Posted on 08/01/2003 2:02:20 PM PDT by longjack
Friday, August 1st, 2003, 18:39
Charles Lindbergh Led Double Life With Munich Woman
Munich (dpa) - Charles Lindbergh, who became a hero after his non-stop flight from New York to Paris in 1927, led a double life according to a report in the "Süddeutsche Zeitung". The paper wrote in its Saturday edition that in 1957 the American Lindbergh learned to know and to love the 24 year younger hat maker, Brigitte Hesshaimer, in Munich . It was a close relationship which lasted until Lindbergh's death in 1974.
Lindbergh's wife seems to have known nothing about the second family in Munich, says the "SZ". After the death of their mother two years ago, Lindbergh's German children have now decided to talk about it for the first time. Dyrk, Astrid and David shall have known their father for a long time only under the pseudonym Careu Kent. They were born between 1958 and 1967, on their birth certificates stand "Father unknown".
The children suspected, according to the "SZ", that "Careu" had to have another name and that possibly he was famous. Lindbergh's daughter, Astrid Bouteuil, nee Hesshaimer, told the newspaper how she first learned the identity of her father by accident as an adult.
In the attic of her mother's house in Ammersee, Upper Bavaria, she discovered more than 100 letters by her father, mostly hand written, signed with C., like Careu or Charles. He wrote in one of these letters about "our children". A document analysis contracted by The "SZ" proves that the letters came from Lindbergh. (The report was available to the dpa in editorial form)
"Yahoo Deutschland"....Charles Lindbergh führte Doppelleben mit Münchnerin
Translated by longjack
It was. Read your history.
And evidently a bigamist of sorts too. Big surprise.
I have read a good biography of Lindberg but I confess it was some years ago but I do not recall the author demonstrating that his subject "admired Hitler." As a spy, Lindberg was correctly impressed with german war making potential, especially in the air, and so reported thus rendering yet another service to his country.
Do you have some support for your assertion that he admired Hitler or, even, as Cachelot asserts, he was a "Hitler - worshiper?" I am willing to be educated but in the meantime we ought to put these calumnies on hold pending proof.
I got to read that! Thanks. What a life the two had.
Wonder exactly what bio you read :). The claim that Lindbergh was a spy for the US seems to be pretty unsubstantiated. In fact, I can find only one original source for it - the Lindbergh family, from where it has been mentioned by his wife. Apart from that, it seems to mainly surface completely unsourced and from parties I wouldn't trust all that much. Not that I would trust the Lindbergh family sources too much either: these were people who were unaware that dad had a another family going elsewhere.
So what do we have? We have a person who was, from all the evidence, quite taken with Hitler's Germany - so much so that he at one time considered moving there (up until war broke out, actually), and accepted a decoration from Herman Göring. Who fought tooth and nail, to keep America from fighting the Nazi regime. Who capitalized on his fame to help his fellow travellers with the Nazi sympaties in the "America First" movement, of which he was a founding member. Who was declared a Nazi by FDR, and squeezed out of the armed forces (doesn't sound much like someone the air force would trust to spy on its behalf, does it?).
Anyway, documentation is pretty abundant. Just a couple:
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v24/n07/john01_.html
R.W.Johnson:
The man who, above all others, had earned the admiration of the Anglo-American upper classes was the great Lone Eagle, Charles Lindbergh. Most US politicians were eager to be associated with him and flocked to his side, but FDR couldn't forgive the fact that Lindbergh was so seemingly unbothered by Germany's occupation of Czechoslovakia and its treatment of the Jews that he accepted a decoration from Goering. FDR's class didn't have much to do with Jews, but he strongly disliked anti-semitism. Worried by his own ill-health and the weaker instincts of his Cabinet, he hastened to tell them: 'If I should die tomorrow, I want you to know this. I am absolutely convinced that Lindbergh is a Nazi.' When Lindbergh - a colonel in the Army Air Corps - became the hero of the America First movement, FDR made it publicly known that he regarded him as a traitor and would never call him to active duty. Lindbergh melodramatically resigned his commission - which FDR was happy to accept.
