazis: Silence.

[colorado tanker]

I'm sure if you dig deep enough you'll find that the reason muslims abuse women is all America's fault.

[Dog Gone]

It must be a great honor to kill your kids. Of course, we do it here too, but we generally try to do it before birth.

[Publius6961]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again - these people are nuts. This earth doesn't need their sick religion and the fake god they kill for.

For pete's sake, lighten up!

These are the moderates.

Just ask any of the brainless palestinian brotherhood which posts here regularly.

[TheCrusader]

"In some cultures they love their relatives, in others they eat them."

They don't eat clowns in any culture. That's because they taste funny. :o)

[Paleo Conservative]

Are William Shakespeare and a Middle East suicide bomber culturally equivalent?

Hell no! William Shakespeare is just another dead white European male.

[SeeRushToldU_So]

Is time for the nuclear option ye? I think Islamism are like cancer. Someone is going to have to wipe out that religion totally.

I know Armageddon will do it, but maybe we could jump on it a little early.

[TheCrusader]

"And from the American Femi-Nazis: Silence."

The American feminists would rather die than take a stand beside conservatives. And it is conservatives who are fighting the war against the evil of Islam. Liberals have been trying to subvert this war on 'terror', (code word for Islam), since President Bush announced we would be attacking Afghanistan. You just know that American liberals would accept a turban and a forced study of the koran before they'd drop their multicultural rot and admit that Islam is regressive, cruel, dangerous and deadly.

[hellinahandcart]

Oh my God, they used axes on their own sisters. I can't think of a thing to say this that would be bad enough.

[hellinahandcart]

Can we ever have some BALANCE in this world?

Fraid not; I think the top's about to spin out, and there's nothing we can do about it.

[avenir]

"Multiculturalism is EVIL."

I second that emotion. How do all these over-pampered, princess-mentality'd feminists and libs fall for the multicultural con when so many cultures they fawn over would hack them to death for being as liberated as they are?

That they are blinded fools (a la the Bible), is the only explanation I can come with that fits the facts.

[PresbyRev]

Islam is hopelessly misogynistic and protestations to the contrary from its Western apologists are undone by these sorts of reports from the Muslim 'grassroots.'

[George W. Bush]

Religion Of Peace^TM alert.

[Lijahsbubbe]

Oh my God, they used axes on their own sisters. I can't think of a thing to say this that would be bad enough

It is beyond comprehension, isn't it?

[Arkady]

Excellent points!
Can we get some islamo-apologists-pests to weigh in here and enlighten us like they usually do? I'm sure there's a logical explanation, or maybe we could compare it to the Salem witch-hunts, or some other stupid shibboleth.
These maniacs are no real threat, except to themselves. if we banned all news of there actions for 6 months, they'd dry up and go away.

[VOA]

All cultures are equal.

"It is NOT one world."
--radio commentator Paul Harvey's usual trailing comment when he reports this
sort of international story.

[GladesGuru]

"Muslims are more afraid of womens's rights than they are of death........and Jews!!"

Of course they are! It is a lot safer to take an axe to your sister than to an Israeli. Never bring axes to Uzi fights - even the Sand Savages know that.

[cardinal4]

Jordan, where the "moderate" Muslims live.

They are savages. They wont change. They hate and want to kill us. Islam is a scourge. Why does the media, the left and even the current admin refuse to acknowledge what is irrefutable?

[Lijahsbubbe]

Why does the media, the left and even the current admin refuse to acknowledge what is irrefutable?

The media and the left are evil. As for the administration, I think they realize the whole world's about to blow.

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

The older sister's 10-month-old baby and her husband escaped unharmed, according to the report.

Interesting. I wonder if hubby wasn't in on it.

If it is later shown that he was not there at the time I will apologize but going on what the story says it sounds very fishy to me.

I wonder what sex the child is.

[SauronOfMordor]

Has anybody heard of a case where the woman successfully defends herself with a gun against an "honor killer"?

[Arkady]

Still waiting to hear from the pest-crowd, my aren't they selective?
Biting their tongues i suppose.....(an islamo-observance thing I hear.)
To be fair it's pretty hard to put a good face on this crapola. But there must be some moral equivilance here somewhere, if we just look under the right rock.

[per loin]

If someone comes after your wife with an axe, you run away. How very Islamic!

[Skooz]

All cultures are equal.

Who are we to judge?

[MontanaBeth]

I wouldn't last a day in that "society". But I'd take some of them with me.

[Skooz]

And from the American Femi-Nazis: Silence.

Well, there is a shrill shriek whenever Promise Keepers holds a meeting.

[river rat]

I'm really looking forward to having more of these cockroaches as neighbors....

These assholes have a very strange concept of "honor" - that requires the murder of one's own family.

Does that mean that we must murder everyone of them, to recover our "honor" after the Islamists murdered 3000 of our citizens?

Semper Fi

[thinktwice]

Who are we to judge?

Why did God give humans the faculty of reason?

[Skooz]

Sorry. I thought a sarcasm tag would have been redundant.

[MontanaBeth]

I think they put out your eyes and cut off your hands if you are female and touch a gun.

[blam]

Sickos!

[harmony]

"Are William Shakespeare and a Middle East suicide bomber culturally equivalent?"

Good point. I'd say that they were about as equivalent as Hafez and Timothy McVeigh.

[Frank_2001]

The Religion of Peace strikes again!
Feel the love, people!/sarcasm off

[harmony]

I don't suppose that it would matter to any of you that the Muslim scholars don't find any support for honour killing in the Quran? Hrm?

Nope, didn't think so. After all, why bother learning about one another when it could threaten one's comforting habitual prejudices, eh?

[Ann Archy]

Religion of Peace BUMP.

[happygrl]

If the Koran does not forbid it or encourage it, it is evident that the Koran has done nothing to redeem Arab culture in this respect.

But as Muslim women tell us, they have soooo many rights under Islam. /sarcasm off.

[Lijahsbubbe]

Sharia Law is the Islamic legal system (read Muslim) which upholds honor killings.

[polemikos]

Good point. I'd say that they were about as equivalent as Hafez and Timothy McVeigh.

I must admit, I fail to see your point. Perhaps you could spell it out more clearly.

[Natural Law]

It is my contention that behavior defines. I can think of no more self centered, sociopathic behavior than to kill a sibling or child because of some percieved dishonor. Whether religious or cultural in origin, there is no place in the 21st century for this behavior or those who practice, endorse or defend it. It is a disease that must be quarantined or amputated from the body human.