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Posted on 06/22/2003 2:19:34 PM PDT by El Conservador
NEW YORK (Reuters) -- A New York teenager alleged on Thursday that teachers violated her civil rights when they suspended her from school for wearing a "Barbie is a Lesbian" T-shirt.
Lawyers who filed a lawsuit on her behalf in Manhattan federal court said 14-year-old Natalie Young is openly lesbian and that a teacher laughed at her, calling the garment and its reference to the popular Barbie doll "inappropriate."
Young alleged that the principal held her for three hours in an office at the school in the borough of Queens on April 10, 2002 and refused to allow her to return to class while she wore the T-shirt.
A spokesman for the city education department, a defendant in the lawsuit, declined immediate comment.
Young was suspended for the day and the principal threatened to send her home again if she wore the T-shirt to school in future, the lawsuit alleged.
"Schools cannot legally engage in this type of selective, content-based suppression of speech," lawyer Dan Perez said. "If she had worn a 'Barbie Supports the Troops in the War in Iraq' T-shirt, she would have been called a patriot."
Perez said that on another school day before the T-shirt incident, teachers made Young remove rainbow colored beads from her hair, although she was not suspended then.
The lawsuit, which names the education department, school principal and several teachers as defendants, seeks a declaration from the court that Young's constitutional right to free speech was violated. It asks the department to issue guidelines on students' dress and on dealing with students' expression of their sexual orientation.
The lawsuit, which was filed in the name of the student's mother, Kathleen Hodges, because Young is a minor, also seeks unspecified monetary damages.
"That is not the most important issue here but if a jury decides to contribute to Natalie's college fund, all the better," Perez said.
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14 years old and already a lesbian? Something doesn't seem right in this story...
To: El Conservador
Hey she learned it in school and it has to be correct.
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posted on
06/22/2003 2:21:05 PM PDT
by
dts32041
("The avalanche has started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.")
To: dts32041
Of course Barbie's a lesbian. Jeez... everybody knows Ken's as queer as a three dollar bill.
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posted on
06/22/2003 2:25:37 PM PDT
by
Tijeras_Slim
(I am not a prime demographic, I am a MAN!)
To: El Conservador
C'mon, you have to know by now it is a genetic thing, something you are born with and have to work with your entire life.
That said, there is a simple solution. School uniforms.
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posted on
06/22/2003 2:42:05 PM PDT
by
Brad C.
To: El Conservador
"Schools cannot legally engage in this type of selective, content-based suppression of speech," I am sure that would also be the case if there were a Christian message on the shirt, NOT.
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posted on
06/22/2003 2:45:11 PM PDT
by
c-b 1
To: El Conservador
Ken is a sexual predator and Barbie is a lesbian = Bubba is a sexual predator and Hitlery is queer
To: El Conservador
14 years old and already a lesbian? Mom's raising her that way, maybe? I notice Dad wasn't mentioned, but the lawsuit is in the mother's name.
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posted on
06/22/2003 2:48:28 PM PDT
by
Yeti
To: El Conservador
Barbies hair is too long, and she's generally just too good looking to be a Lesbian.
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posted on
06/22/2003 2:53:13 PM PDT
by
7 x 77
To: El Conservador
I don't think t-shirts with sexual content on them is appropriate in K-12 school for anybody. And the teacher who laughed--well, gosh. Isn't that what people wearing goofy t-shirts are after anyway?
I wish I could tell her: Save it for later! You have plenty of time to be sexual, one way or another, later, but you're only a young teenager once. Swim. Ride horses. Read good books. Learn how to cook. Learn how to change oil in a car. Volunteer at a hospital, a vet clinic, the animal shelter. What's between your legs doesn't have to rule your life now (or ever) if you are willing to apply yourself to something else while you still have a free roof over your head and someone else worrying about your health care costs.
Why such a hurry to put a marginalizing label on yourself before you're even old enough to consent to having any kind of sex with anybody?
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posted on
06/22/2003 3:16:48 PM PDT
by
ChemistCat
(Transformers look just as good by morning light as they did the night before.)