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2.4 (October 2002): 373-377
Hollywood’s Early Cinematic Responses to NazismRoy Schwartzman
Michael E. Birdwell. Celluloid Soldiers: Warner Bros.’s Campaign against Nazism. New York: New York University Press, 1999. xxi + 266 pages. Notes, bibliography, and index. $40.00 (cloth); $19.50 (paper). Despite the widespread presence and significant influence of Jews in the American film industry during the 1930s, Hollywood mounted virtually no active opposition to Nazism before World War II. In fact, the overall record of the studios matches the ostrich-like behavior of most of the world as Germany intensified its attacks on Jews. Much like IBM, whose conduct has been documented in Edwin Black’s controversial IBM and the Holocaust, Hollywood remained reluctant to criticize the Nazi regime or defend the rights of German Jews. The cynical attitude of business as usual reigned. Morality took a back seat to the profits that could be gained from Germany. Amid this lamentable apathy to the plight of German Jews, at least one courageous figure took a stand. Harry Warner, the quiet, devoutly religious brother of flamboyant Jack, led Warner Brothers studio to risk censure, profits, and public condemnation for the sake of revealing the threat of National Socialism. Harry’s efforts culminated in the 1942 general release of Sergeant York, with Gary Cooper playing the title role. Michael Birdwell, a cultural historian at Tennessee Tech and curator of the Alvin C. York papers, tells the story of Harry Warner’s cinematic efforts to oppose Nazism and the gradual enlistment of Sergeant Alvin York, America’s greatest war hero at the time, to support military intervention against Germany. Enriched with archival material from Warner Brothers and the York papers, Celluloid Soldiers traces how momentum gradually shifted from isolation to intervention. Hollywood’s film activity during and immediately after the Depression consisted primarily of escapism from economic hardship. Warner Brothers, however, tended to make films with more of a social conscience. Darryl Zanuck had established a Warner Brothers trend of making films that sided with the underdog. Among the major studios, only Warner Brothers focused on ordinary, working-class people and on taboo topics such as American hate groups. These preferences brought the studio on a collision course with the Production Code Administration (PCA), the industry’s own content controller. As early as 1932, Harry Warner sensed the dangers that Nazism posed. He decided not to acquire Germany’s Universum Film studio, and had Jack Warner terminate all business with Germany after July 1934. Warner Brothers quickly began its cinematic attacks on Nazism. In 1933, Bosko’s Picture Show, a Looney Tunes cartoon, lampooned Hitler as an incompetent fool. Unfortunately, PCA director Joseph Breen, supported by the State Department, took a dim view of films that might offend Germany. Warner earned the rancor of the PCA with two important anti-Nazi films that preceded the famous Sergeant York. Black Legion (1937) documented the criminal activities of the domestic fascist group The Black Legion. Members of this Midwestern terrorist organization preached nativism and practiced violence against perceived threats to “true” Americans. From 1931 to 1937, the group assassinated important labor organizers, bombed buildings, and participated in fifty-seven murders or attempted murders. The resultant film, although fictional, had the tone of a documentary. It portrayed the inevitable course of ruin that anyone would follow who succumbed to hate groups. Although the Black Legion conspirators are brought to justice in the film, it avoids a sugar-coated finale. Brutality and intolerance flourished within America, and Warner Brothers had revealed it. Probably the most direct indictment of Nazism came from Confessions of a Nazi Spy (1939). This film established the template for cinematic portrayals of Nazis as cold, ruthlessly efficient sadists (76). Confessions of a Nazi Spy fanned fears that Nazis had infiltrated America and were undermining democracy. The film was promptly banned in several countries that wanted to maintain cordial relations with Nazi Germany. Nazi propaganda retaliated by accusing Americans of hypocrisy in light of their segregationist practices. A victim of mixed reviews and a public craving for escape from tensions of the day, the film did not draw large audiences. Warner Brothers, however, kept trying to raise consciousness about the perils of Nazism. After war was declared in Europe, they began courting Alvin York, the greatest American hero of the First World War. York’s actual life provided a ready-made script for the myth of the humble hero. Raised in backwoods Tennessee, York was a minimally educated, down-to-earth homebody