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THE BALKANS: Gangsters and Albanian Nationalism
strategypage.com ^ | August 17, 2003 | Q & D Headlines

Posted on 08/21/2003 8:46:16 AM PDT by Destro

THE BALKANS: Gangsters and Albanian Nationalism

August 17, 2003: It appears the new spate of violence in Kosovo that began in late June has yet to taper off. The Albanian National Army (ANA) is now back to shooting at Kosovar police. This incident took place inside Serbia, across the Kosovo border. The ANA fired on a Serb police post. No one was killed. The attack on the police post follows two other attacks across the Serb-Kosovo border where the ANA claimed to have fired mortars at a Serb military compound and fired at a police patrol. Also on August 17, in the Kosovo village of Gorazdevak, two Serb children were shot at by a sniper. The children--fortunately-- were not hit. However, since June several similar attacks have occurred, with fatalities. Call it what it is --- a continued low-level civil war with "ethnic cleansing." This time the Serbs are the victims. UNMIK is trying to stop it. What keeps the ANA in business? Crime --mostly smuggling and corruption.

August 18, 2003: Someone, probably Albanians, opened fire on a group of Serbian children in Kosovo. No one was hurt. Many Albanians expect Kosovo to become an independent state, or merge with Albania, and are armed and willing to fight for this. But they will have to fight Kosovo Serbs and NATO peacekeepers to make this happen.

August 17, 2003: The Albanian National Army (ANA) has taken credit for a recent attack on Serbian police (which hurt no one).

August 14, 2003: UNMIK reported two Kosovo Serb teenagers were shot to death in the village of Zahac. Five people were wounded, including a Kosovar Albanian woman. Witnesses reported attackers opened fired with machine guns on the teenagers as they were swimming in the Bistrica River. It was feared that this incident would trigger another round of fighting between armed Serbs and Albanians.


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1 posted on 08/21/2003 8:46:17 AM PDT by Destro
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To: Destro
The US can invade foreign countries to brong down trrorists, but the poor Serbs aren't even allowedto stop terrorism in their own country. Either the UN/NATO gets serious about destroying these terrorist groups, or I'm afraid the Serbs will decide they need another Milosevic (not that he ever did a thing to defend Kosovo), and it will be right back to the way things were a few years ago. The Serbian people can only tolerate this for so long before they decide to solve the problem themselves.
2 posted on 08/21/2003 11:29:47 AM PDT by RadojeS (Bolje grob nego rob!)
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To: RadojeS
The problem is that the Serbs are kept out of their province by an atrificual barrier--the forces of NATO and the USA. The Albanians will never be strong enough to stop Serbian armored divisions. These divisions of course are not up top NATO standards in terms of equipment and strength but more than enough to defeat Albanian light infantry forces.

The artificial and incorrect Clintonian policy that the Bush admin inherited (and continues) only created the set up for the next Albanian disaster. This will include settling of scores in the South by FYROM and very possibly Greece and Northern Epirus.

3 posted on 08/21/2003 12:35:45 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
The best Serb allies are poor innocent Albanians themselves.

NCIS 2003 annual assessment of serious and organised crime in U.K

"However, there are signs that criminals from the Balkans, especially ethnic Albanians, where there is a large vice trade, are seeking to gain control of the trade in the UK. They are doing so particularly by taking over ownership of brothels and saunas, and are prepared to use violence to achieve this. While there have been some recent law enforcement successes in targeting the traffickers, it appears prostitutes who are arrested or deported can be replaced within days."

Mop up will start very soon.

4 posted on 08/21/2003 12:56:48 PM PDT by DTA
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To: Destro; Incorrigible; Wraith; DTA; Gael; Archie Bunker on steroids
The stunning victory of the Kosovo Liberation Army versus Yugoslav forces in 1999 set a new standard for combat operations in the emerging 21st century. Landed free-men -- in the finest Western tradition -- went toe to toe with post-Soviet style conventional forces and emerged triumphant under the leadership and direction of the United States of America.

Subsequently, in 2001, the Tetovo Republic was defended from slavic aggression by the descendents of Ancient Illyria. Combined with American executed destabilisaton operations against the illegal FYROM government in Skopje, veteran Albanian stosstruppen humbled the Macedonian regime in a series of battles reminiscent of wehrmacht strikes some three score years earlier in their billiance of planning and flawless execution.

Thus Greater Albania emerged as the dominant force in the Balkans -- an equal partner with the United States of America in fanning the raging flames of Albanianism throughout Europe. Albanianism: The last hope of all mankind -- the salvation of a people long oppressed by slavic armies and New World Order hegemonists.

Now is the time for Kosovo independence. The modern day Bismarck -- George W Bush -- amidst his stunning triumph in World War III has signalled a green light to Albanian elements throughout the region. America understands that a vibrant Greater Albanian empire in the Balkans will bring peace to a troubled region -- and permit precious resources of blood and treasure to be transferred to Iraq and the coming battle with Tehran.

