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Kerry raps Pope: Senator fuming over gay marriage order
Boston Herald
| Saturday, August 2, 2003
| By David R. Guarino
Posted on 08/02/2003 5:01:12 AM PDT by ninonitti
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
If any one group of people should be familiar with the nuances of political hypocrisy it is the Papacy.
To: ninonitti
I find this all very ironic. Anyone remember when JFK was running for President that the big worry was him being under the direction of the Vatican?
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posted on
08/02/2003 6:33:59 AM PDT
by
xp38
To: ninonitti
Note that this account comes from the Boston Herald. The Boston Globe (owned by the New York Times) will paint Kerry as a hero fighting against the evil, homophobic, anti-man-boy-love, spoil-sport Pope.
To: xm177e2
The pretend Catholics will just have to make a decision soon. The voting on the judges is a test of the faith. Many are failing miserably. The men marrying men issue will further test them. They are not upset about votes or rights of men to marry men. They are angry that they are being tested in a very public way on their faith. Lukewarm and pretend Catholics have been outed. Kennedy's, Leahy ,
Pelosi,Daschle, Kerry and others will either walk away from the church or affirm their faith. It is very easy to carry a label of Catholic, Jew or whatever but it is much harder to live it. I believe you will see many angry politicians on both sides of the aisle.
To: apackof2
Actually we agree . . .Absolutely!
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posted on
08/02/2003 6:42:54 AM PDT
by
DaBroasta
(They're not anti-war, they're just pi$$ed cause they cheated and Gore still lost)
To: Sacajaweau
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech or of the press; or the right of the people to peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances". The system of the anti-liberty "liberals" is to inflate the "Establishment" clause to such an extent as to, for political purposes, essentially moot the "Free Exercise" clause. The First Amendment is highly controversial; it couldn't be ratified today, sad to say.
"make no law respecting an Establishment" is far weaker than, "shall not establish." And mention of "Congress" explicitly excludes the state governments and therefore is weaker than a blanket prohibition. Likewise the "liberal" holds the "freedom of speech, and of the press" to mean not that you and I can talk, and can listen to whom we please. Rather, the liberal wants that clause to mean "the right to be bombarded with liberal propaganda;" conservatives need not apply for a job with public-relations influence.
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posted on
08/02/2003 6:46:32 AM PDT
by
conservatism_IS_compassion
(The everyday blessings of God are great--they just don't make "good copy.")
To: dedicated
"...why didn't he tell the Pope to mind his own business when the Pope was making all those anti-war comments obviously aimed at the U.S." That was my first question, too.
Here's my second question: ~~Why haven't I heard Kerry express this same "moral outrage" about religious leaders voicing support FOR gay marriage? Don't they, too, cross his cherished "line between church and state"?
What an unmitigated hypocrite this John F. Kerry is!
To: Malesherbes
The Boston Globe (owned by the New York Times) will paint Kerry as a hero fighting against the evil, homophobic, anti-man-boy-love, spoil-sport Pope. Exactement mon ami!!!
Globe headline today: "Panel Backs Gay Bishop" page one above the fold talking about the Episcopal conference out in Minneapolis......and more than a little misleading to boot when you read the piece.
(I think I'm going to start calling these Globe stories Poof Pieces from now on)
To: Van Jenerette
Excellent post!
As a Catholic I find it amazing when I hear these incredulous remarks by John Kerry.
It truly shows just how far the Democratic Party has strayed since the 1960's.
Kerry should have more respect for his religion, but I guess that doesn't matter to him anymore.
What an absolute creep he is.
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posted on
08/02/2003 7:03:40 AM PDT
by
Northern Yankee
(Freedom.... needs a soldier !)
To: OpusatFR
You are absolutely right. Legally recognized gay-unions differ from marriage in name only. If you grant the legal rights, benefits, responsibilities, obligations, status, etc of marriage onto same-sex unions then you have gay marriage, you're just not using the word marriage. That's why Vermont already has gay marriage. That's why politicians who claim to oppose gay marriage, but support recognizing whatever euphemism is used (civil union, domestic partnership) are phony. Part of me thought the radical gay/left lobby would be happy with this deception, but I should have known better. They are past the point of tolerance and even acceptance. Now they demand the celebration of their lifestyle. Thats why they insist on having the word 'marriage', because it has symbolic value and as such its a way to loudly announce that they are going to shove their unnatural lifestyle down the throats of every person in the country.
