BILL SIMON DROPS OUT OF CAL. RACE (Fox News)

Fox News | August 23, 2003 | nwrep

[nwrep]

Per FOX NEWS

[prarie earth]

The most recent polling on Thursday had Arnold leading 23-18 over Lt. Gov. Gusto Man Breasts...still close but probably enough of a margin for McClintock to make the arguement to stay in the race.

[summer]

You know, I am actually happy when anyone makes a ton o bucks in this great land of ours - but, as a voter, I do not look at billionaire candidates and think: Ah, yes, that person and I have SOOOO much in common! like the poster here said.

[calcowgirl]

California Republican Bill Simon drops out of Davis recall race

ASSOCIATED PRESS
9:40 a.m., August 23, 2003

LOS ANGELES – Republican Bill Simon dropped out of the gubernatorial recall race Saturday amid calls from party leaders to consolidate support behind fewer candidates, a campaign official said.

Simon campaign spokesman K.B. Forbes confirmed that the Republican, who lost to Gov. Gray Davis in the 2002 race for governor, was dropping his bid to replace Davis if voters decide to oust the governor.

Forbes said Simon planned to release a statement Saturday saying: "I strongly believe that the desire of Californians must come before the aspirations of any single candidate. There are too many Republicans in this race, and the people of this state simply cannot risk a continuation of the Gray Davis legacy."

Forbes denied that Simon's move came in response to any pressure from the party.

"There was absolutely no pressure, no phone calls – this was a decision made by Bill Simon based on rational conclusions," Forbes said.

He said Simon would not be available for interviews.

[TheDon]

Agreed. I'm sure he realizes that as well. As others have pointed out, Tom should stick in it to get his message out and influence Arnold. Who knows, he could take the lead! But, if not, he will do the right thing and drop out. And he will be highly thought of for doing it by most people, in spite of what some of the die hards on FR think. He will also show that we have a Republican Party in Cali, as opposed to a party of individuals who place self interests first.

[DoughtyOne]

Summer, I can understand your consternation at the supposed "Ga ga" factor.  Please understand this first of all.

Cruz Bustamante is a man who is a race baiting, socialist, separatist that would make a 1960s democrat hide under a rock rather than vote for this maggot.

On the other end of the spectrum we have McClintock, a man every conservative would be proud to have as governor.  So far McClintock hasn't pulled over 10% in the polls.  Perhaps some of Simon's votes will enhance that, but even Schwarzenegger seems to be having trouble pulling much more than about 22 to 30% of the polls.

I think it's entirely fair to say some unflattering things about Schwarzenegger, but we shouldn't be the ones doing it.  In the end, he may be the only option we have.  Is he perfect?  No, definately not, far from it.  Now, do we wish to see a separatist in office appointing all his little separatist friends to state posts?  BustAztlante could possibly be governor for 12.5 years.  Do you begin to see why I fail to support the trashing of Arnold Schwarzenegger?

Art Torres, a leading democrat government official for the state and a huge Bustamove supporter said, "Proposition 187 was the last dying gasp of white Americans in California."

We cannot afford to allow Bustamorbid elected.  If that offends some conservatives, I'm definately not sorry.

Those of you who state that this is simply a "Ga ga" factor at work here, mean well, but are making a huge mischaracterization of the real issues at play.

[Quix]

Someone who personally with great sweat and effort

crawled up from near enough to the bottom.

That's who. That's how.

My parents' generation never got out from under the mentality impacted on them during the Great Depression.

It's something similar with Arnold. He has not forgotten his past. He particularly feels keenly about disadvantaged children's education. That's another bit of evidence that he's keenly in touch with his past.

Besides all that--he's smart enough to get professional research if nothing else, regarding the masses and less advantaged. He will run a fascinating if not wonderful campaign, IMHO.

Only something miraculously destructive like a sudden brain anyeurism would hinder him, at this point, IMHO.

And I pray nothing like that happens!

[habs4ever]

Ohhhhhhhhhhh, say it ain't so! Nothing matters and so we shouldn't give a damn, so says you!

Are you at all in business or have ever made any money in your lifetime? I seriously doubt it with that attitude.

