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1 posted on 06/11/2003 2:18:55 AM PDT by kattracks
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The lunatics do indeed run the asylum.
2 posted on 06/11/2003 2:27:26 AM PDT by Smile-n-Win (The EU will break up any day, but the USA is here to stay!)
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In other words if you don't like the fact that you are mentally ill you can protest the APA (homosexuality 1973) and have it taken off.

That doesn't mean that they are not mentally ill. Homosexuals are still mentally ill.
3 posted on 06/11/2003 2:28:08 AM PDT by kuma
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Isn't this argument exactly what Rick Santorum anticipated?
7 posted on 06/11/2003 2:41:15 AM PDT by TN4Liberty
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Chickenhawks need love too. Then killing.
8 posted on 06/11/2003 2:41:40 AM PDT by SevenDaysInMay
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Again, we don't for the most part blame someone these days for their alcoholism; we don't see it simply as a moral weakness," he added.

"We do believe that these people have a disease or a disorder, but we also recognize that in having it that it impairs their function, that it causes them suffering that they need to turn for help," Berlin said.

This guy is still a do-gooder, but at least he recognizes the fact that "doing good" does not necessarily have to entail helping bad people violate others' rights.

9 posted on 06/11/2003 2:48:09 AM PDT by Smile-n-Win (The EU will break up any day, but the USA is here to stay!)
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Does this come as a great surprise to anyone? As soon as we started seeing NAMBLA being defended as a legitimate organization, the handwriting was on the wall. What's next, proclaiming that children really have no rights because they are net yet deemed to be persons before the age of consent? We'd better beware the fate of Sodom.

" It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones." (Luke 17:2)

"Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven." (Matthew 18:10)

11 posted on 06/11/2003 2:59:34 AM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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"Psychiatrists attending an annual APA convention May 19 in San Francisco proposed removing several long-recognized categories of mental illness - including pedophilia, exhibitionism, fetishism, transvestism, voyeurism and sadomasochism - from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM)."

And the trend continues to make all those exhibiting abhorrent mental disorders as normal.

The quality of life slides deeper into the mire.

Common cents? [sense] Why it's a penny, of course.

12 posted on 06/11/2003 3:16:05 AM PDT by G.Mason (Lessons of life need not be fatal)
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Psychiatry is not a science, it's an agenda
13 posted on 06/11/2003 3:20:29 AM PDT by mict42
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Psychiatrists attending an annual APA convention May 19 in San Francisco

Wonder how they picked that city.

15 posted on 06/11/2003 3:46:40 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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"And other psychiatrists have written, again in scientific journals, that if children can be forced to go to church, why should 'consent' be the defining moral issue when it comes to sex?" she said.

Satan is at work in these people. This is outrageous.

18 posted on 06/11/2003 4:08:25 AM PDT by gcraig
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Every last one of these f***ing nutcases should be locked in a crazy ward.
19 posted on 06/11/2003 4:09:39 AM PDT by Lazamataz (POLICE TAGLINE DO NOT CROSS POLICE TAGLINE DO NOT CROSS POLICE TAGLINE DO NOT CROSS POLICE TAGLINE D)
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yes, Let's change the definitions of "normal" behavior. Then we can all be part of a "if it feels good do it society"! The truly sick people are in charge in the mental ward!!!!
21 posted on 06/11/2003 4:16:30 AM PDT by D. Miles
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Someone can't understand whether they're a boy or a girl, and that's NOT abnormal?
22 posted on 06/11/2003 4:20:04 AM PDT by jimt
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While obviously "normalizing" pedophilia is crazy (no pun intended), would removing it from the DSM-IV actually help court cases against pedophiles? It would still be illegal, and this could remove the mental-illness defense.

Burgulary is illegal and socially condemned. but a taste for it is not listed as a mental illness and can't be used for defense (though they certainly try a bunch of other avenues).

Just a thought,
LQ
23 posted on 06/11/2003 4:20:53 AM PDT by LizardQueen
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Homosexual activists have long argued that gender identity disorder should not be assumed to be abnormal.

My nomination for the Most Conflicted Statement of the year. Wonder what the reaction of any of these Honorable Doctors would be if they barged in and found "Uncle" Ben diddling their little boy, or little girl?

31 posted on 06/11/2003 4:30:45 AM PDT by William Terrell (People can exist without government but government can't exist without people)
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An alternative title for this article could be, "Psychiatric Association Vastly Overrates Its Importance in Determining Criminal Behavior" Like anyone other them them thinks that they define normalcy.
40 posted on 06/11/2003 4:37:59 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
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"And other psychiatrists have written, again in scientific journals, that if children can be forced to go to church, why should 'consent' be the defining moral issue when it comes to sex?" she said.

OMG.

"And other psychiatrists have written, again in scientific journals, that if children can be forced to go to school, why should 'consent' be the defining moral issue when it comes to sex?" she said.

"And other psychiatrists have written, again in scientific journals, that if children can be forced to take a bath, why should 'consent' be the defining moral issue when it comes to sex?" she said.

"And other psychiatrists have written, again in scientific journals, that if children can be forced to clean their rooms, why should 'consent' be the defining moral issue when it comes to sex?" she said.

Those "other psychiatrists" need to be taken out back and whipped until they lose the moral relativism. And the religious bigotry, while we're at it.

48 posted on 06/11/2003 5:06:24 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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a condition in which a person feels discomfort with his or her biological sex... Homosexual activists have long argued that gender identity disorder should not be assumed to be abnormal.

Huh... Well when I feel discomfort about something, when I am physically troubled by something, like that Stoli and cheap bean burritos I had last night, I think you could pretty safely classify that as a disorder. Of the intestines in my case. Disorder, nonetheless.

psychiatrists have argued that there is little or no proof that sex with adults is necessarily harmful to minors. Indeed, they have argued that many sexually molested children later look back on their experience as positive

WTF? Those are some "learned journal articles" that I would like to see.

other psychiatrists have written, again in scientific journals

Ooooooo... I'm all IMPRESSED.

Any yahoo can write up anything s/he wants in a "scientific" journal. And: some journals are more scientific than others.

50 posted on 06/11/2003 5:18:25 AM PDT by maxwell (Well I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation...)
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To: kattracks
The slippery slope at work.
51 posted on 06/11/2003 5:21:29 AM PDT by Kuksool
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People whose sexual interests are atypical, culturally forbidden or religiously proscribed should not necessarily be labeled mentally ill, they argued.

This is why I fight the tide and always will.

52 posted on 06/11/2003 5:21:52 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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