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Ugly? Leaders see the blight("Houston is ugly.")
The usual liars at the Houston Chronicle ^ | 7/20/03 | Bill Murphy

Posted on 07/20/2003 9:14:35 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat

Landscaping most freeways part of Super Bowl plan

It was just three words in a 2,500-word essay in The Economist magazine a couple of years ago, but to Charles McMahen they still sting:

"Houston is ugly."

Though the article about the city was largely positive, and the ugly reference was aimed broadly at Houston's sprawl, lack of zoning and other issues, McMahen cites the sentence when talking about an initiative to improve the city's gateways.

"Clearly, 59 North, the Hardy Toll Road and 45 North are really in need of some work," said McMahen, chairman of the Quality of Life Advisory Committee of the Greater Houston Partnership.

Which of the three is least attractive?

"It's sort of like asking, `Which one of your children is ugliest?' " McMahen says.

Houston is expecting company -- lots of company -- on Feb. 1 when the Super Bowl is played in Reliant Stadium. The partnership, the Super Bowl Host Committee and other groups want to fix up the town before then, and landscaping the major entryways is part of the push.

Some civic leaders consider the North Freeway, with its heavy traffic and long stretches of garish signs, strip malls, car lots, topless clubs and modeling studios, such an eyesore that limo drivers may be asked to bring VIPs in on the Hardy.

"Hardy is at least a little greener. I wouldn't characterize it as scenic," said Bob Eury, executive director of the Downtown Houston Management District and a member of Houston Super Bowl XXXVIII's Host Committee. "That would be a little bit of an overstatement. It looks better than 45, it absolutely does."

Tell that to Jim McIngvale, a Host Committee member who owns Gallery Furniture on the North Freeway.

"Why don't we just hire Steven Spielberg and have him build us a big set that disguises the area?" McIngvale said. "To me, it's kind of ludicrous. Why hide what we are?"

It's not merely an aesthetic issue. The Quality of Life Advisory Committee of the Greater Houston Partnership and the Quality of Life Coalition think it's about ... well, quality of life.

Three years ago, the coalition, composed of 70 businesses, political and environmental groups, began a push to landscape highways, reduce visual blight and develop new recreational amenities.

"We spend too much time on these freeways not to have them look better than they do today," said McMahen, chairman of both Quality of Life groups. "We hope to have plantings on every freeway in the city over the next few years."

The coalition is aiming high. It wants the Texas Department of Transportation and the county to landscape all highways inside the beltway in the next five years -- work the coalition estimates would cost $75 million.

"We don't have $75 million," said Ethan Beeson, a TxDOT landscape architect who has helped design highway plantings in the Houston region.

A state law requires half of 1 percent of state highway construction funding in counties not in compliance with EPA air quality standards to be spent on highway landscaping.

Harris County qualifies. The money provides a steady stream for highway landscaping, but will not approach $75 million in the next five years, Beeson said.

As a first step, the coalition has urged that highways serving as gateways to the city from Bush Intercontinental and Hobby airports be landscaped. TxDOT and the county have agreed to try to complete the work before Super Bowl week.

This fall, more than 20,000 trees will be planted along the gateways: 7,544 along the North Freeway from Interstate 10 to Rankin, 8,915 along the Eastex Freeway from I-10 to Will Clayton and 4,350 on the Gulf Freeway from the Southwest Freeway to Beltway 8. The Gulf project will include 1,115 palms.

Beeson said the trees -- 7 to 10 feet tall -- will be planted every 8 feet where possible and mostly between highways and frontage roads. "Obviously, they won't make as much impact this January as they will five Januarys from now," he said. "There's nothing we can do about that."

The Greater Houston Partnership and the coalition also have pressed for landscaping along the Hardy from the North Loop to Beltway 8, a stretch not in danger of being designated "scenic" by the American Automobile Association.

TxDOT has agreed to plant trees from the North Loop to Crosstimbers, and the coalition wants the Harris County Toll Road Authority to do the rest.

But there's little room along the toll road for landscaping. Union Pacific's railroad tracks run along the west side of the highway for a long stretch, then between the north- and southbound lanes. Lining the road are older small homes, light industry, a few bars and some convenience stores.

Trees can't be planted near the railroad tracks because the roots could ruin buried fiber optic cable and the branches could pose a danger to trains.