[fieldmarshaldj]

I'm well aware of the problems with New England Republicans. I'm well aware of why we blew that open House seat in ME last November. Run a RINO to the left of the 'Rats, and see what you get. That same scare-fest about Conservatives you talk about failed to materialize. Goldwater woke up the party in '64 and made them realize who the REAL enemy was. Telling RINOs to take a hike is the only way to SAVE the party, unless you want the party to look like Massachusetts's where the RINOs killed the party deader than Elvis.

[The KG9 Kid]

Saving himself for a run against Boxer is my bet.

[TheDon]

Agreed. Bustamente has promised an $8 billion tax increase, which translated is probably more like $16 billion. Arnold has promised tax cuts. It's a rather simple choice.

[strela]

As others have pointed out, Tom should stick in it to get his message out and influence Arnold. Who knows, he could take the lead! But, if not, he will do the right thing and drop out. And he will be highly thought of for doing it by most people, in spite of what some of the die hards on FR think. He will also show that we have a Republican Party in Cali, as opposed to a party of individuals who place self interests first.

Hey, you're making sense! On a California recall thread!

I'm scared - hold me.

[summer]

DoughtyOne, I am certain you have a much better grasp of the situation in CA than I will ever have, and again, I only hope the best for CA voters after this recall. I really do hope that, because their economy out there is a significant percentage of the nation's economy.

[fieldmarshaldj]

"Facts don't matter that much."

After seeing the RINO Ah-nold propaganda and shilling in this thread, you got that right.

[habs4ever]

You don't have time for that anymore.

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

The poll is having the affect they hoped for, though. Same as the one last weekend.

Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner! Yes it's the old, tried and true, management of public opinion by conducting and reporting manipulated polling. The dims are masters of this technique. Even Goebbels is a piker compared to this generation of liars.

[JohnnyZ]

Is it "trolling" to point out what somebody actually said?

What was actually said was that a $30m man is not a regular guy. Which is quite simply true. You turned it into some kind of commie thing, which makes you a

TROLL

[Walkin Man]

We MUST NOT have Davis and ESPECIALLY not have Bustamonte as the winner in this race. If we get Arnold, we're very fortunate.

You are right, I can't vote in the election but if I could I would never pull the lever for a leftist lib RINO like Arnie, I garrruntee!

They should provide showers at the polls so all the republicans who feel dirty after voting for Arnie can try to clean up again! (sorry...won't work!)

If you people elect him, you will get the kind of government you deserve...sadly.

[rolling_stone]

Tell me how anyone who makes $30 million a year could even know about a "car tax," let alone want to eliminate

Probably the same way a reformed democrat now independent in Florida would even think they know something about the politics in California...

[sofaman]

Completely agree. McClintock maybe a terrific guy and a solid conservative but he has no shot at election.

If the Republican Party wants to win, they had better unite behind one candidate that is moderate enough to appeal to moderate Democrats in CA.

CA is a Democrat state at present and I would rather take a smaller step right, than lose going for broke.

[fieldmarshaldj]

"If we get Arnold, we're very fortunate."

Sure -- if you're a 'Rat. Watch the smiles on their faces while he proceeds to "terminate" the GOP from within.

[summer]

He has not forgotten his past.

Well, I think he has a very touching life story, from what I know of it.

But so do others in this country.

Also, some say there is much about Arnold's "part" that is about to come out, and is "not pretty" -- according to an article posted on Drudge. I have no idea what that may mean in terms of Arnold's past. But I suspect the fairy tale that is currently Arnold may have a few other chapters to it, if what others are hinting turns out to be true.

[strela]

What was actually said was that a $30m man is not a regular guy. Which is quite simply true. You turned it into some kind of commie thing

I said nothing about "commies". You fail - try again.

[Ciexyz]

Wow!

[summer]

Arnold's "part" = Arnold's "past"

[Chu Gary]

Battnan,

Here's an opinion which differs from your own but from a different angle, You wrote,

"Is this what I want - of course not. McClintock would probably be the best medicine for California - unfortunately, he's too conservative to get elected (my humble opinion). Terminator represents the GOP's best odds for winning the election, but he's really a liberal with a more moderate fiscal viewpoint."

Prior to the current festivities in Iraq, the British press and all the liberal journalists loved PM Tony Blair and most of us, who call ourselves conservative, had reservations about him, some even despised him. Now, he's revered, he stepped up, but, in all likelihood, when all the conflict is over, he'll revert to his previous self.