who preferred game hunting to public speaking. Warner Brothers correctly identified York as the larger-than-life mythic hero who could spur America to action against Nazi Germany. The task was not easy. York, suspicious of Hollywood glitter and too familiar with the horrors of war, was no interventionist. His slow conversion paralleled America’s gradual emergence from isolationism. The invasion of Poland spurred York to act. Rhetorical critics will find most interesting the interplay between York and Charles Lindbergh that chapter 5 details. Lindbergh, an American hero from his transatlantic flight, used his stature to promote his political stance. He traveled across the country promoting American isolationism. Lindbergh even accepted Hitler’s invitation to visit Nazi Germany in 1937 and 1938, receiving a medal from Göring during the final trip. When war broke out in Europe on 1 September 1939, York became convinced that America needed to act. York quickly saw Hitler as a dangerous evil, eventually referring to him publicly as “the Anti-Christ of prophecy” (147). Lindbergh remained enthralled by National Socialism and admired the powerful Luftwaffe. The stage was set for a classic confrontation between two genuine American heroes. York lobbied for greater American aid to Britain, and the fall of France convinced him that it was time for Americans to realize that war might be the only way to assure freedom (136). Lindbergh’s isolationist allies formed America First, which opposed American involvement in the war. York, speaking in favor of intervention, increasingly took aim specifically at Lindbergh and America First. The increasing intensity of his pleas for intervention would make excellent material for a detailed rhetorical analysis. As events worsened for the allies in Europe, York’s verbal rapier became sharper. Referring to Lindbergh’s voluntary resignation of his Army Air Corps Reserve commission effective 28 April 1941, York attacked “such isolationists and appeasers as Senator Wheeler and ex-Colonel Lindbergh, and ex-President Hoover” (139). By September 1941, Lindbergh was railing against influential and wealthy “Jewish groups,” especially media moguls, who were “agitating for war” (143). It is sometimes difficult to find reliable archival material that documents the oratory of two popular heroes on opposite sides of the same issue. An ongoing debate such as that conducted by York and Lindbergh offers an excellent opportunity to analyze a dynamic controversy. Birdwell narrates the verbal jousting, but because he does not employ an analytical framework, it is difficult to assess the relative merits of the speeches. As a homespun, plainspoken man with a third-grade education, York enacted a style and demeanor that contrasted sharply with the dashing figure of Lindbergh. The final uphill battle for Warner Brothers as well as for the film industry in general occurred on 1 August 1941. On that date Senate Resolution 152 launched an investigation of the film industry. Hard-line Senate isolationists who engineered the investigation alleged that Hollywood was “dedicated to warmongering, that it constituted a Jewish-controlled monopoly, and that it was engaged in covert dealings with the Roosevelt administration” (154). Thus one function of the hearings was to give public legitimacy to anti-Semitism. Senators Gerald P. Nye (Montana) and Bennett Champ Clark (Missouri) co-sponsored S.R. 152. The actual hearings proved to be a dress rehearsal for the McCarthy hearings a decade later. The Hollywood studios procured former Republican Presidential candidate Wendell Willkie to defend them. The committee refused to allow Willkie to cross-examine or call witnesses, and Warner Brothers was fingered as the ringleader of Jewish warmongering propaganda. The hearings continued until 26 September, never reconvening after the American declaration of war. Harry Warner thoroughly undermined the credibility of Senator Nye by reading a telegram Nye sent praising Confessions of a Nazi Spy, one of the films in question. The conduct of the investigation was incompetent and embarrassing to the non-interventionists. Ironically, the same Senate that was hounding the film industry quickly enlisted their aid to develop films educating the public about Nazism after America joined the war. The Nye-Clark hearings present fertile ground for communication scholars. The selections Birdwell includes preview rhetorical tactics that would come into play during the McCarthy era: conspiracy theories, shifting the burden of proof, and large doses of what Richard Hofstadter aptly termed “the paranoid style.” The Nye-Clark hearings have additional historical significance: they played perfectly into the arguments Nazi Germany was using to justify the repression of Jews throughout Europe. If Jews fomented war, then their