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| 7/10/03
| Stanley Crouch
Posted on 07/10/2003 7:06:23 AM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone
Radio Free Africa I had no idea one didn't already exist. We must really and truly not give a fig about Africa.
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posted on
07/10/2003 7:10:08 AM PDT
by
GraniteStateConservative
(Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
To: areafiftyone
Bush should avoid committing troops
Bush should avoid committing troops
Bush should avoid committing troops
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posted on
07/10/2003 7:11:16 AM PDT
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To: StatesEnemy
I really don't think Bush is going to commit troops. I think the other African countries are going to send in troops. We will just have some people there to show them what to do.
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posted on
07/10/2003 7:12:39 AM PDT
by
areafiftyone
(The U.N. needs a good Flush!)
To: areafiftyone
Isn't Stanley Crouch black? It must be verry cold in hell these days. What a grand President we have.
To: Trust but Verify
So is President Bush now our second "Black" president?
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posted on
07/10/2003 7:17:26 AM PDT
by
dfwgator
To: StatesEnemy
Let me add to what you've said:
Bush should avoid committing troops
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posted on
07/10/2003 7:18:10 AM PDT
by
Redbob
To: areafiftyone
The speech shocked many because no Republican President since Lincoln has ever seriously addressed slavery or its consequences with such direct eloquence and depth of vision. He said that slavery was one of the great crimes of history.
Well... let's lookup history. If I'm not mistaken, slavery was quite common in history. In fact, slavery was quite common in most societies. One good example of slave owner was Abraham. Was Abraham a criminal? Maybe he was.
Then, there were other crimes in 'history'. As we all know, most Amer-Indian empires practiced mass killings of war prisoners and sometimes their own people. They were killed/dismembered by the thousands or tens of thousands and their blood was consumed by the survivors or offered to their diverse gods. Then, let's not forget Hitler - everyone is familiar with his accomplishments. Or Stalin - he too, responsible for tens of millions of dead bodies AND for millions being sent to slave labor camps. We then have Mao's re-education efforts that killed millions of Chinese. And the Cambodian death camps where about 25% of that country population was killed.
How does African slavery compare, given the historical record? Did George Bush knowingly exaggerate or were his speech writers ignorant of history?
To: Trust but Verify
Stanley Crouch is black, I looked at his picture. I wondered how he could get away with using the word "Negro."
To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
Yeah, but whites are held to a higher standard, don'cha know. I guess that is kinda racist too when you think about it.
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posted on
07/10/2003 7:26:19 AM PDT
by
dfwgator
To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
I don't think he limited that remark to slavery as practiced in America. It has been a crime throughout history, as any group that was strong enough to enslave another group did so.
It was only Western culture that said, "Wait, we have the power to enslave others, but it is wrong, and we are going to stop it." Then, they made the whole rest of the world stop it, too. (Except for pockets of slavers still existing in Africa). That's one reason I'm proud to be an American, and proud of everything all those dead white guys have given the world.
To: Trust but Verify
Yes he is.
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posted on
07/10/2003 7:31:41 AM PDT
by
areafiftyone
(The U.N. needs a good Flush!)
To: areafiftyone
Of the slaves destined west for the new world, only 5% ended up in what is now the United States. Many, many more went to the caribean, Brazil etc...
To: areafiftyone
Sounded to me like the burden was put on "bad" white Christians basically the founders of our country...quite a few I suspect held slaves Pres. Bush made sure to mention rapes and torture of slaves by their "bad" Christian slave owners
It was imo a rather imflamatory speech ...
This coupled with an AIDS speech in Botswana
Does not put the onus of AIDS infection on the lifestyles of the infected/infectors..but promises tax payers money to fund treatment without really addressing the cause...
in any meaningfull way...they keep infecting/getting infected we pass out US tax dollars
Meanwhile muslims in Palestine blow up Israeli school children and get land and US tax dollars for their terrorism...
Of course this imo is merely trolling for votes with American sodomites and their pals
American muslims and their pals and American blacks and their pals...
All paid for by the US tax payer....
A tad too Clintonesque for my blood
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posted on
07/10/2003 7:38:33 AM PDT
by
joesnuffy
(Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
To: gleneagle
The British abolished their slave trade in 1807 and slavery itself in 1834 in the Carribean. But I am sure the trade still went on after that.
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posted on
07/10/2003 7:55:33 AM PDT
by
areafiftyone
(The U.N. needs a good Flush!)
To: areafiftyone
Negro Americans Interesting term ... haven't seen it before. Is it the up-and-coming catch-phrase, or is it something Couch has coined as an alternative to "African-American"?
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posted on
07/10/2003 7:59:30 AM PDT
by
r9etb
To: dfwgator
Hardly. Is is just a man who beleives that all men are created equal. Equal is equal.
To: lady lawyer
I think, by using the term Negro, which is a definitive term of race, he is acknowledging the recent emphasis on race, as opposed to country/continent of origin.
My opinion is that it's a poke in the eye to those who don't want to recognize that MLK's dream of content of character is still supplanted by a focus on color of skin.
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posted on
07/10/2003 8:28:22 AM PDT
by
Blueflag
(Res ipsa loquitor)
To: Blueflag
I had a boss who was Afro-Caribbean and he didn't always appreciate the term African-American because he felt that not all lumped into that category WERE African. Many were Caribs or Latinos in background. It's become a convenient term but not always accurate.
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posted on
07/10/2003 8:47:44 AM PDT
by
Marysecretary
(GOD is still in control!)
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