Illegals sue over college entrance

The Washington Times | September 4, 2003 | Mary Shaffrey

[Dante3]

A group of Hispanic illegal immigrants sued seven state colleges and universities yesterday in federal court, claiming the schools denied them admission because of their immigration status.

The lawsuit . . . says the schools' presidents and rectors are following ill-conceived legal advice from state Attorney General Jerry W. Gilgore, who last fall issued an opinion recommending that all Virginia colleges deny admission to illegal immigrants and suggeting that admissions officers report potentially illegal applicants to federal authorities. . .

Andres Tobar, co-chairman of the Immigrant Legal Rights Coalition, said Mr. Kilgore's policy punishes hundreds of high school students whose illegal status is no fault of their own, inasmuch as they were brought in the United States by their parents. . .

Marlinda Palpido, of Alexandria, agreed. Mrs. Palpido, 33, said she wouldn't be were she is now if she hadn't graduated from Virginia Tech . . . Mrs. Palpido was an illegal immigrant until she got married in 1997.

"I am now working as an engineer as a Navy contractor, but if they had closed the doors, I would probably be a nanny or a cook," she said.

Mr. Kilgore said through a spokesman that he will defend the schools.

"It seems as if they are attempting to force Virginia colleges and universities to accept illegal aliens," spokesman Timothy Murtaugh said. . .

Five of the six plaintiffs are identified only as Jane Doe I, II and III and John Doe I and II, and either attend or have graduated from Virginia public schools. The other plaintiff is Equal Access Education, a group of Northern Virginia immigrants and their families and friends.

The identities of the five students, all of whom are natives of Central and South American countries, were not revealed because none of them are U.S. citizens or alwful permanent resdidents, according to the lawsuit. . .

Tisha Tallman, regional counsel for the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund (MALDEF), said some of them hold Temporary Protective Status visas, but had not been granted permanent residence. MALDEF is a civil rights organization that is spearheading the lawsuit. . .

Mr. Murtaugh said Virginia is not trying to set immigration policy, but rather to ensure everyone follows the law. "These anonymous plaintiffs are readily admitting they are not following the law," he said. "It's unfair to those who have followed the process legally."

[Dante3]

This is like something out of the Twilight Zone. Criminals suing for special perks!

[Dante3]

fyi

[magslinger]

ping

[HuntsvilleTxVeteran]

CRIMINAL INVADERS use our laws to sue Americans!
They should be put in jail until their country
pays all court costs and then sent back COD!

[freeangel]

And the "It's not my fault" legal battle eats away at more of our tax dollars because of the slimy , ILLEGAL behavior from their ILLEGAL parents. What should happen is that a judge should say to go and sue--THEIR PARENTS for gross negligence.

[goldstategop]

Let me get this: a higher education is an entitlement now? That comes as news to most Americans who have to pay tuition, room and board and meals for their college education...

[bitcon]

Makes me sick. They can show up in the country get an education at a public school free of charge then go to university/college probably at the normal fee of a local student. All this and I can't even get a green card to serve.

[gunnedah]

This is because of our elected leaders not having the courage to take a stand. They all want these illegal votes to keep their kingdoms.
At least one in nine of our citizens were not even born in America and look at the illegals. They almost control our country through the ballot box and the liberals are even opening it up more so to them.
In this century America will see that the fighting like Israel and Palestine will be common to America, wait and see.

[David Isaac]

I am loath to admit this, but when I was a teenager, my parents robbed a bank (it was just a little bank) and used the money to put me through college. Today I am a sensitivity trainer for a Fortune 500 company and PCing my way to financial security.

The story you have just read is a ficticious account intended for illustration only.

[Savage Beast]

"Liberals"/Democrats will be beating the drum in support of the criminals; that's how these people stay in office.

[coincheck]

ok, let me see if i've got this straight
1)ILLEGAL immigrants are taking a college in the USA to court because they were deneid admission.
2)I assume that these ILLEGAL immigrants have an AMERICAN lawyer who should be reporting this to the INS (but is not)
3)these ILLEGAL immigrants probably have a good chance of winning because they will probably get a SOCIALIST democrat activist judge(who is not biased at all) to rule in their favor.
only in america
coincheck

[blanknoone]

It seems to me that under American law we have the right to face our accusers...make them show up in court, and have the INS standing by.

