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The Guardian Pulls a "Dowd" - Falsely Attributes War for Oil Claim to Wolfowitz w/ Misquote
6 June 2003

Posted on 06/04/2003 2:55:40 PM PDT by Stultis

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1 posted on 06/04/2003 2:55:40 PM PDT by Stultis
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To: Stultis
al-Guradian is a joke.

What can you say of a paper that employs Robert Fisk?
2 posted on 06/04/2003 2:58:38 PM PDT by adam_az
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To: Stultis
Contact info for The Guardian

http://www.guardian.co.uk/gu_contacts/0,5816,180767,00.html

Letters to the editor
Letters for publication should be sent to: letters@guardian.co.uk

The Guardian's readers' editor
It is the policy of the Guardian to correct errors as soon as possible, and the paper has appointed a Readers' Editor as its independent internal ombudsman to deal with questions and complaints from readers. The Guardian also has an external Ombudsman to represent the interests of readers where the Readers' Editor is unable to resolve a problem to the satisfaction of all parties.

For more information contact the Readers' Editor:
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reader@guardian.co.uk


3 posted on 06/04/2003 2:58:49 PM PDT by Stultis
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To: Stultis; generalissimoduane; hchutch; Grampa Dave; Miss Marple; Dog Gone
Good catch!
4 posted on 06/04/2003 3:01:10 PM PDT by Dog
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To: Dog
Good catch!

Credit actually goes to various freepers on the other thread.

5 posted on 06/04/2003 3:03:17 PM PDT by Stultis
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To: Stultis
But you put it all together.
6 posted on 06/04/2003 3:04:07 PM PDT by Dog
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To: adam_az
They've got no sense of smell?

Seriously though - there seems to be a full court press to destroy Wolfowitz. I hope it doesn't work, but I'm not confident.

7 posted on 06/04/2003 3:05:19 PM PDT by stop_fascism
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To: Stultis
This is no vanity. This is a Free Republic scoop! It demonstrates precisely one of the whole reasons that Free Republic was invented and why we post and dissect articles from various media.

You rock!!! The Guardian gets discredited ala. NY Times.

8 posted on 06/04/2003 3:06:11 PM PDT by Spiff (Liberalism is a mental illness - a precursor to death by Socialism.)
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To: Stultis
reported today by German newspapers Der Tagesspiegel and Die Welt

This will now be accepted as fact by every German-speaking person in Europe. Protestations to the opposite will require tons of proof and still won't be believed. Such is how it is these days...

9 posted on 06/04/2003 3:09:24 PM PDT by Citizen of the Savage Nation
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To: adam_az
al-Guradian . . .lol . . I like that !
10 posted on 06/04/2003 3:10:28 PM PDT by ChadGore (Piss off a liberal: HIRE SOMEONE !)
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To: Stultis
Forward this (do it yourself so you get the credit) to Fox News immediately!!!
11 posted on 06/04/2003 3:11:15 PM PDT by kevkrom (Dump the income tax -- support an NRST!)
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To: Stultis
Very nice job. Don't forget, the Dowd misquote was first caught on Free Republic too.
12 posted on 06/04/2003 3:12:38 PM PDT by TomB
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To: Stultis
For the German readers, al-Guardian's sources:

Der Tagesspiegel

Wolfowitz nennt Öl als Irak-Kriegsgrund US-Kongress soll untersuchen

Washington (Tsp/dpa). Der US-Kongress will klären, ob die Bush-Regierung die Gefahr durch irakische Massenvernichtungswaffen übertrieben hat. Der republikanische Senator John Warner sagte, die Glaubwürdigkeit von Präsident Bush, Außenminister Powell, Verteidigungsminister Rumsfeld und CIA-Direktor Tenet werde in Zweifel gezogen. Unterdessen erweiterte Vize-Verteidigungsminister Paul Wolfowitz sein Eingeständnis, dass Massenvernichtungswaffen nicht der eigentliche Kriegsgrund waren. Auf die Frage, warum man Nordkorea anders behandle als den Irak, sagte er in Singapur laut "Welt": "Der wichtigste Unterschied ist, dass wir wirtschaftlich einfach keine Wahl im Irak hatten. Das Land schwimmt auf einem Meer von Öl."

Die Welt

Im Fall Nordkorea setzt Wolfowitz auf die Anrainer

Auf die Frage, warum eine Atommacht wie Nordkorea anders behandelt würde als der Irak, wo kaum Massenvernichtungswaffen gefunden worden seien, antwortete der stellvertretende Verteidigungsminister wieder sehr offen: "Betrachten wir es einmal ganz simpel. Der wichtigste Unterschied zwischen Nordkorea und dem Irak ist der, dass wir wirtschaftlich einfach keine Wahl im Irak hatten. Das Land schwimmt auf einem Meer von Öl."


13 posted on 06/04/2003 3:16:12 PM PDT by Stultis
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To: Stultis; Michael81Dus
Michael, important PING to you!
14 posted on 06/04/2003 3:20:26 PM PDT by optimistically_conservative
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To: Stultis
Direct link to The Guardian story:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,970331,00.html

15 posted on 06/04/2003 3:20:44 PM PDT by Stultis
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To: Howlin
Could you ping your list to this thread..
16 posted on 06/04/2003 3:21:31 PM PDT by Dog
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To: adam_az
Fisk is at al-Independent, I think, not al-Guardian.
17 posted on 06/04/2003 3:21:47 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: Stultis
Excellent work.
18 posted on 06/04/2003 3:22:28 PM PDT by kesg
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To: MadIvan
Ping!
19 posted on 06/04/2003 3:22:34 PM PDT by Dog
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To: All
On another thread, someone posted the same exact phrase used in a original language paper; I think the guardian just picked up that quote and went with it.

However, we should write them for so sloppily translating "swimming" vs. "floating" is a big deal when it comes to the vital matter of accurate quoting! They were lazy.

And their interpretation of the quote is WILLFULLY dishonest.
20 posted on 06/04/2003 3:24:12 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (Blessed be the Lord, the God of Israel!)
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