The coalition wants oleanders, which put down relatively shallow roots, planted near the tracks and possibly some other plants elsewhere, said Bill Coats, a Quality of Life Coalition member negotiating with Union Pacific.

"We'll get it done," Coats said. "It's just a question of whether we can get it done by the Super Bowl. We'd like to make it a nice gateway into the city."

A massive landscaping project along a 3 3/4-mile toll road linking the Hardy to JFK Boulevard, the entrance to Bush Intercontinental, won't be completed until August 2004, however.

The Host Committee is leaning toward having Super Bowl visitors shuttled in and out on the Hardy, but no final decision has been made, Eury said.

The disdain for I-45 north rankles "Mattress Mac" McIngvale.

"I don't see anything wrong with taking them down the North Freeway. It's very dynamic. It's an example of free enterprise and capitalism, which is what built this country," McIngvale said. "It pays me and the 400 people who work here. I don't bite the hand that feeds me."

McIngvale has been active in promoting sports events in Houston. Gallery Furniture set up a $7 million line of credit to bring the 2003 and 2004 Tennis Masters Cups to the city.

"I can promise you this, that all the dignitaries coming in for the Tennis Masters Cup will be taken right by my store," McIngvale said. Local sports honchos "may mind coming down the freeway. But they don't mind taking my money for sponsorships at Reliant Stadium."

The Host Committee will inform limousine, taxi and shuttle drivers of recommended highways and roads during a committee-sponsored training session in January. Drivers will be advised to take Memorial Drive between downtown and Uptown. Main, Fannin and San Jacinto, which will be gussied up by the Super Bowl, will be the recommended routes between downtown and Reliant Park, said Eury of the Host Committee.

Along these routes, rye grass, which turns a lush green during winter months, may be planted in vacant lots and bare areas, Eury said. Pansies and cyclamens, flowers that do well in winter, also will be on display.

"In the middle of January, we have a chance to have a green city, flowered city, a blooming city," Eury said. "And it's a chance to show visitors what a nice climate we have."

The highway beautification projects to be completed before the game aren't the area's first.

About 11 years ago, to prevent slope erosion, trees and other landscaping were planted along parts of I-10 between downtown and the West Loop.

Many of the beautification projects over the last five years have been the work of TxDOT's Green Ribbon Project. It was launched because Houston had an image of being a sprawling web of unattractive, concrete corridors -- an image that sometimes made it hard to recruit out-of-town business talent, said TxDOT spokesman Norm Wigington.

"When they were trying to sell Houston, they were hearing, `This is not as attractive as going into Atlanta or going into San Francisco,' " he said.

Over the past five years, TxDOT has planted 30,000 to 40,000 trees annually in the region.

Massive projects have included planting 10,300 trees, including 300 palms, on the Gulf Freeway at Beltway 8; 12,000 trees on the Eastex Freeway at the North Loop; and 12,000 trees on the Southwest Freeway at Beltway 8.

About 3,000 trees are being planted along the Southwest Freeway near the arch bridges.

"Is it going to make a difference? Obviously, yes," said Beeson, the TxDot landscape architect. "We're planting thousands and thousands of trees. We're trying to green the corridors and make it more aesthetically pleasing."


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Maybe they can paint the concrete freeway barriers cammo green. That'll fool 'em.

But I guess Houston gets credit for trying to beautify, such as with Buffalo Bayou downtown. Call me crazy, but I do have trouble seeing the bayou at the steps of the jail magically replicating San Antonio's riverwalk. Something about plastic bags and Mr. Hanky slowly floating by in aromatic muddy green soup that just doesn't quite set the right atmosphere(though I did see a single turtle the last time I stopped by UH-downtown).

And perhaps Houston is cutting edge, pioneering the substitution of 55-gallon drums for landscaping timbers...

1 posted on 07/20/2003 9:14:36 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Yes, I am a native Houstonian.
2 posted on 07/20/2003 9:16:53 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
"Houston is ugly."

ALL megacities are ugly. Houston is no worse than most, and better than some.

Nice pic of the kinfolk, though.

3 posted on 07/20/2003 9:27:27 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: Wonder Warthog
Thanks, that's me swimming in my living room during Allison.
4 posted on 07/20/2003 9:32:07 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
"Thanks, that's me swimming in my living room during Allison."

LOL--I had moved out of Houston by the time Allison trundled along.

