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| 7/18/03
| Bob Eimiller
Posted on 07/18/2003 11:57:56 AM PDT by Bob Eimiller
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To: Arkinsaw
Gephardt is the only other one that scares me right now. Graham used to and still may at some point. Lieberman is hit or miss.
Kerry is toast. Edwards is also toast.
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posted on
07/18/2003 12:19:43 PM PDT
by
Dan from Michigan
("Say hello to my little friend!" - Tony Montana)
To: Bob Eimiller
"obviously Kerry is wallowing in the Mickey Mouse field... why would he be the candidate?"
I think he could BS his way into the top spot. I think the people are tired of Gephart and the rest of the silly gooses on the platform. I guess I just feel that if I were forced to sit down and have lunch with any of the seven/eight/or nine dwarfs, I'd probably choose, reluctantly, Kerry. Illogical? Just the thought that these goofs are the best the Demmycrats can offer is illogical.
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posted on
07/18/2003 12:23:00 PM PDT
by
laweeks
To: Bob Eimiller
A lot of people are talking about Hillary in 04. She will run ONLY if she thinks Bush is vulnerable. If it looks like Bush is a sure winner, then she will wait until 08 when no incumbent will be running. She wants the Dem candidate to lose in 04, if its not her, so she will have a clear field in 08. Simple as that.
To: BonnieJ
LOL...Do you really thin Hillary would play 2nd fiddle to anyone? especially Al Gore??
To: Arkinsaw
Dean/Clark Possible. Dean will need a moderating and Southern running made with some national security credentials to have a chance. Clark could look appealing. Graham's big appeal is Florida. He needs that to win. What about Dean/Graham? I'm still thinking that they'll have to really go for the woman's vote (prepare for the doom-and-gloom, "Wait until abortion is illegal!" scenarios that totally ignore the fact that women poll more pro-life than men do) and that another female VP could be possible. After all, despiration drove them to that conclusion in 1984 when things looked grim, they could try it again. Let's just hope that we don't have to hear Kerry or Dean saying, "Where's the beef?"
Thinking about it regional factors, they could try to play Hillary as a four-home-state wonder -- Illinois, Arkansas, New York, and Hollywood -- er -- California. They need all of those states to win. I simply don't think she'll accept a VP slot. I think she wants it all and I don't think she's ready for that in 2004. Perhaps Hillary will simply run solo in 2008, so she won't have to share the spotlight.
To: Dan from Michigan
I brokered the idea of Hillary!ous waltzing into the convention a supporter, then out of the convention a Candidate, wed on WFTD...
To: dubyaismypresident
Well, take it like this.
Did you see the post i pinged you to earlier? About the Uranium non-issue as it relates to the Africa trip...?
Perhaps that was a Dry run.
Supposing another Piece of holdover dogsh!t is sitting waiting to expose some other ....ginned up scandal...at a propitious
moment prior to the election...
long enough for the press to beat the drums, and outraged members of Congress to demand investigations...etc...
AFTER Hillary!ous stages a coup over Dean at the convention and picks Clark as a running mate....
219 posted on 07/16/2003 2:05 PM EDT by hobbes1 ( Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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also
Consider also, that McAuliffe is still running the DNC.....
It will be curious to see how their money starts getting spent as the primaries begin to shake out.....
And along the still more dirty tricks line...
Consider the fundraising scandal that put a big crimp in Edwards campaign... Remember, He is the only
Southern Democrat that was originally being talked up.... (Graham is tier2 and Doesn't count...)
(From an article..Not the Location of the Law Firm..)
Having to return the donations surely says little about Edwards' personal integrity. Some employees of
a law firm in Little Rock, Arkansas, apparently gave the Edwards campaign the maximum legal
donation of $2,000 believing their employer, a friend and supporter of the senator, would reimburse
them. That's illegal under federal law, and once the violation became known, the Edwards campaign
promptly returned the money. The rest of us can take some comfort in knowing that Edwards did the
right thing, at least once the Washington Post found out his fundraisers had done the wrong thing.
