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(NY) Teen sues over "lesbian Barbie" shirt ban
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| June 19, 2003
Posted on 06/19/2003 1:54:35 PM PDT by Sweet_Sunflower29
A New York teen-ager has alleged teachers violated her civil rights when they suspended her from school for wearing a "Barbie is a Lesbian" T-shirt.
Lawyers who filed a lawsuit on her behalf in Manhattan federal court on Thursday said 14-year-old Natalie Young is openly lesbian and that a teacher laughed at her, calling the garment and its reference to the popular Barbie doll "inappropriate."
Young alleged that the principal held her for three hours in an office at the school in the borough of Queens on April 10, 2002 and refused to allow her to return to class while she wore the T-shirt.
A spokesman for the city education department, a defendant in the lawsuit, declined immediate comment.
Young was suspended for the day and the principal threatened to send her home again if she wore the T-shirt to school in future, the lawsuit alleged.
"Schools cannot legally engage in this type of selective, content-based suppression of speech," lawyer Dan Perez said. "If she had worn a 'Barbie Supports the Troops in the War in Iraq (news - web sites)' T-shirt, she would have been called a patriot."
Perez said that on another school day before the T-shirt incident, teachers made Young remove rainbow coloured beads from her hair, although she was not suspended then.
The lawsuit, which names the education department, school principal and several teachers as defendants, seeks a declaration from the court that Young's constitutional right to free speech was violated. It asks the department to issue guidelines on students' dress and on dealing with students' expression of their sexual orientation.
The lawsuit, which was filed in the name of the student's mother, Kathleen Hodges, because Young is a minor, also seeks unspecified monetary damages.
"That is not the most important issue here but if a jury decides to contribute to Natalie's college fund, all the better," Perez said.
TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: barbie; barbiedoll; downourthroats; homosexualagenda; lawsuitabuse; mattel; moneymoneymoney; publicschools; publicschoolsystem; teenagelesbian; tshirt; whatdamages; youpayforthis
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To: Sweet_Sunflower29
If the shirt violated the school dress code then she has no case. There were all kinds of shirts banned when I was in HS like beer and tobacco company shirts.
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posted on
06/19/2003 1:57:09 PM PDT
by
smadurski
To: Sweet_Sunflower29
At 14 she doesn't know she a lesbian. She may have tendencies (sp), but she probably just wants attention, and she's getting it.
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posted on
06/19/2003 1:57:29 PM PDT
by
bedolido
(please let my post be on an even number... small even/odd phobia here)
To: Sweet_Sunflower29
My daughter at age 6 created a "biker" Barbie with marking pens.
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posted on
06/19/2003 1:57:49 PM PDT
by
Thud
To: Sweet_Sunflower29
Barbie is lesbian?!!?!?!?!? Poor Ken, he was the last to know...
To: Thud
My sons created a gaggle of headless barbies, much to my daughters' shock, a couple of years ago.
:*)
To: Sweet_Sunflower29
gaggle of headless barbiesBarbies come in gaggles (still on point).
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posted on
06/19/2003 2:02:12 PM PDT
by
bedolido
(please let my post be on an even number... small even/odd phobia here)
To: FeliciaCat
Barbie is lesbian?!!?!?!?!? Poor Ken, he was the last to know... I always thought Ken was a little light in the loafers himself.
So9
To: FeliciaCat
Poor Ken, he was the last to know... Ken's a Eunuch !!
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posted on
06/19/2003 2:03:08 PM PDT
by
AdamSelene235
(Like all the jolly good fellows, I drink my whiskey clear....)
To: Servant of the Nine
little light in the loafersagree!!!...lol
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posted on
06/19/2003 2:03:26 PM PDT
by
bedolido
(please let my post be on an even number... small even/odd phobia here)
To: Sweet_Sunflower29
If she is practicing lesbian, time for some investigation by the police.
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posted on
06/19/2003 2:04:14 PM PDT
by
ikka
To: Servant of the Nine
It depends on which Ken...mine was "sporty Ken" he came with a tennis racket and golf club and the cool 70's haircut....my barbie had aqua eye shadow and a matching bikini with a killer tan...
To: Sweet_Sunflower29
Is something special going to happen when the one millionth teenager talks his or her parents into suing the local school authority over an issue of dress? Will they be included in the next Real World? Will Fifty Cent play a concert in their town?
We should do something to mark this special event. It's coming up fast.
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posted on
06/19/2003 2:05:17 PM PDT
by
thegreatbeast
(Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
To: bedolido
Exactly. What's a 14 year old even doing having sex?
