[Hugin]

Please... it's a myth that illegals are crumbling our health care when it's really man Americans on welfare and also being fat and unhealthy that is straining our resources.

Nonsense. There are three million illegals in LA county. When they get sick they go to county hospital emergency rooms who are required to treat them. How to you think hospitals cover the cost of treating them? They have to raise the cost to the paying customers, or take it from tax dollars. If you don't think this is happening, you are just plain ignorant. You also seem to have difficulty with the concept of illegal vs. legal immigrants.

[cyborg]

I am not ignorant. I am looking at three million illegals versus many more millions of Americans. I know the business of illegal immigrants in emergency rooms are going on, but I think many more millions of Americans not paying their medical bills is more of a strain. Also, I have no difficulty differentiating between illegal and legal immigrants. It's Pat Buchanan that has that problem. Read the article again yourself and you will see that he lumps in both legal and illegal immigrants.

[vp_cal]

the problem is not with the illegal immigrants- the problem is with us. They do not hold a gun to our heads while we subsidize their free medical care. We do this of our own free will.

If you hand out cash at the mall and people take it, who is to blame for your lack of money- you or the taking your money?

We need to take responsibility for our own failed policies.