[MEG33]

I like your thinking.

[Vesuvian]

Boy, and I thought they were out of their minds demanding the local tuition rates. Pretty soon they'll get paid to go to college.

[BeerSwillr]

Immigrant Legal Rights Coalition

These idiots don't even see the lunacy of their organization's name.

How they can have an organization name with the word "legal" in it just makes me sick.

[Jimmy Valentine's brother]

Mrs. Palpido was an illegal immigrant until she got married in 1997.

"I am now working as an engineer as a Navy contractor,..."

Really? And how did she recieve a security clearance? Oh yeah, I forgot. During the impeached X42's administration, staffing for security background investigations was greatly reduced.

The Virginia Court should throw this suit out as frivilous now.

[upchuck]

Why did I have to see this first thing in the morning? Now I'll be pissed off all day long. Grrrrrrr!

IMHO the invasion by millions^* of CRIMINAL aliens is possibly more important than "the war on terrorism." This invasion will/is having a serious affect on our country.

^* - I wrote millions because I have seen this number used other places. But does anybody know of an accurate number? The INS sure as hell doesn't!

[alloysteel]

There is a specific visa issued for foreign nationals to enter the US as legal residents, for the purpose of attending an institution of higher learning. And hundreds of thousands have exercised this very option, coming from every corner of the world. But only Hispanic applicants think the rules should not apply. Why is this?

[DC native]

They are using our stupidity as a weapon against us. You reap what you sow and we have been bending over for the leftists for 40 years. Now the law of physics is taking effect and we are receiving that which happens when you bend over.

[whd23]

Would it be too much to ask for a couple of INS officers to show up at the court house to arrest and DEPORT the illegals?
< sarcasm>I know they're busy and all, but these situations would seem like a slam-dunk case. <\sarcasm>

[GailA]

Illegal Immigrants is a term the LIBERALS and BIASED media want you to have stuck in your mind as it makes it easier to associate illegal immigrants with LEGAL immigrants...thus blurring the line as they do with so many other social issues they treasure. These people are LAW BREAKING ILLEGAL ALIENS!

[Puppage]

A group of Hispanic illegal immigrants sued seven state colleges and universities yesterday in federal court, claiming the schools denied them admission because of their immigration status.

Well, DUH!

[blackdog]

In doublespeak tradition, "Illegal" now means something completely opposite it's actual meaning. My god how we've deteriorated.

[CatoRenasci]

Actually, this lawsuit may be a good idea. The federal courts in Virginia are more conservative than most. I think we could well end up with both district and circuit court opinions that say not only do the universities not have to admit illegal aliens, public institutions may not do so. College admission cannot be an entitlement, and schools are already permitted to discriminate between residents and nonresidents in fees. I think the timing for this is good.

[Puppage]

but if they had closed the doors...

Yeah, if we had CLOSED the border what would your ILLEGAL gripe be THEN?

[onevoter]

I would say this is fine if these people expect to pay out of state (Country) tuition rates but I suspect they also want preferred status based on being Hispanic and expect that the taxpayers should pay for their tuition due to low income. This is where we have to say "Enough!" I am currently paying through the nose to put my own two through college and should not have to carry the ball for illegals!

[Arrowhead1952]

ok, let me see if i've got this straight

Don't forget that in some states, illegals can now get a legal driver's license. Doesn't that sound oxymoronic? Thanks to Gray out Davis, Kalifornia will allow this practice. Gov Perry vetoed this in Texas.

[Puppage]

the schools denied them admission because of their immigration status.

They are ILLEGAL! They have NO STATUS!

[Bill S]

What part of the word illegal do these people not understand? in all seriousness, why aren't these ILLEGALS deported ASAP? This really is a twilight zone.

[Rubber_Duckie_27]

Yes, higher education IS an entitlement...but only if you're illegal, living off welfare, or otherwise mooching off taxpayers. Those of us from middle-class America are the ones who get the shaft in the form of tuition increases.