FWIW, the Houston folks would do well to study the actions taken by ole Mayor "Woody" Dumas of Baton Rouge. That man was crooked as the cutting edge of a two-man crosscut saw, but he DID fix Baton Rouge's drainage problems.

5 posted on 07/20/2003 9:40:28 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: Wonder Warthog
ALL megacities are ugly.

Yes they are.

6 posted on 07/20/2003 9:41:27 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Diddle E. Squat
I miss Houston. And it's not that ugly. If you want ugly, come to Omaha. Oh, they're trying to improve this city too. But all the work on a new convention center and beautification project from the airport to downtown is bankrupting the city.
7 posted on 07/20/2003 9:44:29 AM PDT by unbiasedtruth
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Back in 1983 my wife and I drove through Texas from Simi Valley California to Houston where we met her brother on the way to a surprise anniversary party for their mother and stepfather; those 55-gallon barrels were labeled "Rest Areas."

Her brother was fond of saying; "Miles and miles of nothing but miles and miles."

8 posted on 07/20/2003 9:50:44 AM PDT by Old Professer
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To: unbiasedtruth
Beautification projects seem to be bankrupting(or raising taxes in) many cities these days.
9 posted on 07/20/2003 10:02:50 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Dog Gone; deport; Xenalyte; HoustonCurmudgeon; jwalsh07; anymouse; wysiwyg; Flyer; PetroniDE; ...
"SLIME in the ICE machine!" ping
10 posted on 07/20/2003 10:22:00 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Wonder Warthog; Diddle E. Squat
Nice pig, DES !

"Thanks, that's me swimming in my living room during Allison."

So are you two related somehow ??
hehe !


11 posted on 07/20/2003 10:33:50 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Coming Soon !: Freeper site on Comcast. Found the URL. Gotta fix it now.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Something about plastic bags and Mr. Hanky slowly floating by in aromatic muddy green soup that just doesn't quite set the right atmosphere(though I did see a single turtle the last time I stopped by UH-downtown).

I saw that turtle.

12 posted on 07/20/2003 10:35:19 AM PDT by NovemberCharlie
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Thanks, that's me swimming in my living room during Allison.

ROTFL!!!

13 posted on 07/20/2003 10:40:56 AM PDT by Allegra ( No tagline to see here...move along...move along...)
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To: Wonder Warthog
FWIW, the Houston folks would do well to study the actions taken by ole Mayor "Woody" Dumas of Baton Rouge. That man was crooked as the cutting edge of a two-man crosscut saw, but he DID fix Baton Rouge's drainage problems.

Houston's mayor is crooked too and about as inept as they make 'em. He hasn't fixed anything...he's just left a big ol' Texas-sized mess for the next guy to clean up.

14 posted on 07/20/2003 10:44:59 AM PDT by Allegra ( No tagline to see here...move along...move along...)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Houston has nothing to be ashamed of. I just drove through there about about two weeks ago coming in from the east (I-10) and out US 59. I actually thought the city looked cool!

Houston has a long way to go before it could ever take the All Time UGLY prize from L.A.—now that town's an eyesore.

15 posted on 07/20/2003 11:07:06 AM PDT by TonyRo76
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To: carlo3b
FYI...
16 posted on 07/20/2003 11:10:38 AM PDT by jellybean
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Houston has plenty of trees already. They need to get rid of the huge signs & bill boards. They are ugly.
17 posted on 07/20/2003 11:29:15 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Allegra
"Houston's mayor is crooked too and about as inept as they make 'em. He hasn't fixed anything...he's just left a big ol' Texas-sized mess for the next guy to clean up."

Once upon a time, when I lived in Louisiana, I used to believe the stuff about "Louisiana politics" (i.e. that Louisiana politicians are both corrupt and incompetent, while politicians from other locales were neither).

Now that I have lived in a few other locales, I realize that the opposite is true---Louisiana politicians ARE corrupt, but they are FAR MORE COMPETENT than the politicians I have thus far seen in action in other locales--who are AT LEAST as corrupt, and noticeably less competent.

18 posted on 07/20/2003 11:40:22 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: Ditter
I agree the huge ugly signs, strip clubs, and the strip malls are really bad. Zoning is a ground floor opportunity and if you want to see ugly try a drive down FM 1960 in the North West its real bad
19 posted on 07/20/2003 11:45:37 AM PDT by democrats_nightmare
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To: Ditter
Houston has plenty of trees already.