oppression seemed a logical defensive measure. This book contains several useful resources and research avenues. A ten-page timeline traces the course of events for Nazi Germany, Warner studios, and Alvin York from Hitler’s becoming Chancellor (30 January 1933) to the commercial release of Sergeant York (4 July 1942). In his postscript, Birdwell calls for more cinematic documentation of American fascist sympathizers prior to World War II. Hollywood has contributed to the misconception that all Americans united against Hitler, with Hollywood graciously doing its part. The difficult path from isolationism to involuntary participation in World War II has received almost no attention. A similar lack of coverage holds in the field of communication studies. Virtually no research has examined domestic fascism in America, and the bitter debates regarding America’s proper role in the war from 1939 to 1941 have escaped sustained attention. These areas, as Birdwell observes, offer excellent prospects for further research. In the wake of the September 11th terrorist attacks, the discourse surrounding American military action acquires greater urgency. Perhaps contemporary discussions regarding armed retaliation, invasion, and covert action would become more nuanced and enlightened with some attention to rhetorical history. If nothing else, such a retrospective could generate some wisdom about when and why to resurrect war heroes, military experts, and maybe the ghost of Franklin Roosevelt. Roy Schwartzman is Associate Professor of Communication in the Department of Communication, Theatre, and Languages at Northwest Missouri State University. |
I also recommend books written by their daughter, Reeve Lindbergh, Under His Wings about her father and No More Words about her mother. Anne suffered with Alzheimer's for many years. Her daughter writes a very touching book about mother's mental decline and the years of caring for her. Anne died in her 90's.
As I said I am going by memory now many years later but I seem to remember reading that he rendered written reports on the state of the LUFTWAFFE. Did he not befriend Ernst Udet, famed ace of the First War and report on his conversations? I think Udet was, before his suicide, a player in the reorganization of the air arm after the war. Wasn't he also featured in THE LATE WALDO PEPPER? I understand that these reports were quite insightful and it was this intelligence which led him to believe the Europeans could not defeat the Nazis. But, as I said, I am willing to be educated to the contrary.
So what do we have? We have a person who was, from all the evidence, quite taken with Hitler's Germany - so much so that he at one time considered moving
But he did not move there. He moved many places in exile after his son was murdered as long as it was away from the American press. Who can blame him? He lived for a time in England and, I think, France but he chose not to live in Hitler's Germany. Nor did he live in post war Germany to be near his mistress.
and accepted a decoration from Herman Göring.
I have more than once posted that historical characters should be judged on what they knew or reasonably should have known. To judge them in hindsight is simply not fair. This is the position Churchill took and he of all men ought to have been able to take the contrary position. Göring was an authentic hero of the Luftwaffe in the First War. Lindberg was an authentic hero. It was natural that he would be honored in turn by Germany after virtually every other country on earth had honored him. Was he accepting the medal from Göring, the Nazi party, or the German nation? When your man FDR feted, toasted, flattered, smoozed and untimately bent over for Stalin was he pandering to a bank robber, a mass murderer, a chief of state, an ally or the representative of the Soviet Union? At the time FDR was fawning over one of one of the most virulent mass murderers in human history, did he know that Stalin had exterminated up to twenty million Kulaks? Of course he did. He had access to intelligence data available to the President of the United States, data to which Lindberg never had access to regarding Hitler, much less Göring. You expect Lindberg to be clairvoyant and anticipate a halocaust which lay in the future while you apparently excuse FDR's blindness to past and present butchery. Ah, but you no doubt will say that the Nazis were anti-semitic and that is a special kind of evil from which honorable men should recoil. And so they should. But the the Kulaks are just as dead even though they were murdered not for their race or religion but for their independence. They recently built a monument to FDR. But judging these two men according to the knowledge which can fairly be imputed to them at the time, they ought to melt it down and use the material for a monument to Lindberg.