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posted on
07/18/2003 12:27:27 PM PDT
by
hobbes1
( Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
And Bills tome will be out just before Election day, so If he travels with her, that will cut down on the quizzing of her.....
47
posted on
07/18/2003 12:28:23 PM PDT
by
hobbes1
( Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
To: freedumb2003
who is whom
You must be under 50, so you are forgiven. (The public schools stopped teaching grammar about 40 years ago.)
To: TheBigB
My second pick-the Dems have to have Florida, Regards
49
posted on
07/18/2003 12:28:49 PM PDT
by
Helms
(Guilty of heavy graphics posting, I am doing “text only” penance)
To: Bob Eimiller
Hillary's plan is working perfectly. Her party is so far left that she will look conservative by the time she runs. She is good at faking being moderate. That will unite the democrats. What worries me more, is who will the GOP have to run against her? Rice? Powell? Jeb? ??
50
posted on
07/18/2003 12:29:09 PM PDT
by
cd jones
To: Uncle Hal
Hillary will not wait until 2008... that ongoing book tour and the massive media activity on her behalf..and the media Iraq attack on Bush has CLINTON SLEAZE spread all over it...
To: Bob Eimiller
Negatives??? do you think the Clinton's can't handle "NEGATIVES" in the "RAT" merry go round? There are many more RAT negatives with KERRY than CLINTON... the RAT Rank and file LOVE Hillary. The Clintons handle negatives by outlasting them. That's their plan this time. Hillary could wint the primary, but not the general election. Her negative image with the general public is just too imposing.
Kerry is a virtual unknown in most of the country. They'll form their first real opinion about him as he campaigns. That's a lot easier than Hillary, who would have to change already formed public opinion about her.
If Hillary is careless, she'll assume hardcore Democrat love for her will overcome the rest of the public's contempt. But I think she'll use the next four years to re-re-reinvent herself. She expects the Dem candidate to lose, and will be able to convince her party that she could have won, without having to prove it.
To: Arkinsaw
Who is president Bartlett? Never heard of him.
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posted on
07/18/2003 12:29:53 PM PDT
by
ASA Vet
("Those who know, don't talk. Those who talk, don't know." (I'm in the Sgt Schultz group))
To: ASA Vet
Tom Broke-off is going to run?
To: hobbes1
Hillary!(tm) I don't think can pull it off against Bush. I really don't. Her biggest weakness is charisma. Bill had it and enough not to completely lose the male vote. Guys hate Hillary's guts. She's the epidomy of an icy cold bitch.
She'd be IMO a Dukakis type candidate, and wouldn't do well enough in the blue collar dem suburbs to win.
Now in 2008 or even 2012? I can see that.
55
posted on
07/18/2003 12:33:01 PM PDT
by
Dan from Michigan
("Say hello to my little friend!" - Tony Montana)
To: Uncle Hal
But no one and I mean no one has explained how Hillary is even remotely qualified for the Presidency. Oops, my reasoning is working again.
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posted on
07/18/2003 12:33:39 PM PDT
by
Helms
(Guilty of heavy graphics posting, I am doing “text only” penance)
To: Bob Eimiller
Media Iraq Attack
explained Rememeber, the guy that wrote the op-ed that started it, organized X42s Africa trip...
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posted on
07/18/2003 12:33:39 PM PDT
by
hobbes1
( Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
To: The people have spoken
>>
You must be under 50, so you are forgiven. (The public schools stopped teaching grammar about 40 years ago.) <<
I am, but you are right to chastize me. I despise bad grammar and make every effort to right real good.
58
posted on
07/18/2003 12:33:54 PM PDT
by
freedumb2003
(Peace through Strength)
To: Bob Eimiller
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posted on
07/18/2003 12:34:51 PM PDT
by
hobbes1
( Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
To: Bob Eimiller
Kerry/Graham.
Eastern lib tries to win by nabbing Florida (Graham.)
It won't work. :)
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posted on
07/18/2003 12:36:12 PM PDT
by
veronica
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