Should Serbia join the outlaw nations of the world by unilaterally attacking a sovereign state in the name of 'self-defence' -- such a pre-emptive strike will see Belgrade once more the world's pariah. Then once again the Kosovo Liberation Army must rise up to defend Kosovo province and the Tetovo Republic while reclaiming the Albanian territory of the Presevo Valley.

Belgrade must immediately renounce her illegal claims on Greater Albanian territory. Should Serbia refuse to do so then the Tirana-Prishtina axis reserves the right to strike first -- in 'self-defence'.

The forces of freedom on the move. Europe trembles.

5 posted on 08/21/2003 1:18:03 PM PDT by Fusion
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To: Fusion; Destro; Incorrigible
Albanianism: The last hope of all mankind -- the salvation of a people long oppressed by slavic armies

You've sold me Fusion. How do I become one of these superior peoples? Where do I sign up?

6 posted on 08/21/2003 9:14:16 PM PDT by Archie Bunker on steroids
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To: Fusion; Destro; Incorrigible; Wraith; DTA; Gael; Archie Bunker on steroids; wonders; ...
Fusion good to see your back up and being Fusion. I hope you are well. Got to have that other point of view. Once along time ago in the Balkans of course, I believe it was in 1992 in southern Croatia, the Krajina Serbs in the area of Okucani were relentlessly sniping at the Croat civilians. Seen one victim leaking on the slab on one very rainy day with about 20 to 30 entry and exit wounds. In some cases these incidents turned into bloody ambushes. What’s new in the Balkans? This of course continued relentlessly until one day 3 Serbs took a little walk armed to the teeth towards the Croat town of Nova Gradiska and of course just crossed the line into Croat territory. One very on the ball Croat sniper opened up on the wan bee bushwhackers. As a going away present the stated sniper put one 7.62 NATO round from an H&K right between the shoulder blades of one of these dudes who was subsequently carried away by his two one in three chance buddies. The incursions stopped pretty damb quick and once again some peace in the shit hole. Then came operation "Storm" which was another chapter in the .

There of course is a moral to this sad little story and that is don't agitate because one will get whats coming. The Serbs are not fools Fusion, by any stroke of the imagination. The KLA, NLA, ANA, M.i.c.k.e.y. M.o.u.s.e or what ever they are called these days had better be prepared to deal with one big steam roller. Tetevo is still part of Macedonia and will always remain as such. You must remember that this so called greater Albania that is fueled by donkey carts is no match for Serbia, Macedonia and Greece whose territories Albania claims is there’s. Yes Fusion Serbia's allies in waiting and don't forget the Russians. The Kosovar Albanians did not kick out the Serbs, the combined forces of NATO did and who could stop that. Why do you give these KLA fools so much credit? Yes Fusion these former criminals, misfits with delusions of grandeur have finally made it in life and most of all they now belong to something that they feel gives them purpose. So much purpose in fact they need to express themselves by shooting little Serb children in a river in Kosovo. No different than the Red room Fusion, don't you think?

As things progress with the Terrorist problem in more serious parts of the world, the U.S. who are starting to get really stretched thin, will leave Kosovo in the hands of the European Nato Allies in order to deploy elsewhere. The Serbs will again return to administer Kosovo either in self defense or jointly with NATO. The ANA will again be back in their little holes in the hills wondering who the hell is going to come and save them this time and of course how many of their own civilians will it take to get some more attention. Their savior will not be the Albanian military. There is of course always a shortage of donkey transport in Albania. The Albanian National Army give me a break. Meanwhile the Dragonovs are pointing across the border waiting for the Children killers to come back i.e. meat on the table. I hope the Serbs range in on a few of these soulless sons of bitches and paralyze them from the neck down as a warning to the rest of these KLA cowards.

The wind is good and Darkness is no problem (to a Dragonov)

Wraith

7 posted on 08/22/2003 8:12:00 AM PDT by Wraith
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To: Wraith
KLA murdered more than 2000 Kosovo Albanians after Kosovo 'liberation'. There is more than 100,000 Albanians in Belgrade alone whose families were terrorized by KLA . They will be glad to see KLA scum being pushed back into Albania.

Serbs are already punished and demonized in the world public opinion, they have nothing to lose. Only to gain by such action.

Pathetic Wesley KLArk met in Pristina with Bujar Bukoshi and KLA terrorists about the plans for Great Albania. Sweet dreams, Wes, this ain't gonna happen. His paymaster will stay empty handed in Kosovo.

