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Jerusalem Bomber had American Ar-15 variant rifle in Martyr Video??
yahoo ^ | 8/20/03 | JerseyHighlander

Posted on 08/20/2003 2:20:18 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander

The bastard who did this owned a CAR-15 (I believe), given to his organization by Bill Clinton.

Bill Clinton indirectly armed this SOB.

A Hamas member who identifies himself as Raed Abdel-Hamid Mask is seen in this video frame grab taken from a videotape released by Hamas in the West Bank city of Hebron August 19, 2003, as he says he will carry out a suicide bombing to avenge Israel's killing of one of the group's members. The Islamic group Hamas said it was responsible for a suicide bombing aboard a Jerusalem bus that killed at least 20 people, an attack claimed earlier by another Palestinian militant group. Earlier on Tuesday, the Islamic Jihad group said in a statement to Lebanon's al-Manar television that it carried out the attack, which police said wounded more than 80 people. REUTERS/Reuters TV
A Hamas member who identifies himself as Raed Abdel-Hamid Mask is seen in this video frame grab taken from a videotape released by Hamas in the West Bank city of Hebron August 19, 2003, as he says he will carry out a suicide bombing to avenge Israel's killing of one of the group's members. The Islamic group Hamas said it was responsible for a suicide bombing aboard a Jerusalem bus that killed at least 20 people, an attack claimed earlier by another Palestinian militant group. Earlier on Tuesday, the Islamic Jihad group said in a statement to Lebanon's al-Manar television that it carried out the attack, which police said wounded more than 80 people. REUTERS/Reuters TV


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abbas; albright; ar15; arafat; bang; barak; busbombing; car15; clinton; gun; nobel; weapon
I don't have the expertise, or familiarity with ar-15 rifles having been raised in the Socialist People's Republic of New Jersey (Thank you Florio), to know exactly what rifle this SOB is holding. Did our tax dollars pay for this man's weapons?
1 posted on 08/20/2003 2:20:18 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: JerseyHighlander
Why'd he holding a weapon of the infidel?

Here's my response:

http://home.comcast.net/~jmcno/
2 posted on 08/20/2003 2:24:09 AM PDT by Monty22
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To: Monty22

3 posted on 08/20/2003 2:24:47 AM PDT by Monty22
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To: GnL; HBAR223; Boundless; SJSAMPLE; glock rocks; red-dawg; chuknospam; Cpu; Squantos; ...
This is a bumplist from an older ar15 thread, if you wouldn't mind chiming in on the make of that model, and any info you know about Clinton arming the PA police in years past...
4 posted on 08/20/2003 2:27:45 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: Monty22
Would you say that that is a Car-15? My experience with them is too limited to be able to determine which derivative of 15 I'm looking at.
5 posted on 08/20/2003 2:29:40 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: JerseyHighlander
Mine's a CAR-15, but his is most likely a military M4 or variant.
6 posted on 08/20/2003 2:30:42 AM PDT by Monty22
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Arming Arafat
Yes, we’re to blame.

By Seth Gitell, political writer of the Boston Phoenix
September 5, 2001 12:40 p.m.

 

n the wake of President George Bush's decision to pull out of the United Nations Conference on Racism, the anti-Israel extremists are training their rhetorical fire on America — not just for refusing to be a party to the outrageous and gratuitous spectacle taking place in Durban, South Africa. Now comes the claim from Yasser Arafat and his allies that America must crack down on Israel, because, after all, Israel is relying on American-made weaponry. Following the elimination of Abu Ali Mustafa, the leader of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, for example, a Palestinian resident of the building in which he lived asked "why is the American government letting them use American-made weapons to do this?" "We hate Israel for this," one Palestinian told Newsweek after an Israeli strike in Nablus. "But we hate America more."

The refrain has been taken up by Durban protesters, carrying signs with the message that America has blood on its hands due to the attacks, by Palestinian diplomats, and by pro-Palestinian groups in the United States. But as skilled as Arafat is at agitprop, he and his friends have erred in their current campaign. Even as Israel finds it necessary to strike at terrorists preparing future attacks, Palestinian gunmen are raining bullets down upon Israeli Jews in cities and towns throughout the region. Snipers in the village of Beit Jala, in particular, have been relentless in firing upon not just members of the Israel Defense Forces, but Israelis of all ages in neighboring Gilo. And guess whose weapons many of them are using in their indiscriminate acts of terror? American ones.