I went to a public university and now get the joy of paying off $20K of student loans. Fortunately I funded most of my education through scholarships and part time work, or I'd be like a buddy of mine who is $130K in debt at the age of 22. My education was worth it, but nothing gets me more steamed than illegals insisting that they have a *right* to attend a public university (and probably for free at that).

They should be deported immediately. None of this secrecy stuff...kick 'em out NOW.

[dennisw]

I am sick and tired of their ******* arrogance. I pray they lose and lose big. If your folks come here illegally and bring you in to then tough luck. Go do drywall or agricultural work for the rest of your life. Our country club types want an imported serf class and guess what! That's you.

[KC_for_Freedom]

I don't understand this, they claim to be smart enough to get into college in VA but seem not to know that they can move to CA and be treated like a resident, even given aid.

They could use the legal fees to travel. I don't think they belong in college yet.

[putupon]

I can't wait for DimRAT Guv. Warner to weigh in his opinion on this one.

[GunsareOK]

...Andres Tobar, co-chairman of the Immigrant Legal Rights Coalition...

This clown ran for Delegate in the 49th district of Virginia but lost in the primary (to another liberal).

[Imagine]

(COPY AND DISTRIBUTE WIDELY. Revise and extend as you see fit, start a movement, print a petition, start a political party, confront your legislators, write letters, post posters, drop leaflets, demand, demand, demand…)

18 POINT ACTION PLAN: Border Violators

1) Close all US borders to illegal entry forthwith by any and all means possible, including military presence.

2) Maintain legitimate immigration levels at modest annual level with requirements that immigrants be employable or sufficiently wealthy for self-support if they do not intend to work, proficient in basic English and willing to be assimilated into American culture and language. All applicants shall provide prints, photos and DNA samples.

3) Legal immigration shall be awarded to individuals on a lottery basis, wherein all countries are given equal status in the immigration lottery, without regards to color or economic plight of originating nation.

4) Individuals of Islamic faith (muslims) from any country shall be denied immigration privileges or entry into the US. Christians and Jews from muslim countries fleeing religious persecution shall receive preferential and accelerated immigration privileges.

5) Detain all border violators, taking photos, prints and DNA samples of said violator while at the same time, checking for out standing warrants. If no warrants are outstanding, return border violators to home country within 20 days via commercial airline and submit cost of such action, including processing and housing costs for said violator, to country of origin. If costs are not paid within 30 days, reduce any and all aid to said country by a like amount.

6) Should any country from which a border violator originates not currently receive any aid from the US, the Justice Department shall be authorized to seize or secure liens on assets owned, managed or registered to that country to the full extent of the obligation.

7) Establish new Guest Worker Visa (GWV) category, renewable every six (6) months, for unskilled labor positions wherein all applicants shall provide prints, photos and DNA samples. Work permitted of such applicants shall be limited to one of several categories, including childcare, lawn/gardening, restaurant staff, cleaning, and the like. Families of GWV workers are not permitted to enter US, nor will the birth of a child to one of GWV status confer citizenship to either parent or child.

8) Any violation of civil or criminal laws shall result in the forfeiture of the GWV and immediate return to originating country.

9) GWV holders shall be prohibited from claiming unemployment benefits, welfare support or free medical service.

10) The originating country of all GWV holders shall be responsible for any uninsured loss caused by the GWV, including emergency medical claims and/or claims resulting from illegal actions committed while in the US.

11) Companies who hire GWV holders shall submit to the Immigration Dept the name and GWV number of that individual, along with a description of employment tasks. Companies shall be subject to fines and penalty that fail to report employment of GWV workers, or hire border violators. GWV workers shall be paid with check, having income tax withheld. GWV workers shall not be subject to unemployment tax because they are not eligible to receive unemployment compensation.

12) Border violators, or any non-citizen not possessing a valid visa, detained by local police for any reason shall be turned over to border control officials for immediate deportation action, except if they face criminal charges in other jurisdictions.

13) Border violators and GWV workers shall be prohibited from voting in local, state and federal elections.