8 posted on 08/22/2003 10:27:03 AM PDT by DTA
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To: *balkans
The return of Wraith, Fusion, and a very timely topic bump.
9 posted on 08/22/2003 12:12:50 PM PDT by getoffmylawn (No, they're winning in SPITE of Jerry Manuel.)
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To: DTA
There is more than 100,000 Albanians in Belgrade alone

I doubt there are even 10,000 Albanians in Belgrade. Where did you hear this?

10 posted on 08/23/2003 7:13:16 AM PDT by Seselj
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To: Wraith; Incorrigible; DTA; getoffmylawn; nikola; Archie Bunker on steroids; Ranger; Gael
Wraith it is good to hear from you and know that you are still out there fighting the good fight. There can be little doubt the Greater Albania phenomenon has taken the Balkans by storm -- now an amazing convergence of events prepares to propel the descendents of Ancient Illyria to increased levels of prosperity and self-determination.

Should we survive the coming firestorm, some twenty years hence we will read in great detail as the historians describe these early phases of World War III. The early campaigns of conquest/self-defence that saw the United States and Great Britain romp to victory after victory in Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran and Syria dominated the era. Alas the Balkan campaigns that preceeded and continued during World War III will merit not much more than a footnote...

However some historians will rightly recognise that the decision by the neo-conservatives in Washington, DC to encourage the expansionist dreams of Greater Albania played a key role in the Anglo-Allied triumph in The Third World War. By stabilising the Balkans and neutralising revisionist Slavic elements that sought to continue a programme of resistance to Western market development, the veteran Albanian kampfgruppen permitted the modern day Bismarck -- George W Bush -- to extricate critical US forces from Bosnia and Kosovo prior to the Islamic entente worldwide counter-offensive.

As you know, these forces helped hold the crumbling line until a quarter million US reservists could be mobilised...

The bottom line is that the neo-conservatives run the entire world right now whether the United Nations likes it or not. Most of the senior leadership would have a hard time finding Prishtina or Kukes or Lake Ohrid on a map -- however they don't need to. They have their own people reporting to them and they make their own call. They have reevaluated the situation in the Balkans and are looking for an exit strategy. Kosovo independence is the most cost-effective way of reaching the specific strategic goals of the World War so they are pushing it now.

Any that stand in their way will be crushed...

You can kid yourself about Serb legions rolling back through the hills but it will never happen. Nationalistic Serb elements are being neutralised -- either bought off or thrown in prison. Younger Serbs care little for Kosovo as long as the rock and roll in Belgrade is loud and frenetic...

Your friend Mr D rumoured to have spent much of the Summer roaming Greater Albania. His Balkan strategy paper delivered to the neo-cons in DC last week outlining the coming moves for the Administration in securing Kosovo independence and continued economic growth for Albania. In a time of enormous deficits his programme outlines how a dollar invested in Albania and Kosovo independence yields twenty dollars down the line. If you ever drop by one of Grover Norquist's Wednesday meetings he might be there and I'm sure he would be glad to slip you a copy of the report...

So backing greater Albania an easy call for the Administration. It saves money and frees up troops -- and they will be needing plenty of both during this next decade...

Millions will die in The Third World War. Serb youngsters need only look as far as Chechnya to see the type of war they don't want to die in. Greater Albania armed to the teeth and more than ready for a fight should Belgrade be so foolish as to invade once more...

So Wraith I suspect Kosovo independence will be here before we know it and then everybody can go home satisfied with a job well done. Greater Albania will rule the Balkans for a Golden Age lasting centuries and the Serbs -- well they can make beer and not war...

And if you've ever enjoyed that fine Banja Luka pivo known as Nektar then you know what I mean...

The forces of freedom on the move. Europe trembles.

11 posted on 08/23/2003 3:31:35 PM PDT by Fusion
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I read your home page. You left out the most important information of all... Cubs or Sox?
13 posted on 08/24/2003 10:08:59 AM PDT by getoffmylawn (I am zee author!! I out rank you!!)
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To: Fusion; Wraith; Incorrigible; DTA; getoffmylawn; nikola; Archie Bunker on steroids; Ranger; Gael; ..
So backing greater Albania an easy call for the Administration. It saves money and frees up troops -- and they will be needing plenty of both during this next decade...