It is the institution of marriage that must be protected. It is the concept, the social construct of marriage that must be preserved.
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posted on
08/02/2003 7:04:24 AM PDT
by
Aetius
To: ninonitti
Kerry must figure that more gays than Catholics vote...then there are those gay catholics who don't have a voice in the Church...wow what a conundrum he is faced with. Too bad he is incapable of figuring out (because he's a liberal) there is a reason for the definition of "minority."
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posted on
08/02/2003 7:10:10 AM PDT
by
ExSoldier
(M1911A1: The ORIGINAL "Point and Click" interface!)
To: ExSoldier
Kerry must figure that more gays than Catholics vote..John Kerry knows very well that Catholics vote-and he knows who they vote for.
Why do you think he is a United States Senator?
To: Jim Noble
Great, great commentary! I'm still cleaning up my keyboard after snorting my coffee.
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posted on
08/02/2003 7:20:51 AM PDT
by
geedee
(Part of the secret of a success in life is to eat what you like and let the food fight it out inside)
To: Northern Yankee
It's sad to see a politician treat religion as a cloak that can be worn or thrown off. His choice of a talking point to politicize on is apalling but then again I guess he had to give in to his liberal side...can't let Dean have all the marbles. I find it so hard to believe these nine are the REAL Dem wannabe's. I wonder if they are only the Bashing Crew sent out to see what damage can be done before Gore/Clinton announce their true intentions. Also its funny how long Hillary takes to jump on a Dem "talking point", is she as much of a poll-watcher as her infamous husband?
Lately Dems parade out lamenting(lying) that there has been no proof that Iraq posed an imminent threat. Bush never said they were imminent, he warned we mustn't wait till the threat is imminent. The following is quoted from GWB State of the Union :"Some have said we must not act until the threat is imminent. Since when have terrorists and tyrants announced their intentions, politely putting us on notice before they strike? If this threat is permitted to fully and suddenly emerge, all actions, all words, and all recriminations would come too late. Trusting in the sanity and restraint of Saddam Hussein is not a strategy, and it is not an option." SOTU quoted to dispute Demo mantra that the president claimed Iraq's danger was imminent. They lie and mislead everytime they utter this.
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posted on
08/02/2003 7:22:35 AM PDT
by
Tarl
To: Tarl; kstewskis
These guys continue to shoot themselves in the foot.
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posted on
08/02/2003 7:28:42 AM PDT
by
Northern Yankee
(Freedom.... needs a soldier !)
To: ninonitti
``He should not be appointed to the court, and many of us who are Catholic voted against him without regard to Catholicism.''
Does Kerry know what the Roman church is?
``It seems like a very odd political strategy to attack the Catholic Church but Howard Dean is forcing Sen. Kerry to take a number of odd positions on a number of odd issues,'' said RNC spokeswoman Christine Iverson.
This is weirder yet. Howard Dean is making Kerry defy the church of Rome? I see her point but it's still strange.
To: Amelia
"If one has religious convictions, those convictions ought to guide one's actions, including voting on morally charged issues such as the definition of marriage or abortion."
Exactly!
To: Northern Yankee
``Our founding fathers separated church and state in America. It is an important separation,'' Our founding fathers had no intention of seperating morals and decency from church and state either.
Keep it coming, Kerry. You're a bigger idiot than I originally gave you credit for.
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posted on
08/02/2003 7:44:05 AM PDT
by
kstewskis
(...Lurch is loose again.)
To: Northern Yankee
Rick Santorum said it best yesterday, ( paraphrasing here).."The Dems object to judicial candidates with deeply held beliefs...what do they want, judges with wishy-washy beliefs.."
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posted on
08/02/2003 8:03:13 AM PDT
by
ken5050
To: narses; ultima ratio
He's a member of anti-Catholic secret societies. He's a member of a grotesquely anti-Catholic party. He supports the slaughter of the unborn and the sale of their body parts. Sum total: He ain't a Catholic. He's not even close. He's a creep. He should be banned from Holy Communion. His bishop should admonish him publicly NOW.
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