Who fought tooth and nail, to keep America from fighting the Nazi regime
Again men must be judged on facts of the time. Lindberg openly stated his opposition to being sucked into a European war at great cost and to no end. FDR pretended to the electorate that he opposed being sucked into a European war a great cost. He was lying. Lindberg was not. When Pearl Harbor, or rather Hitler's declaration of war against America, made clear that America, like it or not, was in a European war, Lindberg moved heaven and earth to serve his country. FDR vindictively attempted to frustrate him, but, in the end, Lindberg, flying as a civilian, heroically served his country. He fought zeros and I belive has some kills to his credit. He acted as test pilot. He pioneered the concept of disposable fuel tanks thus extending the range of our fighters and helped win the war in the Pacific. Whatever cloud hangs over Lindberg before the war was utterly dispelled by his service in the war.
Finally, I still see no evidence in your materials to support your assertion that Lindberg was a "Hitler - worshiper."
Thank you and I didn't choose it lightly, as I am sure you didn't. Can you imagine turning LtGen Forrest loose in Iraq with 20 or so M1A1's, 50 Bradleys, a few squadrons of Harriers and Apache gunships, and 30 days of rations, ordnance and kerosene? The kill ratio would go to 50 to 1 and stay there for the duration of the pacification process, which would not exceed 20 days. At the end of the 20 days the three baathists still above ground would be running a shoeshine parlor at Baghdad International Airport, and glad of it.
So he did. But not as a spy. His first visits to Germany was as an official observer for the us armed forces. And he crafted his reports in a way calculated to put America off any notion of going to war with Germany.
The "spy" legend seems to be strictly that: a legend designed to give him stature (an effort that seems to have been at the center of his life during the thirties, and which was unremittingly plowed back into propaganda work for the "America First" party).
He lived for a time in England and, I think, France but he chose not to live in Hitler's Germany
Only because of the war. Awfully inconvenient to live where American bombs would be falling, you know ;).
It was natural that he would be honored in turn by Germany after virtually every other country on earth had honored him.
Yeah, sure. The personal friend of Joseph Gõbbels, who got this mention in Göbbels's diary:
"Lindbergh has written a really spirited letter to Roosevelt. He is the president's toughest opponent. He asked us not to give him too much prominence, since this could harm him. We have proceeded accordingly."
When your man FDR feted
Ah. Now we're getting somewhere ;). You're not exactly too kindly disposed towards Roosevelt, are you? You wouldn't be one of those who like to call him Rosenfeld, by any chance?
Lindberg moved heaven and earth to serve his country.
Such a long and spirited rant in defense of this "hero". Lindbergh served as a civilian test pilot, and never lifted arms against Germans. He saw combat against Japanese aircraft, which was, strictly speaking, not something he was supposed to see. Still, it probably didn't do any harm because even if "flying freelance" he wouldn't have had access to any sensitive data (which he might well have had if he'd been let back into the armed forces).
Finally, I still see no evidence in your materials to support your assertion that Lindberg was a "Hitler - worshiper."
All I can say to that is "nuts". And offer up the real Lindbergh:
From an article for "Reader's Digest:
"Aviation is a tool especially shaped for Western hands, a scientific art which others only copy in a mediocre fashion; another barrier between the teeming millions of Asia and the Grecian inheritance of Europe -- one of the priceless possessions which permit the White race to live at all in a sea of Yellow, Black and Brown...
We can have peace and security only as long as we band together to preserve that most priceless possession, our inheritance of European blood, only so long as we guard ourselves against attack by foreign armies and dilution by foreign races."
From a speech in Des Moines, Iowa (where the public seems to have run him off):
"The three most important groups who have been pressing this country toward war are the British, the Jewish, and the Roosevelt Administration.Instead of agitating for war, Jews in this country should be opposing it in every way, for they will be the first to feel its consequences. Their greatest danger to this country lies in their large ownership and influence in our motion pictures, our press, our radio and our government."