To: El Conservador
And all of this stuff was so innocent back in the late 60's/early 70's.
Alas.
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posted on
06/22/2003 3:20:10 PM PDT
by
joanil
To: Tijeras_Slim
ROFL
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posted on
06/22/2003 3:21:06 PM PDT
by
putupon
(nothing more to read here, move along)
To: El Conservador

Seems to me this 14 yo
GIRL is yelling, "Look at me, I'm a queer!!!" just a little too loudly.
I wonder how old she was when she decided she wuz gonna be a gueer? Whatta think? 5, 7, 10?
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posted on
06/22/2003 3:35:15 PM PDT
by
upchuck
(Contribute to "Republicans for Al Sharpton for President in 2004." Dial 1-800-SLAPTHADONKEY :)
To: ChemistCat
That is excellent advice.
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posted on
06/22/2003 3:36:25 PM PDT
by
secret garden
(San Antonio Spurs - 2003 World Champs !)
To: El Conservador
In this day and age I'm surprised she wasn't made student of the year. I'd expect nothing less from those who run our socialist indoctrination centers.
To: Tijeras_Slim
Ken is a faggot allright.
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posted on
06/22/2003 4:03:48 PM PDT
by
Bullish
To: upchuck
It's a plea for attention, a different kind of suicide attempt, that's all. Acting out.
If someone under 19 declares that she or he is gay, I flat-out don't believe it. If it becomes fact over time, that may be as much from the pressure to live by a decision as from any biological reality. Between 14 and about 25 the brain is just programmed to respond to sexual stimulation and doesn't much filter where it comes from. Any sexual image or literature is going to have a huge effect. The relentless quest for friction isn't particularly well-guided at that age unless some external control is applied. That's why teen boys so often flirt with gay behavior, then settle down to be perfectly straight. Between those ages the source of stimulation/friction hasn't narrowed down to anything you could specifically call "orientation." That's something that takes some years.
It's a huge argument for trying to limit the sexual stimulaton this society imposes on youngsters. Brains of this age are over-sensitive to it. If they are thinking about it on the average one out of every ten waking minutes, all on their own, without outside help, that leaves nine minutes tops for other activities. If they aren't planning on a career in the sex industry, perhaps they should be spending that nine minutes on things that relate to the other 95% of what they need to know how to do to be an adult!
Yes, I believe that gay adults are neurologically different from straight adults. That's proven by autopsies and CAT scans. I just don't believe that the still-elastic brain of a teenager settles on the matter as early as many people seem to think.
I'm not saying that girls can't be more "masculine" in interests and behavior...but let's not mistake a tomboy for a lesbian. Perhaps she's making that mistake here about herself. If she liked trucks as a tot and likes wargaming as a teenager, that doesn't mean she has to eschew normal marriage and pregnancy later.
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posted on
06/22/2003 4:28:13 PM PDT
by
ChemistCat
(Transformers look just as good by morning light as they did the night before.)
To: 7 x 77
Barbies hair is too long, and she's generally just too good looking to be a Lesbian. Perhaps she is a LUG - Lesbian Until Graduation.
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posted on
06/22/2003 4:31:14 PM PDT
by
dfwgator
To: ChemistCat

What you said!!
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posted on
06/22/2003 6:33:30 PM PDT
by
upchuck
(Contribute to "Republicans for Al Sharpton for President in 2004." Dial 1-800-SLAPTHADONKEY :)
To: El Conservador
To: ChemistCat
Yes, I believe that gay adults are neurologically different from straight adults. That's proven by autopsies and CAT scans.I don't anything has been PROVEN. There have been inferences from some autopsies, but no one is sure whether the changes were the cause of the homosexual behavior, or a result of long time homosexual behavior.
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posted on
06/22/2003 6:42:44 PM PDT
by
SuziQ
To: El Conservador
,,, meanwhile, south of the border...
Gay competition winner booed for looking too 'straight'
23 June 2003 By MICHELLE QUIRKE
click here
A Ms Gay Downunder winner was booed on stage at the weekend because she says she did not look gay enough.
