Overblown ogre of 'outsourcing'

The Washington Times ^ | 18 Aug 03 | By Bruce Bartlett

[Dane]

Meaning, we hadn't moved our plants and jobs abroad yet.

Excuse me you must have been on Mars when they were destroying Toyotas in front of the UAW headquarters back in 82.

[txhurl]

Cars alone don't count in this argument.

[harpseal]

Getting govt involved, dictating terms of how people ought to act, buy goods, live is patently socialistic, nay communist.

Agreed that is why I oppose such measures tariffs are however a tool for protecting the Free Market with the the juridiction of the USA from criminal and predatory activities by those not subject to the jurisdiction of the USA. In short tariffs are the tax that is paid for the privledge of importing goods to the USA. There is no Constitutional right to import goods services or people to the United States of America. See Article I of the US Constitution.

I strongly support a Free Market I do not strongly support the government subsidies, of the current trade system and that means any government subsidy not just a subsidy by the US government. Tariffs provide isolation from the foreign subsidies (For example see airbus or just about any industry in China). Adam Smith the intellectual father of Free market theory posited that tariffs are justified in four circumstance including national defense and retaliation to name two of the four. Now since one of the tenets of Marxism as practiced in the twentieth Century I find your association of tariffs with taht abomination offensive in the extreme. I presume you would call Alexander Hamilton a Marxist because you disagree with his stand on tariffs.

[ex-snook]

Reagan was for free trade but not for exporting jobs. e.g. 50% tariff to save the Harley hogs, quotas on steel and machine tool imports, defending computer chips against Hitachi dumping. His actions brought union support and the Reagan-Democrats to the GOP. Bush would be wise to emulate.

[Dane]

Cars alone don't count in this argument.

Yep let's just forget history. The US economy has gone through this before, with the big contractions in the steel and car industries in the late 70's and early 80's, and we are still here.

It is now happeneing after the dot com bubble. Some people move on, and find opprotunites elsewhere, others whine.

OH BTW, Wal-Mart is saying today that their sales projections are going to be on the high end.

You know the corporation that is the #1 retailer in the world, where people snap up cheap priced goods.

If their goods were pieces of crap, do you think that they would still be the #1 retailer?

[txhurl]

Your boundless enthusiasm is touching but not quite contagious.

But thanks anyway.

[Dane]

Your boundless enthusiasm is touching but not quite contagious

Yeah I guess, compared to your doom and gloom, my just stating the basic economic facts, would look like boundless enthusiasm to you.

[Brian Allen]

<< But they are being joined by some on the far right as well, such as Pat Buchanan ..... >>

Trade Luddite and tariff-tax [And price] pushing totalitarian socialist, Pat Buchanan, is about as far right as were some other totalitarian socialists by-any-other name, including Messrs Mussolini, Hitler, Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin and Mao Tze Tung.

[.cnI redruM]

MOS DEF. Every 5 or so years, the GOP has to exorcise someone to maintain it's soul. First David Duke, then PJB. Maybe this cycle's victim will be Pat 'I approve of CHarlie Taylor Robertson.

[Brian Allen]

Why Murder Inc?

Gotta death wish?

[.cnI redruM]

why ask why?

[Brian Allen]

<< Every 5 or so years, the GOP has to exorcise someone to maintain it's soul. First David Duke, then PJB. >>

RINO KKKer-DemocRAT, Mr Duke was never a Republican in spirit nor in fact. He's an old-fashioned Dixiecrat.

And PJB's KKKling Tong-sized ego took him FROM the Republican Party.

The party, it is true, did not miss him when he left it -- but nor did it boot him.

[EdReform]

Bump

[riri]

ha! Truth id stranger than fiction. I went to a pottery place that sells Mexican pottery for yards over the weekend. I asked him which were the Guadalajara pots that I had seen advertised. He pointed them out and then said but really the best pots we have are over there. They look just like the Mexican pots but we bring them in from Viet Nam.

[null and void]

You know the corporation that is the #1 retailer in the world, where people snap up cheap priced goods.

If their goods were pieces of crap, do you think that they would still be the #1 retailer?

Since I've been unemployed, if anything breaks, I buy the cheapest possible substitute. Then I hope it lasts long enough so that I have a job when it breaks in it's turn.

Or I just do without.

I hope you never have to go through a rough patch in your happy little life. But if you ever do, please try to learn something fom the experience...

[Dane]

I hope you never have to go through a rough patch in your happy little life. But if you ever do, please try to learn something fom the experience..

I have, that is why I drive an old car, go to discount stores for clothes, clip coupons for food, buy in bulk when certain items are on sale, and pay off the credit cards every month, and try to save as much as I can.

And still I think that America is the best country on Earth. Do some good budgeting and look for bargains and you can live well.

[GraniteStateConservative]

Henry Clay: "If the governing consideration were cheapness, if national independence were to weigh nothing; if honor nothing; why not subsidize foreign powers to defend us; why not hire Swiss or Hessian armies to protect us? Why not get our arms of all kinds, as we do, in part, the blankets and clothing of our soldiers, from abroad?"

Henry Clay: "Poverty befalls any nation that neglects and abandons the care of its own industry, leaving it exposed to the action of foreign powers--there is a remedy and that consists in --adopting a Genuine American System accomplished by the establishment of a tariff--with the view of promoting American industry--the cause is the cause of the country, and it must and it will prevail."

Daniel Webster: "Protection...of our own labor against the cheaper, ill-paid, half-fed, and pauper labor of Europe, is, in my opinion, a duty which the country owes to its own citizens."

[.cnI redruM]

Actually, they let PJB know about the time they were gearing up to support CLinton's position on NAFTA, he was not going to receive any support from them if he ran for the nomination in '96. They didn't kick him out perse, they just refused to serve him a cold one in a rather emphatic manner.

[Conservativegreatgrandma]

And just what would a liberal do to prevent it?

[null and void]

And still I think that America is the best country on Earth.

Amen! I'd rather be poor here than rich anywhere else!