Well the line in the sand has been drawn and all that waits Fusion is someone to cross it, and they will. The Albanians can only enjoy independence as long as NATO is baby sitting the boarders. I find it quite amusing listening to how cocky the KLA are with all that NATO firepower kicking around. Independence? What, the Albanians all alone to ensure the Serbs stay out? Fusion these ANA or what ever they are calling themselves these days are nothing but a criminal rabble who only understands the concept of shooting an unarmed opponent in the back, then running away. This can not force independence. They do not have a chance in hell of preventing the Serbs from coming back. Remember the line is drawn and when the KLA decide to hug Bin Laden and his boys even more so because they have never stopped, they will have cut their own throats because it would have become to obvious. The Albanians can't even run their own country let alone invade another and with what? Armored donkeys? Tetavo was but a mire fart in the scheme of things. The Kosovar Albanians had a chance of peacefully voting like East Timor for independence but they had to start killing the Serb men women and now children. They had the opportunity to democratically do this but their criminal nature of course took a hold of them and back into the sewer did any chance of independence go. Recak was just stop on the way and Rugova the only chance, is spent. With the Islamic world starting to boil and the Balkans once again the front lines, the Serbs will become hardened Western Allies. The line is drawn Fusion and it will only take some time for it to be realized. Never the less their will always be a surplus of donkeys in Albania. What was Latif Gashi using to haul all those guns from Albania to Kosovo, it had four legs, two long ears and was complaining all the way. Real sophistication. Wondered what happened to the donkey?

14 posted on 08/25/2003 7:10:40 PM PDT by Wraith
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To: Wraith; Fusion; Incorrigible; DTA; getoffmylawn; alternatediscourse; joan
Must be old homey week. My best to all.

I think I've seen this flick before: Drenica 1944-48, RIP Shabhan Palluzha and, inter alia, Rugova père and grand-père. Different generation, same result, once the occupation forces have gone. You're spot on Wraith, but if memory serves didn't you support the 1998-99 NATO aggression? Second thoughts?

So Fusion, Mr. D attends the weekly shindigs? Perhaps I'll run into him there. Hardly a neocon group though.

15 posted on 08/26/2003 6:49:58 AM PDT by Gael (Tag line (optional, printed after your name on post):)
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To: Gael; Wraith; Fusion; tonycavanagh; *balkans; vooch; Destro; Seselj; PiP PiP Cherrio; ...
Yeah!!!!

I presume Tony Cavanagh is still on active duty somewhere in the mideast. Hope he's staying cool and lurking on FR every now and then!
16 posted on 08/26/2003 5:00:31 PM PDT by Incorrigible
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To: DTA; alternatediscourse
DTA writes: "Mop up will start very soon."

From Reality Macedonia
NATO 'Rehearses' War In The Balkans
http://www.nato.int/kfor/press/pr/pr/2003/08/05.htm

"NATO and Partner units to be involved in real-world Peace Support Operations practicing and validating operational concepts and familiarizing units with terrain and environment. Their presence also sends a clear message of NATO and the International Community’s strong resolve and
commitment to maintain peace and stability in the
overall Balkans region."

AD - why are you so sure this administrations long term goals are in support of the albanian "cause"? Give me a link..pictures..anything.
17 posted on 08/26/2003 11:51:09 PM PDT by getgoing
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To: getoffmylawn
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Aha!! Musta been a Cubs fan.

18 posted on 08/27/2003 5:21:40 AM PDT by getoffmylawn (I am zee author!! I out rank you!!)
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To: DTA; Destro
The best Serb allies are poor innocent Albanians themselves.

Cum grano salis. The Albanians are a tribal people, divided into clans. The "poor and innocent" owe their allegiance, first to their tribe. Any notion of these Muslim Albanians living harmoniously, or integrating with non-Albanians anywhere, is seriously misguided. It is possible, as it was in Yugoslavia, when they are very much in the minority. As soon as they outbreed their neighbors, and this is rather easily accomplished with 20 or 30 children per family, they will be on the warpath. Not a question of "if," but "when."

When, as a result of their population explosion and immigration from Albania, Kosovo was granted a measure of autonomy in the waning days of communist Yugoslavia, the Albanians began the round of "Ethnic Cleansing" which continues to this day.

My question has been and remains ... What is wrong with Albanians living in Albania? It is large, it is rich in many resources, and could easily support them all. The only drawback seems to be that if Albanians are at home, they will revert back to the intertribal warfare which in the past, kept their numbers manageable. Whatever their leaders are, they have discovered this and keep them on the move toward some Greater Albania, at everyone else's expense.

This alliance with the colorful and quaint Albanians is a giant foreign policy blunder. THe only way to handle them is to put them on a reservation with controlled borders, called Albania.

19 posted on 08/27/2003 7:40:36 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk
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To: Fusion; Destro; Wraith; DTA
Yes comrades, there are many of us who anxiously wait as our colorful, quaint, and loyal allies establish the Greater Albania. Gloriously it shall stretch from Vladivostok in the East to Toledo (OH) in the West, and from Buenos Aires to Ottowa in the other direction.

Greater Albania! No longer will our comrades have to walk many long, cold blocks to a brothel, or to buy heroin. Mercedes Benz autos (slightly used) and the spare parts to keep them running, will be easily available. The Tirana Lottery will be mandatory.

Yes! The Greater Albania. Coming to a neighborhood near yours ...soon!

20 posted on 08/27/2003 7:50:34 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk
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