There is much more.
Now we have seen Lindbergh as adulterer, if not bigamist. Look for research on the Lindbergh kidnapping case to hit mainstream news in the near future. You have a surprise or two coming your way.
It is evident that the despicable insinuations have started:
When your man FDR feted
Ah. Now we're getting somewhere ;). You're not exactly too kindly disposed towards Roosevelt, are you? You wouldn't be one of those who like to call him Rosenfeld, by any chance?
I will say this one time only for the record, despite your insinuations, I am not anti-semitic. But I am getting damn sick and tired of dealing with such insinuations whenever an argument departs from someone's liking such as yourself. Roosevelt was called "your man" because you cited him and his opinion that Lindberg was a Nazi. You brought his bona fides into play, not I. He is your source, your expert, "your man."
I will not insinuate, I will frankly state that your outrage at Lindberg is selective. Compare these written remarks of Harry Truman to those of Lindberg and tell me about how you leaped into cyberspace in righteous indignation to condemn him:
"The Jews I find are very, very selfish," Truman wrote on July 21. "They care not how many Estonians, Latvians, Finns, Poles, Yugoslavs or Greeks get murdered or mistreated as D[isplaced] P[ersons] as long as the Jews get special treatment. Yet when they have power, physical, financial or political neither Hitler nor Stalin has anything on them for cruelty or mistreatment to the underdog. Put an underdog on top and it makes no difference whether his name is Russian, Jewish, Negro, Management, Labor, Mormon, Baptist he goes haywire."
Please spare me any more insinuations about my motives. Until you can show me that Lindberg was egregious or unique or even as bad as Truman, you have not made a convincing case that he was a "Hitler -worshipper." Lindberg's problem apparently was not his anti-semitism but his politics. Trumans's anti-semitism has been condoned because of his politics.
Shame on you for making these insinuations.
We were not discussing Harry Truman, or even Roosevelt - except for the fact that he was Lindbergh's commander in chief and didn't trust him as far as he could throw him. Frankly, in your frantic casting about for all kinds of navel-lint which has nothing to do with the issue, you come off as a loon.
Until you can show me that Lindberg was egregious or unique or even as bad as Truman
Well, kook - Truman wasn't a personal friend of Göbbels, nor was he a founding father of an American Nazi organization. Nor did he pen passages such as this (and I must confess I enjoy rubbing your muzzle in it):
"Aviation is a tool especially shaped for Western hands, a scientific art which others only copy in a mediocre fashion; another barrier between the teeming millions of Asia and the Grecian inheritance of Europe -- one of the priceless possessions which permit the White race to live at all in a sea of Yellow, Black and Brown...
We can have peace and security only as long as we band together to preserve that most priceless possession, our inheritance of European blood, only so long as we guard ourselves against attack by foreign armies and dilution by foreign races."
I'm not sure it is possible to wipe out Islam, and that's the problem
It is possible, it is simple, and it doesn't even have to be done by genocide or massacres. It just takes a modicum of spine and some legal changes, which may be in short supply.
Let's rub you muzzle in some more of your own words:
Second, all mosques and signs of Islam must be removed. Not only are they hubs of criminal activity and safe-houses for storage of weapons, explosives and no doubt when they get around to it, wmd's, but they also form the base that Islam is resting on. To explain: Islam is a very brittle belief. It must overtower all other beliefs, and it must do that physically, by shrines and houses of worship outshining them. Hence the insane obsession with building mosques on sites taken from others, and with mosques being taller than the neighbouring churches. The removal of their physical edifices will act to shatter their illusion that "Allah", "Mohammed", or other supernatural entities are able to help them in any way whatsoever and will drive great numbers (if not most) of these yahoos away from that particular superstition. Third, and that is in the same vein as #2: their central holy places must be destroyed. This is not to say that they have to be nuked, but their central "islamic" points must be reduced to dust. That is particularly important when it comes to that stone they worship like it was some demon fallen from space, the kaabaa. Implement this, and Islam will be gone like a bad dream or a skunkfart in a fresh breeze. There may be a few stragglers. Just shoot them.
