BILL SIMON DROPS OUT OF CAL. RACE (Fox News)

Fox News | August 23, 2003 | nwrep

[nwrep]

Per FOX NEWS

[Roscoe]

Party leaders have ALREADY told McClintock to quit.

Party leaders Arnold staffers have ALREADY told McClintock to quit. So what?

[prarie earth]

You have internal numbers that say McClintock maxes at 15%?

[fieldmarshaldj]

"How noble! And so we have Bustamante as Gov. What an unmitigated disaster in the making."

You guys are denser than steel. The choice between 2 liberals is NO choice.

[summer]

You are correct. You, and I, do not have the desire, drive, and ambition to be that successful.

Your comment could lead into a whole discussion on one's values. Obviously, people who choose to become teachers are not likely to earn $30 million a year - even if those teachers do have the "desire, drive and ambition" to be the very best teacher possible.

I was always turned off by Jon Corzine's candidacy in NJ because here is what he did: (1) Divorced his wife; (2) Dumped his kids; (3) Then ran for NJ senator; (4) Paid a staggering sum of bucks for the seat of power he wanted; and all the while, (5) went around saying he identified SOOOO Much with the Little People.

Well, yes, he won the race, but I still think he doesn't know jack about how his wife or kids or others might think about certain issues. And, yes, people voted for him, but I would not have, for a variety of reasons.

If that's what you mean by "desire, drive and ambition" you're right - I do not have enough of "it."

[LibertyAndJusticeForAll]

Great news. I'm sure he will be rewarded by the GOP in some way at some point in the future.

No doubt there is a call for Mr. Tom McClintock...

[rwfromkansas]

About time.

[Sacajaweau]

I'm worried about one thing and that is the wording of the ballot on the proposition to remove Davis. Does anyone know what the ballot will look like and whether it could cause ANY confusion???? Not that the Dems are sneaky or anything.

[fieldmarshaldj]

Wait a sec... Is it 4% or 15% ? All the RINOs have been running around claiming McClintock is at 4% ! You guys can't even get your propaganda straight !

[rwfromkansas]

Field poll? If so, it isn't very important. If not, it could be serious.

[ConservativeMan55]

He can win. If everyone supports him. It CAN and WILL happen.

[TatieBug]

Simon & Issa are both good men and are dropping out for the good of the people which I admire. If McClintock can't do better, I feel certainly he will do the right thing also. We must WIN and Arnold is our best shot!

[ConservativeMan55]

lol

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

Fox just reported that Arianna paid $700 in federal taxes and ZERO in state taxes for the last two years.

"Well, you know, I just had other things to do with my money. And besides, the little people paid a lot of taxes, and so they didn't really need mine."

Last week she was being questioned, I think by Brit Hume on FOX, and he asked about her low polling numbers. Ariana responded by saying "Well, 45% of people dont' have faith in these polls anyway". And Brit said: "Wasn't that from a poll?". To which Air-head-iana replied: "No, it wasn't a poll, it was a survey!" LOLOLOL!!!! What a moron.

[TheDon]

Demorats count on such feelings to raise taxes on the wealthy. Don't worry about Arianna, it's purely a publicity stunt in her case. No doubt the recall election laws will be promptly updated to prevent candidates of her ilk in the future.

[DoughtyOne]

If Buchanan were to run again, I wouldn't vote for him. I think he made his point and sadly nobody listened. Okay, we're living in the aftermath. Even today folks damn him for his immigration stance, even after 09/11.

He was so demonized by the press and members of his own party, that he is not only unelectable, but if he said the sun comes up and causes daylight, bashers would swarm the thread to call him an anti-Semite racist who was never right in his life.

I voted for Buchanan in 2000. I know where you're coming from. Installing a man the likes of BustAztlante on principle, by thowing your vote away, is a pretty tough sell, even for me.

[strela]

JZ can beat ya blindfolded, baby, so don't even go there.

That's not really something that I'm into, deeje. I leave the weird bedroom fantasies to others.

(Did you ever get BlackElk to show up in here? You sure pinged him or her enough times).

(Nice tagline, by the way. Looks like it was ... changed ... or something).

[Publius6961]

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[TatieBug]

Doing voter registration today...should be interesting. R's have been doing really well since this recall started and hopefully Arnie will bring in some new voters!

[Ciexyz]

McClintock would probably be the best medicine for California - unfortunately, he's too conservative to get elected (my humble opinion).

I agree with you. And I understand the sincere opinions of those who support McClintock. But the "reality question" is something that we Republican conservatives have to consider, and it's happening all across the country. Do we bend a bit and go with a candidate who isn't 100 percent conservative, or do we get on board with a coalition who will give us some of the conservative issues we want, and play with the middle of the roaders and even liberals on other issues?

I'm not a CA resident, so it's their decision. But I personally am excited by Arnold's candidacy. (And I understand and respect the opinions of those on FR who disagree with me.)

[Once-Ler]

What the hell is wrong with Simon. One week he runs negative ads against Rnold then he drops out the next week. What an ass.

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

Arnold should drop out now and endorse McClintock.

Ain't gonna happen, unless somebody has pix of Arnold getting it on with a herd of farm animals.

[Publius6961]

OOOps.
My tag line was abducted by aliens

[rwfromkansas]

Interesting.

We will see. I just can't imagine many folks against Davis being against the recall, but at the same time, hatred at the GOP for trying to "steal the election" could be a big deal since that might motivate Dems against the recall altogether.