To: FeliciaCat
It depends on which Ken...mine was "sporty Ken" he came with a tennis racket and golf club and the cool 70's haircut....my barbie had aqua eye shadow and a matching bikini with a killer tan...When my older sister would leave I would take her barbi--- maybe this is for another time.
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posted on
06/19/2003 2:08:11 PM PDT
by
bedolido
(please let my post be on an even number... small even/odd phobia here)
To: Sweet_Sunflower29
I couldn't wear my old "Red Dog" T-shirt in high school. Life sucks, get a helmet.
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posted on
06/19/2003 2:11:16 PM PDT
by
Dan from Michigan
("Say goodnite to da Bad Guy" - Tony Montana)
To: Sweet_Sunflower29
"Schools cannot legally engage in this type of selective, content-based suppression of speech," lawyer Dan Perez said. "If she had worn a 'Barbie Supports the Troops in the War in Iraq (news - web sites)' T-shirt, she would have been called a patriot."Would he still say that if school officials wore T-shirts with "Dan Perez is a Headline Grabbing Shyster"?
To: Sweet_Sunflower29
It's this girl's constitutional right to wear that ridiculous shirt. Just as it should be a students constitutional right to where a shirt that states proud to be heterosexual or Jesus saves.
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posted on
06/19/2003 2:14:07 PM PDT
by
week 71
To: bedolido
you were one of those brothers who took thier sisters barbie's cut their heads off and tied their bodies to your tonka trucks while racing them down the steepest hill you could find...am I right? ;)
To: Sweet_Sunflower29
OK, time to bring back school uniforms:
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posted on
06/19/2003 2:17:36 PM PDT
by
Xthe17th
(FREE THE STATES. Repudiate the 17th amendment!)
To: week 71
Just as it should be a students constitutional right to where a shirt that states proud to be heterosexual or Jesus saves.Yup! It should be the same, however, they may have a problem with the "Jesus" part (I am a Christian too).
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posted on
06/19/2003 2:18:20 PM PDT
by
bedolido
(please let my post be on an even number... small even/odd phobia here)
To: FeliciaCat
My friend's sister's Ken doll had an unfortunate bomb disposal episode when trying to "disarm" an M-80 that was found under the barbie corvette....And Barbie herself learned the hard way that hairspray and bic lighters don't go well together....
To: bedolido
"At 14 she doesn't know she a lesbian." Of course she knows. At 10 or 11, I knew that I was heterosexual (attracted to girls).
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To: Sweet_Sunflower29
"Barbie is a Lesbian"Can't be. She's never even been seen at a WNBA game.
To: Sweet_Sunflower29
My son has a shirt that he can't wear to school. It takes the phrase "shit happens" and rewords it according to different religions. Very funny but irreverant.
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posted on
06/19/2003 2:23:25 PM PDT
by
farmfriend
( Isaiah 55:10,11)
To: tuna_battle_slight_return
Of course she knows. At 10 or 11, I knew that I was heterosexual (attracted to girls).I disagree. She may have tendencies, but she isn't mature enough to understand her feelings.
(attracted to girls)?...hmmmm was that a slam?
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posted on
06/19/2003 2:24:14 PM PDT
by
bedolido
(please let my post be on an even number... small even/odd phobia here)
To: bedolido
It should be the same, however, they may have a problem with the "Jesus" part (I am a Christian too).
Indeed. Frankly I'm surprised the school did anything. It is normally Christian attire or Bibles that are banned from government schools.
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posted on
06/19/2003 2:25:03 PM PDT
by
week 71
To: Sweet_Sunflower29
"That is not the most important issue here but if a jury decides to contribute to Natalie's college fund, all the better," Perez said. How about if this precious 14 year old lesbian worked on getting high grades for a scholarship instead of expecting the 'High School Monitary Pervert Award'.
To: Thud
Barbie looked a lot more butch after my daughter got done cutting her hair.
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posted on
06/19/2003 2:30:21 PM PDT
by
eno_
To: PBRSTREETGANG
>Can't be. She's never even been seen at a WNBA game.
To: week 71
It's this girl's constitutional rightStudents have the right to receive an education while attending school. Therefore, schools institute dress codes forbidding that clothing which would reasonably be expected to disrupt the classroom. That's why dress codes survive court challenges.
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posted on
06/19/2003 2:33:09 PM PDT
by
newgeezer
(Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary. You have the right to be wrong.)
To: Sweet_Sunflower29
This girl? has major mental problems and is confronting authority to be noticed. It's a shame that she isn't institutonalized until her problems are resolved. It's the ol' liberal "let's sue" mentality.