14) Border Violators shall NOT be afforded the rights enjoyed by American citizens, as guaranteed under the constitution.

15) Public education (at institutions supported by taxpayer dollars) at any level (pre-school, kindergarten through the university level,) shall NOT be available to Border Violators (or children of Border Violators) and schools that enroll such individuals shall be subject to penalties.

16) Foreign Students (F/S) (individuals admitted to the U.S. for the purpose of attending any educational facility,) private institution or public (i.e. supported by taxpayer dollars,) must have valid student visas, such visas being in force only if the F/S attends school full-time. F/S shall be required to pay tuition, housing and related costs such that all their educational costs are fully reimbursed to the institution attended. The originating country shall pay for any and all loss caused by students while on U.S. soil.

17) Border Violators seeking emergency medical treatment shall provide pictures, fingerprints and DNA samples along with country of origin, and shall be treated then incarcerated until information provided can be verified. Originating country shall bear the costs of medical treatment and confinement.

18) Children born in the U.S. to border violators, illegal aliens or of foreign nationals in the U.S. for any reason (including temporary visitor, school or work visas,) shall not be eligible for citizenship as circumstances of birth, nor shall the parents or parent’s family members (relatives) be conferred U.S. citizenship as a result of such births.

[GunsareOK]

That will be interesting. He has ambitions of running for US Senate when John Warner retires. Half of the stupid public probably thinks they're the same guy anyway.

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

The identities of the five students, all of whom are natives of Central and South American countries, were not revealed because none of them are U.S. citizens or alwful permanent resdidents, according to the lawsuit. . .

Doesn't the State of Virginia have the right to face its accusers?

Let them stand up and be seen. And when they entwer the court room...arrest them.

[El Laton Caliente]

Throw their lawyers in jail as well for haboring and aiding a criminal.

[bitcon]

12) Border violators, or any non-citizen not possessing a valid visa, detained by local police for any reason shall be turned over to border control officials for immediate deportation action, except if they face criminal charges in other jurisdictions.


That would drastically hurt trade between Canada and the US.


I think there should be an addition. All people who wish to serve in the US Military and pose no threat the US should get immediate entrance or prefferential treatment.

[frnewsjunkie]

There is a way to stop this "illegal immigrant" stuff.

Go back to the way it used to be. Do not allow any immigrant (illegal of legal) to vote until they are citizens .... and have been here 7 years.

As it is now, the Dems are after the immigrant vote,... and so to win an election, the Repubs also have to be after the immigrant vote.

Remove what is running this train!

[zygoat]

Its time for a NATIONAL RECALL! Although some politicians (Tancreco comes to mind)seem to take Americans' interests to heart, the majority just flow with the status quo!

[Libertarianize the GOP]

ping

[Imagine]

Canadians can get visas just like anybody else. If terrorism and terrorists sneaking in through Canada weren't a problem, then I would agree with you. Untill then, no exceptions.

[Dante3]

A while back Gov. Warner wanted to eliminate out-of-state fees for illegals. One of the conditions was that the illegals and their families move to Virginia.

[Blood of Tyrants]

Andres Tobar, co-chairman of the Immigrant Legal Rights Coalition, said Mr. Kilgore's policy punishes hundreds of high school students whose illegal status is no fault of their own, inasmuch as they were brought in the United States by their parents.

No problemo! Deport them all!

[GunsareOK]

...the illegals and their families move to Virginia...

Like we need more of them.

[doc30]

I thought the newest PC term for "illegal immigrant" was "undocumented entrant." Personally, the illegal immigration favoritism makes us legal immigrants very upset. It costs a small fortune, many legal hurdles and several years for the process to become a legal permanent resident in the U.S. These illegals need to be sent right back to where they came from.

[putupon]

Yeah, I remember. I wonder if the sheeple can come whenever he goes for the Senate. You know our spineless GOP won't make an issue of it.

[Constitutional Patriot]

They have stepped forward and identified themselves as illegal aliens...where the %*#@# is the INS?!?!!?

[putupon]

Like we need more of them.

Now that you mention it, my grass does need cutting.