[jagrmeister]

Pat's too dense to realize that the newspapers only run his editorials when they can be used to attack the Republican position or excuse Democrats. Oh, of course, it's not Grey Davis's fault...it's the federal government's fault. These liberal editorial boards laugh at Pat 90% of the time and ignore his columns; then drag him out whenever it's convenient. It's pathetic the way he lets himself get used.

[vp_cal]

>By the 1990s, an exodus of taxpayers had begun. Fed up >with being fleeced to subsidize illegal aliens, >Californians began leaving for Nevada, Idaho, Arizona ....

This guy needs to do his research. Alot of people
came to California in the 90's and most of them were legal-
white, asian, hispanic, black. I know because i was there;
they moved from other states because of the great new economy. So I really do not know what Pat is thinking.

Illegal immigration is a problem, but most of the welfare and entitlement benefits are utlized by citizens of this country. If the American citizens did not want these programs, they would be canceled regardless of what the illegal mexicans think.

[nathanbedford]

This dodges the question of whether Bucannan is right or wrong in his analysis.

Without commenting on his views on trade policy, I believe he is largely right about the baleful effects of unrestricted legal or illegal immigration.

I believe he is wrong or at least incomplete in this statement:

out of fear of being branded xenophobic and to curry favor with Big Business, which benefits from an endless supply of low-wage labor – did almost nothing to protect America.

It is not being labellled "xenophobic" which paralizes politicians but the terror of being labelled racist and losing the hispanic vote. The tyranny of reverse racism threatens our national integrity.

[Cacophonous]

He's syndicated. Means newspapers and other media outlets, contract through his syndicate, to run his columns. They can't read them first and then decide if they want to run them.

[Ohioan]

Pat's too dense to realize that the newspapers only run his editorials when they can be used to attack the Republican position or excuse Democrats. Oh, of course, it's not Grey Davis's fault...it's the federal government's fault. These liberal editorial boards laugh at Pat 90% of the time and ignore his columns; then drag him out whenever it's convenient. It's pathetic the way he lets himself get used.

You have not answered one thing Pat wrote. All you have done is attack his intelligence, because you do not like what you see as the political effect of what he wrote. If we Republicans take the position that we cannot frankly discuss certain subjects, because of political dangers, we are in the long run, dead in the water. America cannot afford parties that become wedded to the concepts of sacred cows or forbidden subjects, which effect the well being of our people.

I do not agree with Pat's position on trade policy--although he certainly makes points that need to be discussed; need to be faced by both parties. I do agree with his comments on immigration. The nature of a society is determined by the people who make up that society. It is not rational to believe that the society of ten million Mexicans in California, will be much different than ten million Mexicans in Mexico. To imagine otherwise, is to insult all of us, Anglo & Mexican alike; the old musical chair analogy, with the added insult that it does not matter who is in those chairs.

We need to be discussing Pat's issues. On some, I suspect that we will resolve the required approach to policy, somewhat differently than Pat suggests. On others, we may have to accept Pat's suggested approach, and sooner rather than later. But to slough his view off as an embarrassment to our political party, is to put party ahead of America, and that is simply not acceptable.

And Pat is hardly excusing the neo-Marxist Gray Davis in the essay!

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