Yep, and one of the tall pines in Memorial Park has a Kalifornia tree-sitter atop it, protesting Maxxam's logging practices.

Wonder if "Trust" is still up there?

It's shaping up to be a busy hurricane season, y'know...

20 posted on 07/20/2003 11:51:07 AM PDT by Allegra ( No tagline to see here...move along...move along...)
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To: MeeknMing
"So are you two related somehow ??"

Hey, all us swine are "bruthas" under the pigskin. Some of us just have better teeth than others.

21 posted on 07/20/2003 11:55:36 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: Wonder Warthog
Driving in Baton Rouge, OTOH, is an abomination. The traffic there is much worse than in cities many times larger. Love the University, hate the city.
22 posted on 07/20/2003 12:01:46 PM PDT by kms61
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To: Wonder Warthog
ALL megacities are ugly. Houston is no worse than most, and better than some.

What I like about Houston (and most larger cities in fly-over country) is they
don't pretend to be beautiful examples of cutting-edge city-spaces.

I visited San Francisco a few years ago when my brother was doing some academic
work at Stanford.

I now call San Francisco "The Disappointment By The Bay".

I'd almost take the humid heat of Houston to avoid the "we're the most beautiful
city" hype of places like The Disappointment By The Bay.
23 posted on 07/20/2003 12:03:45 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Wonder Warthog
LOL !

24 posted on 07/20/2003 12:09:42 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Coming Soon !: Freeper site on Comcast. Found the URL. Gotta fix it now.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
"Houston! Come for the Ugly, stay for the Humidity!"
25 posted on 07/20/2003 12:13:59 PM PDT by Hank Rearden (Dick Gephardt. Before he dicks you.)
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To: NovemberCharlie
I saw that turtle.

Me too, it was hitchhiking north.....

26 posted on 07/20/2003 12:18:34 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Over 30 + years of dealing with stupid people, I still don't have the right to just shoot them.....)
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To: Wonder Warthog; Diddle E. Squat
ALL megacities are ugly. Houston is no worse than most, and better than some.

I disagree that all megacities are ugly. Or perhaps it is just too relative for such a blanket statement. I lived in Houston, aka the Armpit of Texas (ok, perhaps runner up to Beaumont) from 1973-89, which meant I did some living room swimming of my own. But Houston is ugly. Dare I say butt ugly. They've done some good things with downtown these past few years, but Mr. Squat is right on.
27 posted on 07/20/2003 12:18:56 PM PDT by Akira (5 in a row for Big Tex!)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
, and the ugly reference was aimed broadly at Houston's sprawl, lack of zoning and other issues

The lack of zoning is actually one of the things I love about Houston.

Instead of being laid out the way that some hoity-toity "planning board" thinks a city "ought" to be, Houston is built by the demands of the free market. It may not result in a picturesque "Disneyland" like city, but it's extremely *practical*.

And personally, I find things that are functional to be much more beautiful than those that are frivolously decorative. They may not be as "cute" as something designed purely for looks, but there's an esthetic grace to things that are efficient and workable.

In Houston, you're never far from a gas station, hardware store, Radio Shack, book store, restaurant, mall, or anything else you may need. I've been in zoned cities where their idea of proper layout was to put all the malls back-to-back on the other side of the city from the crammed-together residential areas...

And all cities have their ugly areas and picturesque areas. Houston has many picture-postcard areas. It's just that in zoned cities, the ugly areas are purposely placed off the beaten path, so people seldom run across them. In Houston, they're scattered at random, sometimes along major freeways like 59 North.

Zoned cities are built to be looked at. Houston is built to be lived in.

28 posted on 07/20/2003 12:25:09 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: Allegra
Wonder if "Trust" is still up there?

I'll give him a holler out the front door and see if he'd like some pizza!

Oh, wait.. he probably wont eat meat.

29 posted on 07/20/2003 12:38:10 PM PDT by humblegunner (™)
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To: Akira
"I disagree that all megacities are ugly."

Which ones aren't. I lived in Houston too, and have been to NYC, Boston, Philly, Dallas, Atlanta, Chicago, Los Angeles, Portland, Minneapolis, San Francisco, St. Louis, Kansas City, Seattle, Denver, Miami, Amsterdam, Hamburg, and MANY others. I stand by my statement--they were ALL ugly-many much more so than Houston.