[strela]

He can win. If everyone supports him.

I could fly by flapping my arms. If the law of gravity could be repealed.

[Walkin Man]

Are you at all in business or have ever made any money in your lifetime?

Oh, I see, its all about money! Thats all that counts in this world right? To hell with right and wrong! As long as the dollars are rollin in, its a good thing, right??

Yeah, thats the ticket!

I guess Arnie is our guy then because the abortion mills in California are making a KILLING money-wise and in other ways as well! And the future great repuplican leader Arnie is all for it!

Yeah and Arnie is gay agenda friendly to boot! Oh boy!

Funny, Arnie seems to be pro-death as well but...

Boy the MONEY will really be good...

[Ciexyz]

LA is like 80% Democrat.

That low?!

How could someone find employment in the entertainment industry and its supporting fields, without being a card-carrying Dem?

[TheDon]

I was thinking about people who start out with nothing but themselves, and become extremely successful. The money is merely one indicator of success. Can a person become wealthy and remember what it was like to be poor, or at least, not wealthy? You will have to judge that for yourself. Me, I would like to find out for myself. :) Rush and Hannity often talk about what it was like in their "less successful" days.

[prarie earth]

McClintock is in good position right now , Arnold has been in Hollywierd a long time and no doubt we will see someone selling a story trying to make a buck.

Being a strong backup #2 might be a strategic plus right now

[Jeff Gordon]

Los Angeles Times poll shows...

Beware of anything printed in the LA Times.

[strela]

How could someone find employment in the entertainment industry and its supporting fields, without being a card-carrying Dem?

Bruce Willis seems to have found a way.

[ConservativeMan55]

Excellent!! I think I've got the answer to that.

Those who support Arnold are RINO's themselves. Hence, the reason they support a RINO candidate.

[Quix]

I think it is

AT LEAST A 50/50 CHANCE

that negative stuff about Arnold at this point

will ONLY end up causing the common man to identify with Arnold MORE

and against the pontificators and media types ranting about it as well as Grey Sewerwater Davis trying to take advantage of it.

And if Tom McClintock tries to take advantage of it with his smug, slightly condescending, self-righteous demeanor tries to take advantage of it--he will be terminal toast politically for a long time to come.

[ConservativeMan55]

McClintock will be in second place in a week's time, and in first in two weeks time.

[sofaman]

Agreed!

Simple fact: this is a poltical party that encompasses a variety of views.

The lack of tolerance within the Republican Party from a very vocal FEW within the party is what hurts the entire party, by fueling the fire that Republicans are "mean spirited" and "intolerant".

[Precisian]

Bill Simon is to be commended for doing the manly thing.

If Arnold crashes when the sludge attack comes after Labor Day and the GOP fails to recall Davis, Simon would have gotten the brunt of the criticism for waging a vanity campaign. Hugh Hewett and all the "pragmatist RINOs" had already tarketed Simon for this scapegoat role.

If the GOP un-seats Davis, Simon will be clean and heroically poised to take on Boxer or something else, down the road.

Well played, Bill. I know it hurts, but you did the "right thing at the right moment".

[Rockitz]

LA Times= Left-wing rag. Credibility=0

I'm just sorry it took a couple years to learn that.

Signed,

A proud non-subscriber for over 15 years.

[Quix]

Sheesh.

Give us a break. FReepers are way above average in the discernment etc. department.

Just because we articulate complex realities in the political world doesn't mean we are clueless.

Sheesh.

[strela]

Gotta love a true believer.

(And, I love your tagline).

[prarie earth]

Add Clint Eastwood, Tom Selleck, James Woods and Mel Gibson to that list..

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

If the chioce is between Arnold and Bustamonte, It would feel fortunate if it were not Bustamonte. Wouldn't you agree?

[ConservativeMan55]

Thanks!

[prarie earth]

I predict the first Arnie sludge attack will come Labor Day Weekend.

[Bluntpoint]

Gary Coleman's numbers just shot up!

[strela]

Add Clint Eastwood, Tom Selleck, James Woods and Mel Gibson to that list.

I read on another thread that Clint said that he voted for Grayout. Sad if true.

[DoughtyOne]

Most of the people on this forum would gladly watch McClintock sworn in on the capital steps. What I can't understand is why you would rather see BustAzltante voted in over Schwarzenegger. That's what all your negativism is going to gain you if you get your way.

As much as I'd like to see it, McClintock simply isn't going to garner the votes you want him to. The only alternative for you, is Bustamove in office for as long as 12.5 years.

If Schwarzenegger pulls out, McClintock will NOT get all his votes. People are registering just for the sole purpose of voting for Schwarzenegger. Do you think they and the democrats he is pulling over are going to vote for McClintock?

You need to think about this a lot more.

[hole_n_one]

From SFGate.com......

(08-23) 09:38 PDT (AP) --

Forbes said Simon planned to release a statement at 11 a.m. saying: "I strongly believe that the desire of Californians must come before the aspirations of any single candidate. There are too many Republicans in this race and the people of this state simply cannot risk a continuation of the Gray Davis legacy."

Forbes denied Simon's move came in response to any pressure from the party.

"There was absolutely no pressure, no phone calls -- this was a decision made by Bill Simon based on rational conclusions," Forbes said.

He said Simon would not be available for interviews.

Who the hell is "Forbes"?

[prarie earth]

I think Clint is more of a libertarian now.