Bindie Redden, 33, dressed as Barbie and later as a Playboy bunny with long blonde hair, lipstick and a fluffy tail, said she entered the competition at Wellington's [New Zealand] gay nightclub Pound to make a point.
"I don't look like the average lesbian. They look like boys, they don't shave under their arms, they have short hair. They just automatically assume that I'm straight."
Ms Redden said her supporters told her there was booing and calls for her to "get straight", though she did not hear it onstage.
"I really did not think I was going to win. . .. It's very political. For someone who looks like me to win, it's a big thing."
Drag queen Pollyfilla, one of three competition judges, said she was disappointed with the negative reaction from some women in the crowd.
"It's just a bit of fun. . .. The queer community as a group gets discriminated against so much, we don't need it from within our own ranks."
Competition organiser Cathie Sheat said she assumed the booing was an attempt by fans of other contestants to counter the large group of "Vote for Barbie" banner-bearers.
None of the seven other competitors had complained about the judges' choice.
"The woman who won, it could be interpreted that she was very straight looking, but I'd hate to think that the gay community was making rules about how we're supposed to look or be. If someone wants to enter the Ms Gay Downunder competition, that's gay enough for me, and she is queer. It's a matter of what the judges thought on the night," Ms Sheat said.
The judges made their choice based on categories including audience appeal, personality, stage presence, talent and show concept, casual and formal wear, and a question and answer section.
The marks were very close.
"We're happy with the process of how a winner was chosen," Ms Sheat said.
To: El Conservador
"Schools cannot legally engage in this type of selective, content-based suppression of speech," lawyer Dan Perez said. Now I'm not a lawyer, but somehow I'm pretty sure content-based suppression of speech is pretty common in just about all High Schools.
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posted on
06/22/2003 6:59:35 PM PDT
by
Fzob
(Why does this tag line keep showing up?)
To: El Conservador
The lawsuit, which was filed in the name of the student's mother, Kathleen Hodges, because Young is a minor, also seeks unspecified monetary damages. "That is not the most important issue here but if a jury decides to contribute to Natalie's college fund, all the better," Perez said.
Oh, no, of course money is never the point. No, no, of course not. And where would the money come from? The jury is passing the hat? What? No? Tax-payer money? Yeah, that's right, you stinky cows, belly up to the trough and get "yours." I hope Natalie grows up, goes to the Palestinian territories, and tries saving a terrorist's house from a bulldozer. I'm sorry, but I hate this self-satisfied twit already.
To: SuziQ
Yes. We know only that there are changes. We don't know what they mean or if they are congenital or acquired. I hope I didn't imply that *I* know which came first (chicken or the egg) --but I also know that gay activists don't know either.
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posted on
06/22/2003 7:13:05 PM PDT
by
ChemistCat
(Transformers look just as good by morning light as they did the night before.)
To: El Conservador
Well, I couldn't wear my Red Dog shirt either in school. Life sucks, get a helmet.
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posted on
06/22/2003 7:45:29 PM PDT
by
Dan from Michigan
("Say goodnite to da Bad Guy" - Tony Montana)
To: El Conservador
"Barbie is a Lesbian"Is that true? Sure explains a lot...
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posted on
06/22/2003 7:49:27 PM PDT
by
Libloather
(Just spreadin' the luv - can you FEEL it?)
To: El Conservador
Young alleged that the principal held her for three hours in an office at the school in the borough of Queens on April 10, 2002 and refused to allow her to return to class while she wore the T-shirt.I guess she should have just taken the shirt off. Right?
Then she could have returned to class.
The boys AND the girls could have gotten an eyefull.
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posted on
06/22/2003 7:58:02 PM PDT
by
Just another Joe
(FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
To: joanil
I never was fooled by those pushing the damaging sexual and political agendas.
To: El Conservador
14-year-old Natalie Young is openly lesbian Product of indoctrination.
To: ChemistCat
I don't think t-shirts with sexual content on them is appropriate in K-12 school for anybody.Exactly! Again it's about what they do not what they are. You don't see normal kids with shirts that say Heterosexual YOU!
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