After all is settled, how do we deal with the Tony issue?

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

Party leaders have ALREADY told McClintock to quit. Like Simon, he'll be gone from the race before Labor Day. It's 43 days and counting...and the field needs to be cleared and have only 1 viable GOP choice.

Yes. McClintock has little money and he will get no suport from the party or affiliated organizations. He's finished. It's Arnold vs Cruz.

[DoctorZIn]

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[TheDon]

Good for her. The less taxes we pay the better!

[ConservativeMan55]

Go Tom Go! Tom McClintock for Governor!!!!

[fieldmarshaldj]

Yup, but you still have federal officeholders and enough legislators to have a say on the budget. Yes, it can get FAR worse, and will with Ah-nold.

[TheDon]

You are correct. You, and I, do not have the desire, drive, and ambition to be that successful.

[ConservativeMan55]

Desire, Drive, and Ambition. Three things that you choose to have. Those aren't given to you.

[summer]

Probably the same way... Well, you're obviously not talking about me here, since I have said repeatedly that I am not in CA and don't know as much as those people do about this race. But, thanks for your post to me. Nice to meet you, too. :)

[sofaman]

THE reason that Bustamante will be elected Governor.

"Well, I will not compromise my principles!"

How noble! And so we have Bustamante as Gov. What an unmitigated disaster in the making.

[Howlin]

It may be just me, but I don't want somebody running my state and telling me why they need to raise MY taxes when they manage to NOT pay any at all.

[fieldmarshaldj]

"With that winning outlook on things, you may as well curl up and die."

You just don't get it do you ? RINOs KILL the GOP, it's that simple. You can deny it from now until doomsday, but it doesn't change that fact, period.

[DoughtyOne]

Let me see, McClintock tops out at 15% and Arnold never exceedes 25%. Now there's a dream come true for someone...

Would that be a person from DU or from FR?

[CatoRenasci]

I don't blame them, 'cause Arnold's definitely not an ideal candidate from a conservative viewpoint, but I think they're nuts if they think McClintock can win. California conservatives simply have to choose what's more important: a Republican governor to slow the lefties and help Bush in 2004 or helping Bustamonte keep total Demoncrat control of California until it becomes Mexifornia.

[ChewedGum]

How noble! And so we have Bustamante as Gov. What an unmitigated disaster in the making.

Disaster for CA in the short term, yes. But what does that mean for the GOP in the future of the state? It is Dem policies that spawned this disaster...

Gum

[Howlin]

Exactly.

[jocon307]

"El Gusto Breasts"

LOL, i love the way that's caught on. Cruz Bustamante, you gotta admit, it's a great Cal-I-for-NIA name, as Ahrnold would say.

It makes me think of American Grafitti, the Chicano version.

[ConservativeMan55]

McClintock can and will win.

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

Real Republicans in California want a true conservative here, but, most of all, REAL Republicans do NOT want Cruz Bustamonte or Gay-I'd-sell-my-soul-to-the-devil-for-a-vote Davis as our governor. In my world, I'd have McClintock as our governor, but not everyone shares my ideals. We MUST NOT have Davis and ESPECIALLY not have Bustamonte as the winner in this race. If we get Arnold, we're very fortunate.

Well said.

[Ciexyz]

Thanks for posting those stats (Post #35). Yes, it's the leftie LA-LA Times trying to convince the country that the recall is losing steam. Ha! It's only "losing steam" because their Demopuke slate is tanking!

[fieldmarshaldj]

JZ can beat ya blindfolded, baby, so don't even go there.

[Roscoe]

he will get no suport from the party

Nobody does. It's pretty broke.

[DoughtyOne]

The dirt on Schwarzenegger will be released about 72 to 48 hours before the election. There will be no opportunity to respond. It may drive the vote between 2 and 7 percent away from him.

[fieldmarshaldj]

"He's finished. It's Arnold vs Cruz."

Then California's finished.

[strela]

McClintock can and will win ...

... these lovely parting gifts, from Dicker and Dicker of Beverly Hills.

Schwarzenegger will win the Governor's race though.

[CatoRenasci]

No, he can't. Just won't happen.