Just shoot them?
I invite any reader of this thread to read your vile comments under your nom de plume and determine for himself who "rants" and who it is that "comes off as a loon." Anyone who looks at your posts will immediately see that you are consumed. May God help you.
Geez, NB, you shouldn't try typing and hissing at the same time :)). So, do you have anything more rational to say about your little nazi hero?
Or are you off to get your meds?
True, he was. You're showing signs of improvement. Do you have any more opinions regarding Lindbergh, or are you still reduced to drooling?
Meanwhile, here's a few more gems from Göbbels's diary. Seems he was fairly extatic over his friend and ally Lindbergh:
April 19, 1941: "Public opinion in the USA is beginning to waver. The Isolationists are very active. Colonel Lindbergh is sticking stubbornly and with great courage to his old opinions. A man of honor!"April 30, 1941: "Lindbergh has written a really spirited letter to Roosevelt. He is the president's toughest opponent. He asked us not to give him too much prominence, since this could harm him. We have proceeded accordingly."
June 8, 1941: "These American Jews want war. And when the time comes they will choke on it. Read a brilliant letter from Lindbergh to all Americans. It really tells the Interventionists where to get off. Stylistically magnificent. The man has something."
"The man has something", indeed. The next instalment of scandal may even tell us what he had ;).
Funny how you folks try to erase the sh*t from Lindbergh's record by citing others who were, supposedly, worse or as bad. See, it deosn't work. Ol' NB there tried to drag in Truman, you're trying to drag in Churchill. None of them actually tried to build a nazi organization in America. None of them worked actively on Hitler's behalf either, but Lindbergh most certainly did.
Lindbergh actively supported the war effort by flying more than 60 combat missions in the Pacific
After he was excluded from the air force he flew civilian missions as test pilot, which sometimes landed him in combat. True. But note well his biographer's take on why he was willing to take arms against the Japanes:
What, one might have wondered at the time, would be the catalyst to spur the reluctant aviator into war? A hint, says Cole, may lie in his declaration that America's "bond with Europe is a bond of race and not of political ideology," and that "The average intellectual superiority of the white race...is countered by the sensate superiority of the black race." Thus, he added, if the white race were "ever seriously threatened, it may then be time for us to take our part in its protection, to fight side by side with the English, French and Germans, but not with one against the other for our mutual destruction."
he also tendered intelligence on the Luftwaffe to the US Army
But not as a spy. As an official observer sent to germany to inspect the Luftwaffe, all open and above board, with the Germans full cooperation. He even was given opportunity to fly most of their planes.
And the "intelligence" he tendered? It seems to have been strictly to the tune of "do not even think of tackling the Germans". If fact, he was a German "agent of influence", and it's perfectly obvious from Göbbels's diary that this was in collusion with the Germans.
So, Fonda and Brown. You seem to think that that these two critters are bad redeems the nazis. What brainrot.
Lindbergh was a founding member of the "America First" party. Wtf do you think it was, a coffee klatsch society?
Geez, even by going to the official Lindbergh memorial site you should know better.
Also, I see you made reference to some possible exoneration of the Hauptman creep in the baby's kidnapping; ain't gonna happen, he was guilty as sin
You are an idiot, obviously. It's a pretty much historically accepted fact that Hauptman was the wrong guy. Luckily, just now the police archives are being dredged through again, and guess what? They yield new material ;).
adulation, in Hollywood and the media for Joe Stalin, despite his deliberate campaign of starvation against 12 million Ukrainians and his murder of tens of millions of Russians.
And another Hitler-admiring freeper implodes. Stalin, Hollywood, pogroms. You left out the Jewish Bolsheviks, how Hitler ha dto react to the creeping danger of Jews planting communism, and how the mass graves in Europe was really filled with Germans. After the allies and the jews had tortured them, of course.
Go boil your head. Maybe it'll become useful for something.
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