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posted on
06/19/2003 2:34:46 PM PDT
by
zip
To: farmfriend
My son has a shirt that he can't wear to school. It takes the phrase "sh[*]
t happens" and rewords it according to different religions. Very funny but irreverant. Some religions are beyond reverence. For instance, "Islam Happens" ...
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posted on
06/19/2003 2:36:21 PM PDT
by
newgeezer
(Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary. You have the right to be wrong.)
To: newgeezer
"Students have the right to receive an education while attending school. Therefore, schools institute dress codes forbidding that
clothing which would reasonably be expected to disrupt the classroom. That's why dress codes survive court challenges."
I understand that view point. However it vital students learn to go through this world where people disagree with them. Learn tolerance as it is truly defined... disagreeing with someone but not hating them. Unlike how some define tolerance... as believing everything is okay so long as it doesn't hurt some one.
cordially
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posted on
06/19/2003 2:39:35 PM PDT
by
week 71
To: Sweet_Sunflower29
A well-reared 14-year-old shouldn't be openly anything.
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posted on
06/19/2003 2:40:18 PM PDT
by
Xenalyte
(I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
To: tuna_battle_slight_return
Of course she knows. At 10 or 11, I knew that I was heterosexual (attracted to girls). I agree --to a point. I do believe some people (mostly females) experiment with homosexuality because they think it is rebellious or will make them more attractive to boys. In college, we called these chicks "LTGs" or "Lesbians Till Graduation."
Others, however, are born that way. I remember a kid in the third grade. He had a lisp, played dolls with the girls at recess, avoided sports, and generally acted "girly". He wasn't unpopular but we all knew then he was gay.
Well, at my ten-year high school reunion a few years ago, so-and-so shows up and guess what? He's gay. Not a sole was surprised.
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posted on
06/19/2003 2:41:22 PM PDT
by
Drew68
To: Xthe17th
Or these kind.
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posted on
06/19/2003 2:44:25 PM PDT
by
Xenalyte
(I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
To: Sweet_Sunflower29
"If she had worn a 'Barbie Supports the Troops in the War in Iraq' T-shirt, she would have been called a patriot."There's a difference between "Barbie supports the troops" and "Barbie spanks Skipper".
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posted on
06/19/2003 2:45:59 PM PDT
by
Redcloak
(All work and no FReep makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no FReep make s Jack a dul boy. Allwork an)
To: week 71
However it vital students learn to go through this world where people disagree with them. That's the kind of stuff they can learn outside of school. Contrary to growing popular belief, the school's primary mission is not to serve as a social training ground.
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posted on
06/19/2003 2:46:30 PM PDT
by
newgeezer
(Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary. You have the right to be wrong.)
To: theFIRMbss
Maybe the kid has a point.
To: newgeezer
That's the kind of stuff they can learn outside of school. Contrary to growing popular belief, the school's primary mission is not to serve as a social training ground. Good point. However stand by my claim. cheers
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posted on
06/19/2003 2:49:18 PM PDT
by
week 71
To: Drew68
Not a sole was surprisedSpeaking of loafers...
To: T Minus Four
Speaking of loafers... I knew that spelling didn't look right! :)
Not a sole was surprised
SOULSOULSOULSOUL!!!! There, I got it now!
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posted on
06/19/2003 3:01:41 PM PDT
by
Drew68
To: Thud
To: Drew68
:-)
To: Xenalyte
A well-reared 14-year-old shouldn't be openly anything Agreed. Kids are supposed to be in school to be educated. There is a dress code and I don't think anybody's sexual orientation, or political/religious affiliations belong plastered on their chests. At 14, my kid wore cute skirts and dresses to school...her choice. Some wore tee shirts and jeans, but even in her NYC private school, rules had to be followed.
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posted on
06/19/2003 3:16:42 PM PDT
by
stanz
(Those who don't believe in evolution should go jump off the flat edge of the Earth.)
To: Sweet_Sunflower29
Dear lord, every time some brats in school don't agree with school rules mom and dad get a lawyer to waste money and time. What is going to happen when these brats grow to be adults and keep breaking rules and laws? Mom and dad are not going to be around for ever. Bring back uniforms!!
To: T Minus Four
Can't see the tatooes or body paint for all the clothes. My daughter's artwork added rather conspicuous tatooes and body paint. It was eye-scorching.
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posted on
06/19/2003 3:30:48 PM PDT
by
Thud
To: PALACE ATHENA
Not uniforms, but a strict dress code, such as button down shirts, no writing on them.
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