30 posted on 07/20/2003 12:55:09 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: kms61
"Driving in Baton Rouge, OTOH, is an abomination. The traffic there is much worse than in cities many times larger. Love the University, hate the city."

Having lived in Baton Rouge for 20 years, I must disagree. Driving on the INTERSTATE in BR "is" an abomination--but all you gotta do is stay off the Interstate and driving is actually pretty easy (other than around LSU during football season!!!).

31 posted on 07/20/2003 12:59:06 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: Ichneumon
I agree 100%. Houston is a city full of the beauty of busy people getting things done. I have always liked its architectural anarchy. If you like those things, it has some areas of dull-as-dishwater traditional architecture and some areas of urban cool. But it also has things that other folks like and need, and I like it a lot better than the desperately staged and ultimately stifling preservationism prevailing in a lot of other cities, especially in Europe.

Even though it is built around the car rather than rails, Houston reminds me in its functionality of a lot of Japanese cities rebuilt after the war. There you see people cramming commercial activity into every available space, even as little outposts of traditional activity continue to survive.

Houston looks like freedom, and that is why I like it.

32 posted on 07/20/2003 1:10:23 PM PDT by untenured
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To: Diddle E. Squat
It's nice to know Out-of-town-Brown is planting so many trees, I guess.

...but at a time when he's laying off fire-fighters and the HPD Crime Lad looks & acts like a high school lad.

33 posted on 07/20/2003 1:14:48 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Diddle E. Squat
I only go into downtown Houston two or three times a year but everytime I do the streets are ALWAYS all torn up, supposedly fixing them. Makes me so mad. Why don't they finish what they start?

As a Houstonian, I don't know who the heck would want to have a convention in downtown Houston.

Out of town Brown, has been a disaster of a mayor for Houston.

34 posted on 07/20/2003 1:15:44 PM PDT by BlueAngel
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To: humblegunner
I'll give him a holler out the front door and see if he'd like some pizza!

Oh, wait.. he probably wont eat meat.

Let's go barbecue steaks on mesquite right under that tree and drive him further 'round the bend. Those pre-packaged cheese crackers and peanut butter things have got to be getting old.

35 posted on 07/20/2003 1:29:26 PM PDT by Allegra ( No tagline to see here...move along...move along...)
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To: jellybean; Ditter; MeeknMing; Dog Gone; humblegunner; Wonder Warthog; Ichneumon; deport; ...
The Quality of Life Advisory Committee of the Greater Houston Partnership and the Quality of Life Coalition

GEEEEZE..... I wonder how much an organization with that many feel-good words in it is costing us?  My bet is if we took the annual budget for that group of egos and put it in grass seed, we could turn Texas into a Friggin Greenhouse!!


36 posted on 07/20/2003 1:31:00 PM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: Diddle E. Squat; bobbyd
This fall, more than 20,000 trees will be planted along the gateways

By January half of them will be dead and brown. The others will be tethered, looking just like newly planted trees. If they want tress they are a little late in their planning

Hey, they can go down to Nasa Road 1 and see the beautiful inlaid brick intersections that lead to a pawn shop and tattoo parlor. There's a new library on Weslayan with a waterfall that is sure pretty. No one can accuse Houston of not wasting millions of dollars on "pretty".

37 posted on 07/20/2003 1:45:10 PM PDT by Flyer (Ask me about my Golden Retriever!)
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To: Ichneumon
I must respectfully disagree with your opinion about Houston.

I feel that the lack of zoning is the free market gone awry. In the part of Houston that I live in I am a few blocks from: “The hick crack bar”, A Mexican supermarket, A Mexican high school disguised as a magnet school. In this neighborhood we have manufacturing facilities right next to homes next to schools next to Auto repair shops. It is horrible. Anyone can open up a business right next to your home and collapse the value of it. There are Semi’s constantly using neighborhood back streets at all times of the day and night. Random streets are packed with cars during the day because someone opened up a firm in a home. Imagine moving into a home only to find out that someone wants to open up a bar next door? How would you feel then. Well in this part of Houston there is nothing you can do about it.

