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To: CatoRenasci
I read The Dhimmi and several others of Bat Ye'or's works.

You are a scholar and a gentleman. Am reading her book now, published 1980 in France. Revised English edition 1985. She was so far ahead of her time. One chapter of her book is "Jihad and Dhimma: Modern Formulations". If you don't know that the war against Israel is a Jihad to make these Jews dhimmis once more (or kill them), then you know nothing

The record of Islam as rulers is abysmal, and most people don't have a clue. The myths of the tolerant Arab civilization are just that: myths.

The Muslims were parasitical. They taxed the Jews to death and made sure their existence was one of humiliation. There were some bright spots but this was Jewish life in the Muslim Arab world.

Islamics are very hung up on humiliation. Being dissed. They make very sure they humiliate those they get an opportunity to lord over. One way they get their rocks off.

17 posted on 07/25/2003 9:28:38 AM PDT by dennisw (G-d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: dennisw
Indeed, although I'd say the war against Israel is just opportunistic in the sense that it's right there in Islam's face, the real jihad is much broader against all non-Mohammedans, and especially against the whole Judeo-Christian West.

Interesting point you make about Islam's concern with being "dissed" (disrespected) -- a symptom of powerlessness, I think. Consider that those most concerned wtih not being "dissed" are the Ghetto blacks, the lumpenproletatriat underclass who have nothing but an exaggerated sense of self-importance. One thinks of the Arabs rather that way: they know no one would take Arabs or Islam seriously at all if it weren't for oil, and that even at best, only the ones who control the oil are at all regarded. They know they have no power, so they demand a respect they cannot earn.

21 posted on 07/25/2003 11:01:00 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
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