While the Palestinian Authority and its allies have been quite outspoken about the American weaponry on the side of their enemy, they have been silent on the M-16 assault rifles and other weapons they are using against Israel. We don't hear anyone — Israel included — calling on the Bush administration to crack down on Arafat for permitting the misuse of American guns. Nobody's even asking where Arafat and his minions got these guns. Of course, there was a time when Israel never had to worry about sniper attacks so close to Jerusalem: before the start of the Oslo process.

Part of the reason for the lack of discussion about the guns is that they came from Israel itself at America's urging. At the time Yitzhak Rabin signed the Oslo Agreement with Arafat in 1993, Israel agreed to arm a Palestinian police force. The theory of the day — hard as it seems to believe today — was that Arafat would employ his police to crack down on Hamas and Islamic Jihad. To this end, Israel transferred thousands of automatic weapons to Arafat's men — many of these were Russian-made AK-47s, but others were American M-16s. The United States pushed the plan. "There is a very strong case to be made that America is to be blamed for the weapons," says Gal Luft, a former Israeli lieutenant colonel and doctoral candidate at Johns Hopkins University.

America's culpability doesn't end with the guns. We helped train Arafat's soldiers as well. Philadelphia's then-mayor, Ed Rendell, welcomed Arafat's "police" to the City of Brotherly Love after the Oslo Agreement was signed. The men came to Philadelphia for a 12-week course. Not everyone was oblivious to the danger this posed. One prescient writer, opining in the pages of the Philadelphia Jewish Exponent in May 1995, predicted the police force "now undergoing intensive intelligence training at Philadelphia police headquarters, may use what it learns in Philly to fight IDF and Israeli civilians in the ... war to liberate Jerusalem." A 1998 editorial in the Jewish weekly Forward called these troops "Rendell's Rifles."

The Clinton administration ignored all warnings about the nature of the Palestinian police — and the thousands of illegal guns being smuggled into the PA in addition to those legally transferred — as unhelpful to the peace process. President Clinton even instructed his DCI, director of Central Intelligence, George Tenet, to instruct the Palestinians on intelligence gatherings — techniques which can now be used against Israel.

Luft, the Israeli expert, now figures there are up to 100,000 automatic weapons circulating around the Palestinian Authority, many of these American-made for use by men trained by America, or with America's blessing. Of course, pointing this out now doesn't make the guns any less deadly. Nor will it silence the critics who so want to blame the United States for permitting Israel to exercise self-defense.

It would be nice to believe that the Bush administration refuses to engage in an internal inquiry into the use of American-made weapons by Israel for the highest of reasons — that Israel as our ally has a right to defend itself as it sees fit. At the least, it seems that a lengthy inquiry into the question of whether Israel used the weapons in self-defense simply serves Arafat's goal of constantly questioning the legitimacy of Israel's actions. Still, a word questioning Arafat and his use of weaponry might adequately defuse the mean-spirited bickering over Israel and how it defends itself.


7 posted on 08/20/2003 2:40:33 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: JerseyHighlander
This idiot can get a high-capacity magazine, and you can't.

BLOAT.
8 posted on 08/20/2003 3:51:52 AM PDT by gridlock (Remember: PC Kills.)
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To: JerseyHighlander
I am shocked that the US STIILL supports, enables, and finances murderers like Arafat/Abbas/etc.

I am shocked that the State Dept. dares to harbor, enable, and support terrorists.


The victims.

The enablers and financers of child murder, innocent deaths, FOR TWO YEARS AFTER 911.
Please wake up, America!!!!!!



9 posted on 08/20/2003 4:25:35 AM PDT by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us)
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To: JerseyHighlander
bump for later
10 posted on 08/20/2003 4:30:43 AM PDT by two23
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To: Monty22
Bayonet lug and a pistol grip? That's an < gasp > assault weapon.
11 posted on 08/20/2003 6:35:13 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (A flash mob of one.)
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To: KarlInOhio
A pre-ban :P
12 posted on 08/20/2003 8:18:22 AM PDT by Monty22
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To: JerseyHighlander
Israeli gangsters have sold many M-16s to the Palestinians.
13 posted on 08/20/2003 10:53:42 AM PDT by jordan8
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