We removed the fourth verse of the song "America" from the recent music textbooks.

National Public Radio - Your Turn Discussion Group ^ | August 25, 2003 | Phil Stinson

[agrace]

Hey thanks, you reminded me that I needed to print out the lyrics - my six year old and I are scheduled to learn ALL the verses during the first six weeks of first grade, homeschool of course.

[Mrs Zip]

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[Budge]

This should get your heart pumping.

Why do so many people insist we continue calling these people "liberals" when they are in fact COMMUNISTS?

Even Ed Asner said (on FOX) that communism was good, it just hasn't been implemented properly!

How often have we heard THAT bit of garbage?

[B-Chan]

Substitute "Allah" for "God" and I bet you won't be so worked up about it's removal.

You're right, because Allah has nothing whatsover to do with the civic culture of the United States.

The United States is culturally a Judeo-Christian nation, not an Islamic nation. This is reflected in our civic culture, which gives special honor to the Judeo-Christian God alone. The men who created our country were either religiously or culturally Christian to a man, and made frequent reference to the God of Christians and Jews in their writings (including the Declaration of Independence); foreign gods are not mentioned in their writings. Our (legally established) national motto, flag pledge, and national anthem make specific references to the God of the Bible, and the many legislatively established (i.e. state-supported) churches that were created by the legislatures of the several states were all Christian churches.

The idea that Allah could be substituted in any way for the God of the Bible in our civic culture is truly a novelty -- as novel as the idea of a legal separation of church and state. Such a separation did not exist in the United States as originally constituted; the idea that atheism would someday be de jure the established religion of the federal government would have been regarded by the founders of the nation as blasphemous insanity.

Which it is, of course.

[LiteKeeper]

INTREP

[MaryFromMichigan]

"It should really be OUR national anthem. And unlike the Star Bangled Banner, its majestic poetry..."

Yeah, except for that "rocks and rills" part- what is is a "rill" anyway? :)

[StACase]

you forgot to say where this discussion is in the NPR site

Toward the bottom of the list on the welcome page choose "Talk of the Nation." Click on it and "The Ten Commandments" is down a several topics since it was introduced last week.

You might also try "People to People" a few lines below "Talk of the Nation" and click on "NPR Community" The place is a Coffee Klatch of liberals spewing Left Wing hatred. Mr. Stinson is a regular contributor.

[StACase]

I also told them that I was sending a copy of Mr. Stinson's remarks to my senators and congressman

Do a little sleuthing and send it to people in his community.

[StACase]

INTREP

OK, What does INTREP mean?

[maica]

A rill is a brook or stream.

[LiteKeeper]

I am a retired Army officer (artillery, MI, and chaplain). I have the privilege of teaching several classes in Colorado Springs to high school, college, and adults on comparative worldviews (biblical vs secular). As I read the various threads, some impress me as good for illustrating different worldviews. So, using some Army terminology, I mark "incidents" as "SPOTREPS" (spot report) and "descriptions of the current world scene" as "SITREPs" (situation reports). INTREP (Intelligence Report) provides information of an event involving those of the "opposition;" INTSUM (Intelligence Summary) provides more general information. When I get home, I download these SPOTREPs and SITREPs to a database for future use.

Does that help?

[2timothy3.16]

So in summary... Give God his due or you will get yours. ...

I don't think I could argue with your paraphrase.

[StACase]

Does that help?

On a different note, I fail to see the cuteness of the current craze of using initials to represent what the writer thinks should be intuitively obvious. It usually isn't! If I wanted a puzzle, I would pick up the morning newpaper and do the crossword.

[LiteKeeper]

On a different note, I fail to see the cuteness of the current craze of using initials to represent what the writer thinks should be intuitively obvious. It usually isn't! If I wanted a puzzle, I would pick up the morning newpaper and do the crossword.

The "initials" you refer to are not for you, they are for me. So, If you don't like them, ignore them. It is a little like typing "read later" - it is for the author, not the reader. Those are standard terms used in the military for many decades. Of the many people who have asked me about them, you are the first to express concern. Sorry

I guess if you chose to be a ludite, that is your business.