Houston also has a soil problem. There is a thick layer of clay underneath most of the city. This makes it a big problem for construction. Foundations and roads have to be over engineered so they will last and then many times that doesn’t work. Our road problems are tremendous. That is why so many people drive SUV’s and Trucks around here. A normal car gets beat to hell here.
38 posted on 07/20/2003 1:49:40 PM PDT by grapeape (Ask nothing of me but time... I may lose a man but I will never lose a moment -Napoleon)
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To: Wonder Warthog
I guess it's all relative and depends on how you define "ugly". Do you actually think Seattle (downtown and/or suburbs) is even on the same scale of ugliness as Houston?!? (granted, it perhaps has to stop raining before you can gather a good opinion, but beyond that Seattle is great looking) Dallas is nowhere near as ugly as Houston. Neither are Boston or Atlanta (ok, I might be skewed on Atlanta, where I stayed for a work trip and spent most of my time was quite nice, as was the drive to/from the airport).

Houston goes on forever, it is too flat, they can't figure out how to run a freeway construction project to save their lives, it has many run-down areas...it just isn't pleasing to the eye. That's just one man's opinion.

Oh, and I went to college in New Orleans. I'll give you that one. ;-)

But I'd like to take this opportunity to say GO STROS!!!
39 posted on 07/20/2003 1:59:28 PM PDT by Akira (5 in a row for Big Tex!)
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To: carlo3b
Bump !!


40 posted on 07/20/2003 2:07:01 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Coming Soon !: Freeper site on Comcast. Found the URL. Gotta fix it now.)
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To: FFIGHTER
***PING***
41 posted on 07/20/2003 2:09:51 PM PDT by austinTparty
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To: Diddle E. Squat
"I don't see anything wrong with taking them down the North Freeway. It's very dynamic. It's an example of free enterprise and capitalism, which is what built this country, ...It pays me and the 400 people who work here. I don't bite the hand that feeds me."

"I can promise you this, that all the dignitaries coming in for the Tennis Masters Cup will be taken right by my store, may mind coming down the freeway. But they don't mind taking my money for sponsorships at Reliant Stadium."

Mattress Mac for Mayor!

42 posted on 07/20/2003 2:19:45 PM PDT by new cruelty
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To: carlo3b
Houstons quality of life could not be beat in any major city in the country UNTIL Mayor "Out of town" Brown went on a road construction binge. Now every road 'on the west side' has construction on it somewhere along its route & 1/3 of the intersections are torn up. Don't even try to get anywhere between 5-7pm. I don't get out in the am so I am asssuming it is just as bad.
43 posted on 07/20/2003 2:19:48 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: All

44 posted on 07/20/2003 2:20:43 PM PDT by new cruelty
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Don't piss away our money on goofiness.

Houston is what it is, and most folks don't move there for "quality of life" or any other bogus slogan. They move there to make $$$, and then get the heck out.

If you feel that you must do "something," RENT some nice potted plants and then have them taken away when the party's over.
45 posted on 07/20/2003 2:28:44 PM PDT by lodwick
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To: Hot Tabasco
Me too, it was hitchhiking north.....

Wonder what it saw in Dallas...

46 posted on 07/20/2003 3:22:09 PM PDT by NovemberCharlie
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To: grapeape
Poor grapeape, but didn't buy a home in an area with 'deed restrictions'. That is Houstons answer to zoning & it works fine for those who pay attenion. No one in my neighborhood can start a business in their home, garage or yard. They can't put their cars up on blocks in the yard or keep livestock. There are other things we can't do but it serves to keep the property values up & everyones house is presentable. It doesn't stifel creativity or make your neighbor the gestapo. We all know & agree on what is permitted. It takes a little work to keep them current but like I said, its worth it.
47 posted on 07/20/2003 3:39:05 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Wonder Warthog
ALL megacities are ugly.

Well maybe not visually, however, *all* big cities are overcrowded, have gangs, tons of drugs, murders, lots of crime, illegals, nightmare traffic problems, little privacy, pollution, and generally have a very poor quality of life. I don't care how pretty they design them, or make them appear, they all suffer the above problems.

48 posted on 07/20/2003 3:40:35 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (Are these people for real?)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Philly and Houston are the two ugliest cities I've been to.

Actually, Baltimore is an abomination too. As is Trenton, NJ.

Austin, Dallas, San Diego, New York, and Denver aren't so bad at all.
49 posted on 07/20/2003 3:44:28 PM PDT by Monty22
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To: carlo3b
GEEEEZE..... I wonder how much an organization with that many feel-good words in it is costing us?

I think if you use the Scrabble scoring system and multiply by $1 million, you'll be close ;)

50 posted on 07/20/2003 3:49:26 PM PDT by jellybean
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